i have been thinking hard latley about the gravity probe B findings that space/time is warped by the mass of the earth.
NASA source grav probe B
"Imagine the Earth as if it were immersed in honey. As the planet rotates, the honey around it would swirl, and it's the same with space and
time," said Francis Everitt, GP-B principal investigator at Stanford University. "GP-B confirmed two of the most profound predictions of Einstein's
universe, having far-reaching implications across astrophysics research. Likewise, the decades of technological innovation behind the mission will
have a lasting legacy on Earth and in space."
grav probe B
this experiment has confirmed that mass is warping space time around the earth.
i do not pretend to be able to contradict the findings from gravity probe B
i would like to offer a different interpretation of why the results were found to corrilate with einstiens theory of warped space time while
conforming to the "results" of the experiment
here is an explination for einsteins warped space time for comparison
einsteins warped space time explained
first of all i will introduce a theory on warping of space time around a black hole as the effects are heightened because of the great mass involved
in two black holes colliding
tendex and vortex helps visualize space time warping
first this is a visualization tool to help understand the forces involved in the warping of space time with two black holes colliding so it is not a
direct comparison to the warping of space around earth,
this just provides the basis of the argument that space time acts like a liquid, or super liquid with hydro-dynamic proerties.
“Though we’ve developed these tools for black-hole collisions, they can be applied wherever space-time is warped,” says Dr. Geoffrey
Lovelace, a member of the team from Cornell. “For instance, I expect that people will apply vortex and tendex lines to cosmology, to black holes
ripping stars apart, and to the singularities that live inside black holes. They’ll become standard tools throughout general relativity.”
The researchers say the tendex and vortex lines provide a powerful new way to understand the nature of the universe. “Using these tools, we can now
make much better sense of the tremendous amount of data that’s produced in our computer simulations,” says Dr. Mark Scheel, a senior researcher at
Caltech and leader of the team’s simulation work.
the heliospherical bubble is a bubble in the density of space,
The Local Bubble is a cavity in the interstellar medium (ISM) of the Orion Arm of the Milky Way. It is at least 300 light years across and has a
neutral hydrogen density of about 0.05 atoms per cubic centimetre, or approximately one tenth of the average for the ISM in the Milky Way (0.5
atoms/cc), and half that for the "Local Fluff", or Local Interstellar Cloud (0.1 atoms/cc). The hot diffuse gas in the Local Bubble emits
so the space inside our solar system is by definition either more or less dense than the sourounding interstella medium (the stuff outside the
and in this interpretation we are going to asume that the medium inside bubble is less dense than the surounding
interstella medium. the relitive density of our "bubble" from the inside is still to be considered a "liquid" but many times less viscous
Viscosity is a measure of the resistance of a fluid which is being deformed by either shear stress or tensile stress. In everyday terms (and for
fluids only), viscosity is "thickness" or "internal friction". Thus, water is "thin", having a lower viscosity, while honey is "thick", having a
higher viscosity. Put simply, the less viscous the fluid is, the greater its ease of movement (fluidity).
in the "less viscous" bubble our solar system, the effects of rotation of mass in this "density liquid" or space is reduced, as the sheer forces and
tensile forces can effect on the "liquidity" of the density we call "empty space" like a less viscous material can be induced to rotate with less
energy input into the lower viscosity of the medium.
ie in a less dense or less vicous medium the mass has more ability "stir" the liquidity of the medium density.
stiring water over stirring honey.
so smaller mass has a larger effect on the "liquid density" of a less viscous medium.
what happens when we use the same model out side the "local bubble" or helio bubble we are in?
the "liquid density" or viscosity outside the "local bubble" is greatly increased (think honey).
to stir the more viscous (thicker liquid) a higher "amount" of energy is required to move the same volume of "liquid" space because it is thicker
this means if the earth was in the thicker medium outside our bubble, this would "warp or twist the liquid that is more dense (space time)
so using space as a density liquid we would find that the warping of space time would be dependant on the "density" or viscosity of the medium that
was being warped.
and the amount of warping of the viscous liquid would be decreased as the viscosity was increased.
using the viscous "liquid" space time you would find that the gravity equations for our solar system would be incorrect for mass outside our bubble,
as density increases, the effects of space time warping or the sheer forces would "stir" the "liquid density" "less" for the same amount of energy in
the new density thickness.
in this way the forces of warping space time would depend on the density of the space time in the form of a viscous liquid to determine acual warpage
now lets look at the "supermassive" black hole at the center of the galaxy,
the liquidity or viscosity of the medium in the galaxy is "thicker" (think honey over water)
the effect of space time warping is now going to cost more to achive the same "warping" effects we encounter in our own less dense medium inside our
this also has the effect of imparting more energy through the denser liquid and the bubbles (helio-bubbles) that contain stars.
as the density is thicker in the galaxy, objects or stars will be "drawn" to move "with" the thicker density medium "galactic liquidity"
proportionally more energy is required to "stir" the thicker "liquid" and more energy is required to "resist" the motion of the stired liquid.
so the star bubbles are now "stationary" in a moving "liquid density" and as F=MA the force is acually the movement of the density "between" the
as the thick density "warps" or is stirred into motion by the huge rotational forces of the super massive black hole, the density liquidity "imparts"
rotational force into the star bubbles because the thickness of the medium they are in is rotatating and this is a force outside of gravity.
stir a cup of coffie
drop a floating object (small) on the surface of the liquid
notice that gravity is not causing the object to rotate in the liquid
the viscosity of the liquid and its rotational force is causing the floating object
to asume the rotation of the liquid
space is like the surface tension of the liquid it is a viscous liquid that is moving and the "floating" oject is like the lighter density inside the
the bubble cannot resist the moving density (thickness) and because it is less dense the amount of force required to induce movement in it is "less"
than the moving medium
so is space just differnt desity "liquids" inside and outside the bubble?
and does this explain why the gravity inside the bubble does not equate to the "gravity" we see in the galaxy?
things to think about
can the warping (ripples on the surface tension of a "liquid") describe how come some stars move toward the galactic center while some stars move away
from the galactic center?
imagine that the star bubble is inducing movement from the "galactic liquid" where the warping or twisting of space time (think stirred coffie) creats
"creases" in the surface tension of the density,
the bubble "falls into the crease" and is drawn towards the center of the vortex created by the stiring action.
if the bubble is on the backside of the crease it rises away from the crease and is drawn away from the galactic center.
so as the "crease" or spiral arm approches a star bubble (energy is induced from the movement) so the creases move faster than the star can, it is
"falling" into the crease and induced into the center.
as the crease moves past the position of the star bubble (center of mass) it then "rises" up and falls over the "hump" that folows the crease (high
spot) and "falls" down the other side of the "hump" and is drawn outwards.
so could the differnt medium densities or liquidities explain the differnt effects of gravity we see?
hydrodynamics of fluid dynamics
In physics, fluid dynamics is a sub-discipline of fluid mechanics that deals with fluid flow—the natural science of fluids (liquids and gases)
in motion. It has several subdisciplines itself, including aerodynamics (the study of air and other gases in motion) and hydrodynamics (the study of
liquids in motion). Fluid dynamics has a wide range of applications, including calculating forces and moments on aircraft, determining the mass flow
rate of petroleum through pipelines, predicting weather patterns, understanding nebulae in interstellar space and reportedly modeling fission weapon
detonation. Some of its principles are even used in traffic engineering, where traffic is treated as a continuous fluid.
then we also have an effect called the venturi effect that as the liquidity moves "faster" than the spherical star bubbles the bubbles are "drawn"
The Venturi effect is the reduction in fluid pressure that results when a fluid flows through a constricted section of pipe. The Venturi effect is
named after Giovanni Battista Venturi (1746–1822), an Italian physicist.
as the surface tesion "liquidity" moves between two star bubbles creates a constriction to flow or restriction in viscous terms and the low pressure
area created between the star bubbles "draws them together.
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warped space time
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