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posted on May, 31 2011 @ 06:34 PM
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It has been the age-old intention of Zionism to intentionally stir up anti-Semitism anywhere possible, and even more commonly, to take advantage of any Jewish suffering anywhere in order to enhance its cause Indeed, hatred of Jews and Jewish suffering is the oxygen of the Zionist movement, and from the very beginning has been to deliberately incite hatred of the Jew and then, in feigned horror, use it to justify the existence of the Zionist state – this is, of course, Machiavellianism raised to the highest degree. Thus, the Zionists thrive on hatred and suffering of Jews, and seek to benefit thereby through keeping Jews in perpetual fear, causing them to ignore the true nature of Zionism, and instead to consider the Zionist state is their salvation


as stated earlier Orthodox jews on Zionist say the same things about the zionist...now this is just one site of many.

You see for all the people whom are coming in and saying that this is a jew hate thing...I think it would be good to look up some of your own history...It might help in coming to some conclusions....Yes some of the comments are hateful and mis directed....but just to call someone a hater is not going to help is it.....

The depths of the Zionist movement are well embedded in the minds of many people...and it is purposeful and ordered.

So therefore you will get some people calling people jew haters right off as that would suit the purpose......
As for someone saying things like this is better than ATS.....I want to know why people think ATS is any different than any other CONSPIRACY website......is there a special test that i failed to take when i signed up as a member.

when people speak out about Zionism it always becomes about a Jewish thing....and i do myself disagree with the OP on their approach and il informed use the term Jewish control.....

It shows that they don't actually know the difference between a orthodox Jew and a Zionist and the difference in the movements of both situations.


As far as Zionism is concerned, the founder of Zionism and apostate, Theodor Herzl, sought to intensify hatred of the Jew in order to enhance the cause of political Zionism. Here are some of his “pearls”:

“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16)

Additional words from the vivid imagination of this dreamer, from p. 68 of Part I of his Diary.

So anti-Semitism, which is a deeply imbedded force in the subconscious mind of the masses, will not harm the Jews. I actually find it to be advantageous to building the Jewish character, education by the masses that will lead to assimilation. This education can only happen through suffering, and the Jews will adapt.


the words of a true Zionist visionary....are they not interesting to say the least.



now this is not to say things are not as they seem....you have religious movements and you have political movements...the Zionist movement is a political movement that is pushing forward on the backs of the persecuted Jews of the halocaust.

This is not about the Jewish people as the the jewish people exsisted since biblical times and they are still exsisting to this day....but the Zionist movement formed from a man whom had visions of grandeur and has used the movement to achieve their political means through a means of creating a illusion of persecution.

I am not saying that the jewish people did not suffer great attrocities....but some of these atrocities were done through a guise of poltical agandas aimed at achieving goals through a politcal movement called ZIONISM.

love life and live life with love

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posted on May, 31 2011 @ 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by AngryOne
The fact of the matter is that Jews indeed have an agenda, and the sooner gentiles wake up and realize this, the better.


The agenda is clear. The Jews want to entertain us. Here's a group of the most influential and recognizable Jews you've ever heard of. Household names. Wake up people! Whad-a-yah wise-guys? *Smack* *Poke* *Rips hair*

These Jews are here to entertain.

  • Moses Harry Horwitz (Moe)
  • Jerome Lester Horwitz (Curly)
  • Louis Feinberg (Larry)
  • Samuel Horwitz (Shemp)




  • posted on May, 31 2011 @ 06:38 PM
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    Israel spies on the USA more than any other country 1/2




    Israel spies on the USA more than any other country 2/2




    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 06:43 PM
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    I am still shocked that so many people on this thread are claiming that the statement "the Jews control hollywood" is anti-semitic.

    Let me get this straight...

    If I state the words "the Jews control Hollywood", then I am being racist against people who practice Judaism, a religion?

    That is some seriously convoluted logic.

    Semitic refers to a set of languages.
    It does not refer to the population of individuals who practice Judaism, which is a religion BTW.
    The only reason that people are under the impression that semitic is a reference to Jews is due to...

    Hmmm....
    The media repeating this lie over and over in books and on the telescreen.
    Who woulda thunk?

    Being a Jew does not equate belonging to a race. It means that someone belongs to a religion.
    The only reason that people are under the impression that Jew equals race is due to....

    Hmmmmmmmm.....
    The media reporting this lie over and over in books and on the telescreen.
    Who woulda thunk.

    Now, let us quote a columnist from the LA times and Time magazine.
    A certain columnist name Joel Stein...
    Who happens to be.... A Jew.

    Stein stated in his December 19, 2008 column for the LA Times that Americans who do not think that the Jews control Hollywood are just plain dumb. He then further states, with pride, that the Jews totally run Hollywood.

    Wow... Is this guy "anti-semitic" or simply one of those "self-hating Jews"?

    The title to this thread is "The Extent of Jewish Control" and it seems that when someone who practices Judaism brags about the amount of control that Israel, in particular, holds over American media and politics then it is celebrated, but when a "Goy" makes the same statement it is "racist".

    Racism toward a race that DOES NOT EVEN EXIST.

    This is not political theatre. This is truth.

    Who would thunk?



    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 06:43 PM
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    I can't believe this post is allowed here. First you present no research, and no facts beyond an old "article" (and I'm giving it credit) from a conspiracy site, and some wiki list, leaving us to some how magically deduce what it is you're thinking.

    Second, your complete and utter failure to provide anything at all beyond a rant, but in that rant to do nothing more than give your 2nd-hand/unoriginal opinion (noting that you provided zero research or original thought) to blast jews is just racist.

    Third, that you feel the need to expand on this by citing surnames, and again fail to make any point with it, instead leaving the reader to magically deduce what you're thinking.

    It's just pure racism. Truth, lies, it doesn't matter because you presented zero (that's 0, zip, nill) evidence, and thus it's pure racism.

    I can't even empathize with your apparent frustration simply because you failed to articulate even that. Jews have an agenda? Really. Ok, prove it.

    Listen, you feel frustrated because you allow yourself to be frustrated. You allow people to tell you that you can't speak out against something, or (what I suspect having read this hate filled manifesto) is that you have an inability to properly communicate your point with potentially interested parties, especially offline. But allowing yourself to succumb to such hatred on ATS seems pointless.

    Someone really should delete this thread.



    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 06:45 PM
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    Israeli Minister "We always use the anti-Semitism trick or bring up the Holocaust"




    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 06:46 PM
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    I can't believe your comment is allowed on here.

    You present no evidence in your criticism other your anecdotal beliefs and values.

    This site relies on valid information to refute invalid information.

    Not personal attacks and appeals to emotion, which are logical fallacies.

    You are frustrated because you allow yourself to be frustrated.

    Someone should delete your post.
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    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 06:49 PM
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    You are doing it again. Referring back to the fairytale. I'm sure it means alot to you, you must have been beaten over the head with it from an early age. It means absolutely nothing to me. How about I ask you to refer to The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? - Do you see my point yet? Your beliefs are your own, and they ONLY mean something to you. Do not try to push them on to anyone else. BTW you are showing your ignorance by claiming that Jews are responsible for the birth of this nation. Do you remember WW2? Yes, your welcome. Or , to be more accurate, thank my Grandfather.



    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 07:01 PM
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    Would just like to say thanks for bringing some logic back into the fold of this thread.

    it is interesting though soon as a thread that mentions Jew in the title it gets attacked as being Anti-Semitic....

    This site is not only about conspiracy ....it helps with people to learn and understand the goings on in the world as a whole.

    now The Zionist conspiracy is a biggy and it deserves a platform where it can be discussed as it has been so taboo that people would be fearful of broaching the subject....

    Thanks to the internet you can broach the subject openly and without fear of repreccussion for stating an opinion....whether it is agreeable or not.

    The Zionist movement has a huge influence on the global stage as it stands, and dicussing it openly will help people to understand the difference and who is behind such movements so people can make informed decisions about how they react when societies collapse and whom they might tend to side with when the world goes through the upheavel that is befalling us all....and if knowing whom may be behind what is being put out in the media helps with this understanding then it should be discussed.

    ATS provides a good platform for such discussions and should be apllauded for a NON biased approach to all subjects wheter they are not to everybodies taste or not.

    Edit: a reply to josephus23
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    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 07:04 PM
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    I've heard people say that the jews control the media but I don't really believe it. I don't understand why they would even want to control the media. Sure all that goes on in the news are lies but I find it hard to believe that a cabal of jews controls the media. If you ask me this seems a little bit anti-semetic don't you think. This is how the holocaust started man.



    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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    I`m watching this now pretty good so far



    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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    What are you talking about, how to a call a book a fairytale if you never read it?? That sounds like ignorance. If you criticize, know what you are criticizing about. And the Constitution of America, you know the one the my forefathers made, were based on the laws and freedoms of the Torah. This fairytale of a book that you compare to a Spaghetti monster book made you free my friend. So please give respect to people beliefs, do you see me here criticizing on what you believe or not believe, NO. Im just here to straiten out a few things from what the Torah says and what Observant Jews Believe in. Im not pushing anything on you, Either way your living in a religious land based on the Torah, if you compare it to an Spaghetti Monster book go live somewhere where the Torah has no influence on.



    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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    Close but no prize, The earth is controled, not by Jews, but by Idioits. Mankind has taken every opportunity offered to him and has managed to screw it up or destroy it all together. Wars, starvation, cruelty, all mans creations. Murder, child abuse, bad water and pollution, man. Man who as a group is too moronic to tie his collective shoe. It is not a Jew, a Pollock, or any race or Nationality it is idioits, idioits who take every creative thought and warp it to ts lowest common denomentor. Idioits who turn the power of the atom into bombs, who make God an excuse for revenge, and the internet in to a giant porn site. Idioits like you that outnumber the rest of us fifty to one...



    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 07:20 PM
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    Thank you my friend. I agree with your comments as well, 100%.

    If I had a nickel for every time that I have linked Jews against Zionism to a thread here at ATS, then I would have a lot of nickels.

    Unfortunately, the word "Jew" evokes a fearful learned reaction.
    And what makes this even more sad is that people who actually practice Judaism according to the Torah completely disagree with the behavior of the current cabal of people who have control of the holy land.
    Israel, of who I have a rather large distaste.

    So few people realize that the Zionists were, and still are, financed by the Rothschilds.
    The founding document of Israel, the Balfour Declaration, was simply a letter written by British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour to Walter Rothschild informing him that Britain planned to honor the gentleman's agreement with the British Zionists to establish a Jewish-Zionist homeland in Palestine upon dividing the spoils gained during WW2.

    Until this time, the Jews, Christians and Muslims lived peacefully while sharing the holy land.
    All under the watchful eye of the Ottoman turks.

    But put some Zionists in control of it and.... presto, whammo...

    We have a fight on our hands that will not stop.

    You post well on this topic and that is a good thing.

    I have seen people receive permanent bans on this topic and I have, myself, been temporarily post banned when disscussing Zionism.

    Keep up the quality posts. Level heads will always prevail.

    Cheers.

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    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 07:21 PM
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    "The Jews Are So Bad"...again?..c'mon folks



    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 07:23 PM
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    Jim Traficant talks about Jewish control of America




    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 07:25 PM
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    An interesting thread and Im glad to learn about the zionist gang. To be honest we should pity these jews, because they are being used and abused by the zionists. Now I know why they are always crying the poor tale and woe unto us. But they have been slung out of many countrys, way before the zio tribe started. So there still must be a reason for that happening. Why dont they seem to fit in? hmmm Maybe its the calling people untermensh eh I mean goy...



    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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    Originally posted by MissingRonnieR
    Close but no prize, The earth is controled, not by Jews, but by Idioits. Mankind has taken every opportunity offered to him and has managed to screw it up or destroy it all together. Wars, starvation, cruelty, all mans creations. Murder, child abuse, bad water and pollution, man. Man who as a group is too moronic to tie his collective shoe. It is not a Jew, a Pollock, or any race or Nationality it is idioits, idioits who take every creative thought and warp it to ts lowest common denomentor. Idioits who turn the power of the atom into bombs, who make God an excuse for revenge, and the internet in to a giant porn site. Idioits like you that outnumber the rest of us fifty to one...


    You assert that you are not an idiot, yet you can't even spell the word.



    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 07:36 PM
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    You can say this is not anti jewish thread. But it dosent do a thing to solve anything and all you are trying to do is cause chaos. Dont you think everyone who knows about consperacys knows this. You're argument is no better than any other anti jewish argument out there. Has it ever been apparent that the jews are not the only elites in control. You're argument tries to portray this world as been in full control of everything. The Christian and Muslims also also manipulate and are full of greed. The jews are just part a society of elites who when the world looks to someone to blame for the harm the elites cause on the world. They can say it was the Jews. Soo you are falling for the same old trap as Adolf did. How about instead of blaming a group. Try help others and yourself and become a better person. I know that the world is not fair. But this kind of threads dont help.



    posted on May, 31 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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    And may I ask why it matters? Also they don't have total control. The protestants still own ABC and Fox, and the catholics and atheists, ironically, basically own PBS.

    But I diverge. Why should I care that a group of people own a block in some locale? The Democrats own the Senate, the Republicans own the house. The gays own San Fransisco, the Irish and Italians own New York, the Muslims own various little chunks of here and there, the Mexicans own the drug market, the Canadians own a large amount of media shares, the atheists own CNN, the Jews and Catholics own Comedy Central. I can go on. Things seem to be half way decent, so why should I care?






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