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posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 05:11 AM
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It is interesting that the current and the former Federal Reserve chairmans are Jewish. Though the current President of the World Bank is not Jewish the two before him were. The acting managing director of the IMF is Jewish as was his predecessor D. Strauss-Kahn. I wonder if the "Holocaust" was perpetuated to put a protective blanket over the Jews so not to draw criticism upon them. Perhaps the Jews are a front for the real power elite. What are your thoughts?




posted on Jun, 19 2011 @ 07:38 AM
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I think theyreally do look out for "their kind",much like other races all do.You see this in American blacks in supervisory power who wont hire anyone but another black....the diff is that the blacks are hiring for McDonalds positions and the Jewish people are hiring for positions that require education and ability....but yes,they do look out for other Jews



posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 11:26 AM
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God bless all of the posters, including the original poster, for being so discerning. There is absolutely no doubt who is in control. One simply need to look at the dual citizens that make up the US government and its policies. There is no greater threat than the Zionist threat. Here is just a short list that is not even completely up to day of the egregious, treacherous behavior of Zionists towards the United States and the American people:


1947. Information collected by the ADL in its spy operations on US citizens is used by the House Select Committee on Unamerican Activities. Subcommittee Chair Clare Hoffman dismisses the ADL's reports on suspected communists as hearsay."

1950 John Davitt, former chief of the Justice Department's internal security section notes that the Israeli intelligence service is the second most active in the United States after the Soviets.

1954 A hidden microphone planted by the Israelis is discovered in the Office of the US Ambassador in Tel Aviv.

1956 Telephone taps are found connected to two telephones in the residence of the US military attach in Tel Aviv.

1954 "The Lavon Affair". Israeli agents recruit Egyptian citizens of Jewish descent to bomb Western targets in Egypt, and plant evidence to frame Arabs, in an apparent attempt to upset US-Egyptian relations. Israeli defense minister Pinchas Lavon is eventually removed from office, though many think real responsibility lay with David Ben-Gurion.

1965 Israel apparently illegally obtains enriched uranium from NUMEC Corporation. ( Washington Post, 6/5/86, Charles R. Babcock, "US an Intelligence Target of the Israelis, Officials Say.")

1967 Israel attacks the USS Liberty, an intelligence gathering vessel flying a US flag, killing 34 crew members. See "Assault on the Liberty," by James M. Ennes, Jr. (Random House). In 2004, Captain Ward Boston, Senior Legal Counsel for the Navy's Court of Inquiry into the attack swears under oath that President Lyndon Johnson ordered the investigation to conclude accident, even though the evidence indicates the attack was deliberate. Given the use by Israel of unmarked boats and planes, and the machine-gunning of USS Liberty's lifeboats, the most likely explanation is that USS Liberty was to be sunk with all hands, with evidence left to frame Egypt for the sinking. This would have dragged the US into the war on Israel's side.

1970 While working for Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson, Richard Perle is caught by the FBI giving classified information to Israel. Nothing is done.

1978, Stephen Bryen, then a Senate Foreign Relations Committee staffer, is overheard in a DC hotel offering confidential documents to top Israeli military officials. Bryen obtains a lawyer, Nathan Lewin, and the case heads for the grand jury, but is mysteriously dropped. Bryen later goes to work for Richard Perle.

1979 Shin Beth [the Israeli internal security agency] tries to penetrate the US Consulate General in Jerusalem through a "Honey Trap", using a clerical employee who was having an affair with a Jerusalem girl.

1985 The New York Times reports the FBI is aware of at least a dozen incidents in which American officials transferred classified information to the Israelis, quoting [former Assistant Director of the F.B.I.] Mr. [Raymond] Wannal. The Justice Department does not prosecute.

1985 Richard Smyth, the owner of MILCO, is indicted on charges of smuggling nuclear timing devices to Israel ( Washington Post, 10/31/86).

1987 April 24 Wall Street Journal headline: "Role of Israel in Iran-Contra Scandal Won't be Explored in Detail by Panels"

1992 The Wall Street Journal reports that Israeli agents apparently tried to steal Recon Optical Inc's top-secret airborne spy-camera system.

1992 Stephen Bryen, caught offering confidential documents to Israel in 1978, is serving on board of the pro-Israeli Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs while continuing as a paid consultant -- with security clearance -- on exports of sensitive US technology.

1992 "The Samson Option," by Seymour M. Hersh reports, illicitly obtained intelligence was flying so voluminously from LAKAM into Israeli intelligence that a special code name, JUMBO, was added to the security markings already on the documents. There were strict orders, Ari Ben-Menashe recalled: "Anything marked JUMBO was not supposed to be discussed with your American counterparts."

1993. The ADL is caught operating a massive spying operation on critics of Israel, Arab-Americans, the San Francisco Labor Council, ILWU Local 10, Oakland Educational Association, NAACP, Irish Northern Aid, International Indian Treaty Council, the Asian Law Caucus and the San Francisco police. Data collected was sent to Israel and in some cases to South Africa. Pressure from Jewish organizations forces the city to drop the criminal case, but the ADL settles a civil lawsuit for an undisclosed sum of cash.

1995 The Defense Investigative Service circulates a memo warning US military contractors that " Israel aggressively collects [ US] military and industrial technology." The report stated that Israel obtains information using "ethnic targeting, financial aggrandizement, and identification and exploitation of individual frailties" of US citizens.

1996 A General Accounting Office report "Defense Industrial Security: Weaknesses in US Security Arrangements With Foreign-Owned Defense Contractors" found that according to intelligence sources "Country A" (identified by intelligence sources as Israel, Washington Times, 2/22/96) "conducts the most aggressive espionage operation against the United States of any US ally." The Jerusalem Post (8/30/96) quoted the report, "Classified military information and sensitive military technologies are high-priority targets for the intelligence agencies of this country." The report described "An espionage operation run by the intelligence organization responsible for collecting scientific and technologic information for [ Israel] paid a US government employee to obtain US classified military intelligence documents." The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (Shawn L. Twing, April 1996) noted that this was "a reference to the 1985 arrest of Jonathan Pollard, a civilian US naval intelligence analyst who provided Israel's LAKAM [Office of Special Tasks] espionage agency an estimated 800,000 pages of classified US intelligence information."

The GAO report also noted that "Several citizens of [ Israel] were caught in the United States stealing sensitive technology used in manufacturing artillery gun tubes."

1996 An Office of Naval Intelligence document, "Worldwide Challenges to Naval Strike Warfare" reported that " US technology has been acquired [by China] through Israel in the form of the Lavi fighter and possibly SAM [surface-to-air] missile technology." Jane's Defense Weekly (2/28/96) noted that "until now, the intelligence community has not openly confirmed the transfer of US technology [via Israel] to China." The report noted that this "represents a dramatic step forward for Chinese military aviation." (Flight International, 3/13/96)

1997 An Army mechanical engineer, David A. Tenenbaum, "inadvertently" gives classified military information on missile systems and armored vehicles to Israeli officials (New York Times, 2/20/97).

1997 The Washington Post reports US intelligence has intercepted a conversation in which two Israeli officials had discussed the possibility of getting a confidential letter that then-Secretary of State Warren Christopher had written to Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat. One of the Israelis, identified only as Dov, had commented that they may get the letter from Mega, the code name for Israel's top agent inside the United States.

1997 US ambassador to Israel, Martin Indyk, complains privately to the Israeli government about heavy-handed surveillance by Israeli intelligence agents.

1997 Israeli agents place a tap on Monica Lewinsky's phone at the Watergate and record phone sex sessions between her and President Bill Clinton. The Ken Starr report confirms that Clinton warned Lewinsky their conversations were being taped and ended the affair. At the same time, the FBI's hunt forMega is called off.

2001 It is discovered that US drug agent's communications have been penetrated. Suspicion falls on two companies, AMDOCS and Comverse Infosys, both owned by Israelis. AMDOCS generates billing data for most US phone companies and is able to provide detailed logs of who is talking to whom. Comverse Infosys builds the tapping equipment used by law enforcement to eavesdrop on all American telephone calls, but suspicion forms that Comverse, which gets half of its research and development budget from the Israeli government, has built a back door into the system that is being exploited by Israeli intelligence and that the information gleaned on US drug interdiction efforts is finding its way to drug smugglers. The investigation by the FBI leads to the exposure of the largest foreign spy ring ever uncovered inside the United States, operated by Israel. Half of the suspected spies have been arrested when 9-11 happens. On 9-11, 5 Israelis are arrested for dancing and cheering while the World Trade Towers collapse. Supposedly employed by Urban Moving Systems, the Israelis are caught with multiple passports and a lot of cash. Two of them are later revealed to be Mossad. As witness reports track the activity of the Israelis, it emerges that they were seen at Liberty Park at the time of the first impact, suggesting a foreknowledge of what was to come. The Israelis are interrogated, and then eventually sent back to Israel. The owner of the moving company used as a cover by the Mossad agents abandons his business and flees to Israel. The United States Government then classifies all of the evidence related to the Israeli agents and their connections to 9-11. All of this is reported to the public via a four part story on Fox News by Carl Cameron. Pressure from Jewish groups, primarily AIPAC, forces Fox News to remove the story from their website. Two hours prior to the 9-11 attacks, Odigo, an Israeli company with offices just a few blocks from the World Trade Towers, receives an advance warning via the internet. The manager of the New York Office provides the FBI with the IP address of the sender of the message, but the FBI does not follow up.



www.whatreallyhappened.com...



2001 The FBI is investigating 5 Israeli moving companies as possible fronts for Israeli intelligence.

2001 JDL's Irv Rubin arrested for planning to bomb a US Congressman. He dies before he can be brought to trial.

2002 The DEA issues a report that Israeli spies, posing as art students, have been trying to penetrate US Government offices.

2002 police near the Whidbey Island Naval Air Station in southern Washington State stop a suspicious truck and detain two Israelis, one of whom is illegally in the United States. The two men were driving at high speed in a Ryder rental truck, which they claimed had been used to "deliver furniture." The next day, police discovered traces of TNT and RDX military-grade plastic explosives inside the passenger cabin and on the steering wheel of the vehicle. The FBI then announces that the tests that showed explosives were false positives by cigarette smoke, a claim test experts say is ridiculous. Based on an alibi provided by a woman, the case is closed and the Israelis are handed over to INS to be sent back to Israel. One week later, the woman who provided the alibi vanishes.

2003 The Police Chief of Cloudcroft stops a truck speeding through a school zone. The drivers turn out to be Israelis with expired passports. Claiming to be movers, the truck contains junk furniture and several boxes. The Israelis are handed over to immigration. The contents of the boxers are not revealed to the public.

2003 Israel deploys assassination squads into other countries, including the United States. The US Government does not protest.

2004 Police near the Nuclear Fuel Services plant in Tennessee stop a truck after a three mile chase, during which the driver throws a bottle containing a strange liquid from the cab. The drivers turn out to be Israelis using fake Ids. The FBI refuses to investigate and the Israelis are released.

2004 Two Israelis try to enter Kings Bay Naval Submarine Base, home to eight Trident submarines. The truck tests positive for explosives.



NEVER FORGET THE USS LIBERTY!!!


God bless America!

God bless humanity!!!


Never forget the 5 dancing Israeli's across the river on September 11 who cheered when someone's father fell 80 stories to his death. When someone's mother was engulfed in flames an excruciatingly burned alive, they were "high-fiving" each other. Do not give that erroneous antisemitism garbage. There is nothing politically correct about the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians. There is nothing racist about being against the enslavement of humanity and recognizing the indidivuals doing it ARE racist and are part of the same group. It is completely wrong for any group to be doing this. It would be the same if it was the Sri Lankans were the ones who controlled the media and all finances and started wars for its own benefit. Stop being so deathly afraid of being a labeled a racist! They call Rachel Corrie a racist!! You know your heart! They engineered this whole political correct movement to silence critics. Do not give in to it. Put your trust is something higher. Do you think it is acceptable to sit back and watch egregious injustices occur without saying anything because what you say would falsely deemed by others to be a form or prejudice??? You know your heart. You are not a racist. It is your love for others that has brought you to this thread. There are some whbo are so indifferent that they would rather be watching an Adam Sandler move right now. You have truth on your side. People are dying right now!!!! Each ay more and more of our brave American men and women are being sent you in bodybags to fight wars against countries that never attacked us!!!Do you realize our country is spending millions upon millions of dollars a day in Libya??? Your family is one paycheck away from disaster. Why did we bomb Libya? I will give you a hint, the bombing started in the Jewish Day of Purim just like Iraq a few years earlier. Your government has been usurped by Satanic Zionists. Please wake up and spread the truth,
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posted on Jun, 20 2011 @ 12:00 PM
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Hey man! You are starting to see the truth. It is very depressing. The holocaust was exactly for this reason and others. Do not forget the Nazis were funded by AshkeNAZI Jews like Rothschild and Warburg. Theordore HErzl, prominent Zionist, wrote about the need for antisemitism to get Jews to Palestine. Research Herzl, the Balfour Declaration, and the Transfer Agreement to understand the real reason for World War I and World War II.

I am not sure why you think Zoellick is not Jewish, There have been some edits made to certain members like Zoellick and Geithner to say they are not Jewish. Zionist editors changed this info in Wikipedia, for example. The truth, however, is that the head of the World Bank is indeed Jewish.

Please continue with your studies, Do not take m word for anything say. Simply research yourself. We are currently involved in at least four military conflicts against Muslims countries. These countries never attacked the US. In fact, Israel is still the only middle-east government that has ever attacked us. Our heroes are dying not to protect the American people, but to increase the power of the satanic zionists.

The head of every major media corporation is a Khazar Jew. They make up .002% of the entire world population. Imagine the power of the media alone. Information is the greatest weapon. They have turned their enemies, Muslims, into out enemies. They are not the Israselites of the bible. They are Khazars who converted to hide behind Judaism in 740 AD. They adhere to the Satanic Talmud, which teaches it is their duty to cheat, rob, and steal from the goyim.

We are bombarded by films about the holocaust. No one knows about the Ukrainian holocaust that cost the lives of 10 million people. This was an ant-christian pogrom implemented by the Jewish Bolsheviks. There are hardly any museums for these victims. There are hardly any films. The jewish bolsheviks tore down the churches and left the synagogues untouched.

We are in trouble, friends. Ignorance is facilitating this egregious plot. They have published their goals. Look into the writings of Levy, for example. This will be a veritable hell for the rest of humanity. We must inform everyone in everyway possible. All is at stake...is everything!


USS Liberty
Lavon Affair
King David Hotel
Rachel Corrie
Samson Option
5 Dancing Israelis

God Bless America!

God Bless humanity!
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posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:20 AM
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Excellent info, Digginapony! I'm glad you found your way to this thread.

I'm trying hard to unravel things, I want to understand.

Yes, the Zionists Jews are immensely powerful, but not all Zionists are Jewish.

There's supposed to be a core group of European aristocrats (the Inner Court) among the Global Elite who make all the final decisions. Not all are Jewish. I believe the founder of the Bilderberg group was a Nazi.

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posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:27 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
Modern "Commercial Law"
is based on Ancient Babylonian Codes
A Historical Research Article Linking the "Slave-Trading Codes" of Ancient Babylon
to the Modern Laws of "Commerce", "Equity", and Civil/Municipal Jurisdictions.

www.biblebelievers.org.au...

very opinionated .... BUT?

is this what changed "ancient Judaism" ?

the ancient Merchant/Business elites at work ?

en.wikipedia.org...

www.christiananswers.net...

or was all this dreamed up by Roman "scholars" and entered into the (Vatican) historical records AFTER the Alexandria book burnings ?



Xuenchen, thanks for posting all of this research. Much of this info I've never read before. Fascinating info that changes the way we understand things.



posted on Jun, 21 2011 @ 02:35 AM
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Originally posted by CoRiBu
It is interesting that the current and the former Federal Reserve chairmans are Jewish. Though the current President of the World Bank is not Jewish the two before him were. The acting managing director of the IMF is Jewish as was his predecessor D. Strauss-Kahn. I wonder if the "Holocaust" was perpetuated to put a protective blanket over the Jews so not to draw criticism upon them. Perhaps the Jews are a front for the real power elite. What are your thoughts?


The Zionists have used (and continue to use) the Holocaust for their own purposes.

The first time I came across the idea that Zionist bankers helped finance Hitler I was so shocked, I couldn't quite believe it. But now I believe this is true.

I like to think, that the Zionists who helped Hitler did NOT know or understand to what extent he would take his hatred of Jews. After all, Hitler did not order his "Final Solution" until 1940.

The Zionists needed the persecution to prove that Jews would not be safe without their own nation.

TPTB are heartless when it comes to pressing forward with their plans. I think they were willing to "sacrifice" some of their own for a "greater goal." Did they know just how HUGE the toll would be?
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posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 12:11 AM
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Have you seen videos with David Irving? There is one called "The Holocaust Lie"? Have you read Professor Arthur Butz's book "The Hoax of the Twentieth Century"? I believe it is more important to look into epistemology in particular social epistemology. Why do people believe what they believe and how does group psychology affect those beliefs?



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 02:10 AM
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Originally posted by CoRiBu
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Have you seen videos with David Irving? There is one called "The Holocaust Lie"? Have you read Professor Arthur Butz's book "The Hoax of the Twentieth Century"? I believe it is more important to look into epistemology in particular social epistemology. Why do people believe what they believe and how does group psychology affect those beliefs?


Many years ago, I read a book written by David Irving on the Fire Bombing of Dresden. I know that David Irving is a 'Holocaust Revisionist." I am not. I believe the Holocaust really did happen, there's so much evidence.

I think the real figure of the number of Jews who perished in the Holocaust is somewhere around four million, instead of the usual six million figure used (based on outdated info).

I read something from a genuine Holocaust scholar who wrote that the original seven to six million figure was based on an estimate made on the number of Jews who perished at Auschwitz. The Death Camps in Poland were liberated by the Soviets. Westerners did not have easy access to the Auschwitz documents and the Soviets were not helpful during the Cold War. When the Iron Curtain fell, and Western scholars were allowed to review the Auschwitz documents, the figure was revised.

Originally, it was estimated that three million Jews died at Auschwitz alone. With new evidence, that figure has since been revised to about one million Jews murdered at Auschwitz.

To put this in some perspective, there were six Death Camps in Poland alone. There were many, many Nazi concentration camps, not only in Germany, but in other European countries. Many died enroute to the camps. And then there were the mobile Death Squads (Einsatzgruppen) that were sent in to exterminate entire Jewish ghettos in Eastern Europe. I'd say that four million dead Jews is a huge toll.

I'm not sure that the Zionist bankers who funded Hitler knew just how huge the sacrifice would be among their own people. But heck, they got their Israel, if you want to call that "success."
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posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 04:14 AM
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Yes, I agree. There were many deaths in the camps. Are you familiar with the Dayton-Stockton Professor of History, Emeritus, at Princeton named Arno J. Mayer? He wrote a book titled "Why Did The Heavens Not Darken?" in which he explains that the majority of deaths at the Auschwitz complex were the result of typhus. Have you watched David Cole's videos? I have also realized that individuals who present information may present some that is valid and some that is not all in the same breath. Dr. Norman Finkelstein wrote "The Holocaust Industry" in which his basic point is that many Jews who were not in Germany have a guilt complex which, in my opinion, leads to the generation of stories of survival. I say that the Holocaust did happen but not the way it is popularly portrayed. There are a lot of contradictions and unanswered questions, in my opinion. Thank you



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 05:19 AM
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Originally posted by MikeboydUS
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Instead there should be one called The Extent of Christian Control. Christians from the Pope, the POTUS, and to the Queen of England, etc. wield more power than any other single group of people on earth. The US, EU, Latin America, and Russia are all dominated by Christian majorities. The vast majority of their polticians and CEOs are Christian. No single religion or group of people has ever in history held the kind of power now held in the hands of Christian politicians and executives.

The question should then be: Is this a good or bad thing and why?


religeous, ethnic groups often have negative influence on History.

the power of christian political power in ancient Rome, in the 12th century(crusades), in the 15th(inquisition), the endless wars of religion in Europe(catholic/protestant).

the wars of conquest by the muslims.

and the destruction of all human culture that doesn't match the political aim and indoctrination of the the ascending group.(christians(European Imperialism), muslim, jews,taliban, etc.)

the Cuban community in Florida, that allows for the USA counter productive policy towards Cuba.
Guantanamo is still open 20 years after the cold war ended.

and our politicians' desire to cater to every group of voters they can get.

i am not anti semite, i have know wonderful people all my life that were jewish.
but then as humans, i tend to like everyone.
i have worked with people from every part of the world during my life, and while i liked the humans, i did not always agree with their politicians.

our politicians are scared of every potential group of voters out there.
this is not a jewish problem.

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posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 06:51 AM
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The people behind this control which you would need to be blind not to see as its so blatant today, are probably not the ordinary Jew, and also many of the so-called Zionists, who are still pawns, like Netanyahu. The ones who are at the real top of this schmutz are the Money-Changers.

These gits started off preying on the Jews at the time of the Temple. When you wanted to make your offering at the Temple you could only do it using a silver coin called a shekel which you could only purchase from them. The Shekel was used to buy membership of the Zionist movement but throughout history you can trace these men operating and the havoc they cause.

We know how the European Jews were sacrificed and their suffering manipulated by the Zionists so you can't totally include the ordinary Jew who has been used and abused by the Money-Changers. They are nothing more than a complacent human shield to prevent the identification of this group and the occasional beneficiaries of financial help for Israel;

If you look at the set-up today with Jewish satellites all around the world, working for world Jewry, who pulls their chains a select tiny group. These are still in charge of changing money, following the Talmud to its ultimate end which is world domination achievable via the debt deliberately organised through tools like the never audited Federal reserve and all other banks which create the coin of the realm in which they are situated.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 08:27 AM
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You are absolutely correct.

The "Money Changers" have been in power for many many 1000's of years.

Long before Rome and Babylon. In fact, they are the ones who started both, as they did with all "nations", "governments", and probably all religions !

The elite ruling class merchants (and / or commerce bankers) that go from one country to another did (and are doing) so for economic reasons. Financial infiltration is (and has been) one method as opposed to or coinciding with military actions.

The "Merchant" class elite have been on the move (from one country to another) for 1000's of years, infiltrating - enhancing - destroying many economies and nations.

In pre-Roman times, the Merchant Trade Groups had Multi-Nation influence over City-States and ports spanning the entire Mediterranean coastal areas and many inland outposts as far away as present day Europe, Great Britain, Africa, Egypt, upper and central Asia, India, China and probably limited areas in the Americas.

The trade Groups were private "tamkaru" (ancient Akkadian language word meaning “trader”) and had infiltrated 100’s of kingdoms, towns, cities, organized groups, and local trade districts. They used all the language and value systems in existence possibly spanning thousands of years. The trade Groups had no official established “national” borders or boundaries and no genuine single “race”, “ethnicities” or “worships” (other than wealth), and were “independent delegations” within trade routes and outposts as well as within established “nations”.

Their “Banking and Finance” and civil systems became the Babylonian code systems, many from Sumerian Ur-Nammu codes.

The Akkadian language was widely used in “Babylonian” times and is a precursor to later languages.

These “Groups” may be the “Forefathers” and “Founders” of modern international trade systems and “secret” political/religious organizations. Ancient temples within “nations” and “city-states” were used as “depositories (and warehouses)” and may have been the first forms of “central banks”.





posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 09:59 PM
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Posts like the OP's are why I barely come to this site anymore. At first I thought ATS was mostly fo for discussion of fringe science and the like, but a nasty strain of conservatism kept popping up over and over. "Serious" discussions of why minorities are to blame for the world's problems, hatred of gays...no thanks.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 10:13 PM
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unfortunately almost everybody mix Judaism and Zionism, which are completly different. Zionism is working for TPTB and everything the Jewish people are accused is in reality the Zionists who are guilty.



posted on Jun, 22 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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Why hasn't this anti-Semitic S.O.B. AngryOne been banned already? And before any of the other Jew-haters try to spew any bull# defending this guy, I'm not even close to Jewish.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by AverageJoe1
Why hasn't this anti-Semitic S.O.B. AngryOne been banned already? And before any of the other Jew-haters try to spew any bull# defending this guy, I'm not even close to Jewish.


Uh-huh. Yet again with the name calling.

Question: Can you actually refute any of my underlying points? Or are you yet another ultra-PC twit with an irrational hatred of the truth?

And just what's up with the assumptions about my gender?



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 04:30 AM
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Originally posted by CoRiBu
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Yes, I agree. There were many deaths in the camps. Are you familiar with the Dayton-Stockton Professor of History, Emeritus, at Princeton named Arno J. Mayer? He wrote a book titled "Why Did The Heavens Not Darken?" in which he explains that the majority of deaths at the Auschwitz complex were the result of typhus.


Prof. Arno J. Mayer (retired from the History Dept, Princeton U) is NOT a Holocaust denier.

I do not doubt that many prisoners died from disease and malnutrition. Much of the Zyklon B (cyanide based pesticide) used in some of the more notorious camps, was used to combat lice, as well as to gas some of the prisoners. Typhus from lice was a problem in the camps.

Bergen-Belsen was the most notorious for disease. The inmates suffered not only from typhus & dysentery, but there were waves of typhoid which killed thousands. When the British liberated Bergen-Belsen they found so many dead bodies in varying stages of decay -- there weren't enough people capable of disposing of the bodies.
Incidently, Bergen-Belsen was not one of the purpose-built death camps, but rather a transit camp inside Germany that had turned into a kind of H*ll on Earth. The British tried & executed the camp Commandant in 1945.



Have you watched David Cole's videos?


No, I haven't gotten to that yet.



I have also realized that individuals who present information may present some that is valid and some that is not all in the same breath. Dr. Norman Finkelstein wrote "The Holocaust Industry" in which his basic point is that many Jews who were not in Germany have a guilt complex which, in my opinion, leads to the generation of stories of survival. I say that the Holocaust did happen but not the way it is popularly portrayed. There are a lot of contradictions and unanswered questions, in my opinion. Thank you


Dr. Norman Finkelstein is NOT a Holocaust denier either. Both of his parents had survived concentration camps.
His book, "The Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering" (2001), looks interesting.
His main contention is that the Holocaust has been MISused for political and financial gain and (of course) to support Zionist Israel. No argument there.

As for David Irving, I would be hard pressed to swallow any of his "facts" whole. Irving is a Nazi sympathizer. HIs one book that I read "The Destruction of Dresden" (1963) is also full of errors. I do NOT agree with his imprisonment in Austria for his unpopular views. I hate the whole book burning thing.

If someone wants to be a Neo-Nazi and deny the Holocaust ever happened, I suppose they have the freedom to do that. I am alarmed that the young are being infected with this. I mean the entire Nazi ideology is TOXIC. Unfortunately for this world, Nazism did not die with the end of WWII, it merely went underground -- and sometimes not that far underground.

To say that the Holocaust didn't really happen and the Nazis were just "misunderstood" because ONLY maybe 800.000 Jews died at Auschwitz and not the original Soviet estimate of 3 to 4 million.
To say, "Well, gee I guess it's okay then"... is INSANE.

Holocaust Deniers need to study the Holocaust. Not a pleasant thing to do, but an important and necessary confrontation with human evil.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 04:44 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
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You are absolutely correct.

The "Money Changers" have been in power for many many 1000's of years.

Long before Rome and Babylon. In fact, they are the ones who started both, as they did with all "nations", "governments", and probably all religions !

The elite ruling class merchants (and / or commerce bankers) that go from one country to another did (and are doing) so for economic reasons. Financial infiltration is (and has been) one method as opposed to or coinciding with military actions. [...]



Thanks, Xuenchen, for spelling this out. I imagine this (in a nutshell) is the info in "Babylon Banksters" -- really enlightening stuff, a new way of looking at things for me.

Right now I'm researching the "Venetian Black Nobility." This is supposed to be the "Inner Court" of the Global Elite.

Also, Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, founder of the Bilderberg Group, was a member of the Nazi Party in his youth. Many European aristocrats were Nazi-sympathizers.

I'm trying to figure out how this all ties together.



posted on Jun, 23 2011 @ 04:51 AM
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Originally posted by Isaacland
unfortunately almost everybody mix Judaism and Zionism, which are completly different. Zionism is working for TPTB and everything the Jewish people are accused is in reality the Zionists who are guilty.



Welcome to this thread, Isaacland. Yes, you are right. This needs to be emphasized again & again. What we are talking about here, the small Elite Cabal that seems to own & control everything worth owning & controlling in this world, has nothing to do with the average Jew.





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