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posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 01:27 AM
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What we all fail to grasp is we in the west are just small players in the Bigotry and racist stakes since we were all reeducated by the UN.
Trouble is the rest of humanity knows that the meek get slaughtered to feed the wolves.
And its our fault that we are so stupid.




posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 07:52 AM
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some other misconceptions could be:

flagrant misleading and false advertising of products and services combined with price gouging.

many of which are "perceived", and perhaps even "prejudged" to be of "Jewish" origins and have "Jewish" overtones.

perceptions of arrogance when highlighting "Jewish" "superiorities".

and of course, the constant "sympathy" pleadings.

most of which sends negative signals to average people.

especially when combined with hysterical and "quick to judge" responses.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 09:03 AM
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Ok ATS Mods, You have removed my last post of which i stated how disgusting it is for ats to have hidden this thread (which is about the extent of jewish control) For the reason of being off topic.

What a silly thing to say and how ridiculous it comes across.

Ok i would like to add, yes one can find this thread if one is a member by using the my ats feature to track down last posts. BUT if one is not a member and not used to the forum, how are they going to find it.

Please correct me if im wrong but this thread is in ats skunk works yes? This thread has at present 109 flags yes?
So why on earth when one clicks skunk works from the home page, it is nowhere to be seen and the thread at the top of the page under the heading of ''top member pick'' has LESS FLAGS THAN THIS ONE??????????

Then to remove my post as off topic


I guess i should thank ATS really because in doing such things only goes to fortify what this thread is about.

e2a Now i know im new here and maybe i have got the situation of ats removing my last post as off topic wrong, but i don't see how and if i have it would be nice for one to explain why instead of simply removing my post!

good day

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edit on 4-6-2011 by Unrivaled1 because: typo



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by semperfortis

Mod Edit: Review This Link: The END of Hate Speech, subtle or otherwise, on ATS


Not going to be tolerated on ATS

Racist have no place here

Semper


This is funny..since this whole freakin thread is basically racist subtle or otherwise.

Nice job Mods..



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 10:14 AM
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I refer you to the 2 words below abovetopsecret.com


Have a nice day



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 10:16 AM
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Judaism is not a race

Judaism is not a race because Jews do not share one common ancestry. For instance, Ashkenazi Jews and Sephardic Jews are both "Jewish." However, whereas Ashkenazi Jews often hail from Europe, Sephardic Jews often hail from the Middle East. People of many different races have become Jewish over the centuries.
Judaism is not a nationality

Although today Israel is often called the Jewish homeland, being Jewish is not a nationality because Jews have been dispersed throughout the world for almost two thousand years. Hence, Jews come from countries all over the world.

Peace



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 10:19 AM
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Seems like if this is a major issue to a lot of folks out here that, maybe, just maybe, instead of hiding in your room and pounding on your keyboard... You ought to get off your butt and run for an office. Go to Hollywood and get into entertainment. Make a change. Make a difference. Take a Public Stand! Don't sit around on your duff feeling superior, simply because you have a "cause" to beef about. Change starts with you... But only, and apparently if you're not Jewish....

Seems like Hitler and a few other Morons started this path, made changes and killed how many Jews? Then, Oila! Suddenly the Poles were inferior, the Czechs, Old people, limited intelligence people, retarded people... And so on, and so on.

Regardless of your original intent to publish your post, you left a lot of ways open for a lot of evil to raise it's head...



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by sigung86
Seems like if this is a major issue to a lot of folks out here that, maybe, just maybe, instead of hiding in your room and pounding on your keyboard... You ought to get off your butt and run for an office. Go to Hollywood and get into entertainment. Make a change. Make a difference. Take a Public Stand! Don't sit around on your duff feeling superior, simply because you have a "cause" to beef about. Change starts with you... But only, and apparently if you're not Jewish....

Seems like Hitler and a few other Morons started this path, made changes and killed how many Jews? Then, Oila! Suddenly the Poles were inferior, the Czechs, Old people, limited intelligence people, retarded people... And so on, and so on.

Regardless of your original intent to publish your post, you left a lot of ways open for a lot of evil to raise it's head...





What?????????

Still puzzled.
What do you mean??????????????????????????????
What are you on about???????????????????????????
edit on 4-6-2011 by meathed because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 11:10 AM
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First of all, there most certainly is a racial element to the Jews. This can be verified by simply looking at them. I still insist that this thread is not "racist", though.

As for your other concerns: Agreed. Your earlier post got removed as off topic because it technically was off topic; still, you make valid points. We should NOT expect any answers or cooperation from the staff, though. That simply will not happen. I know better by now.

Now as for how one is to find this thread, you simply go to "Forum", then to "Skunk Works", and it's found right there. There's still some obvious suppression, though - the fact that it got moved to Skunk Works to begin with is really nothing short of outrageous, and it WAS apparently unjustly booted from at least one section of this site (aside from General Conspiracies, of course, where it originated). But if you ask me, this all just goes to validate my underlying point.



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LOL! EXACTLY what I was thinking! I mean......WHAT!?!?

edit on 4-6-2011 by AngryOne because: Added something to the first reply.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by AngryOne
......And another thing: I really do have to wonder exactly where these flags are coming from; it wouldn't surprise me if a few of those secretly showing support for this thread are, in fact, Jews. Nothing wrong with that in the slightest, of course; the truth is always there for those who seek it, whether Jew or gentile.

You all have a choice, people......


AngryOne, I was on another thread a while back (I can't remember which one right now), but I was shocked at the number of anti-Semitic posts that cropped up on that thread. In fact, I posted just that -- that I was surprised at just how much hate for Jews there seemed to be among ATS-ers.

And another thing -- there seem to be a number of Holocaust-deniers. (I'm not one.)

It may be that the people flagging this thread, do not want to tempt the "Fates" into being banned forever.
Besides it's a lot easier to S&F than to respond to a topic this complex.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by Josephus23

Josephus23: “What the priests of Israel and Judah had discovered is at the heart of Bill Cooper's theory on the mystery religions of Babylon.
And at the heart of this theory is how these priests learned to divide a society into the have's and have not's while also maintaining this division through successive generations….”

”The key to controlling the masses with this belief system of Judaism rests with the ethics and values that it taught as being absolute, containing no gray area…. As was a method of atoning for this sin, the sacrifice.”

”This method of sacrificial atonement benefitted the exact same priest classes that created the rules that governed behavior through the concept of sin, rules which laid the foundations for this concept of sin in the first place.”

”I must hand it to them. The entire concept is quite ingenious, and in all reality, the 10 commandments are not a bad way to live….”

”It is not difficult to understand why those who are in power remain in power if this viewpoint is taken.”

”It is also not difficult to understand how this power can be passed down through successive generations if, in fact, this "secret" to the ruling class is passed down generationally.”

”Interestingly, those who were chosen for the priest classes in Israel and Judah were picked due to their generational ties.”


AuranVector: I read Bill Cooper’s “Behold a Pale Horse” nearly 20 years ago. I remember at that time (even though I agreed with some of his ideas) I thought he was too extreme. I have since changed many of my views and some of his ideas aren’t so crazy (to me) anymore.

However, I have never heard or read his “Mystery Babylon” series. (I have a natural interest in the occult.) If these ideas (you’ve re-stated in this post) are from Cooper, it looks like a rich mine to dig in. Very, very interesting theories that explain much.




Josephus23: ”I have read theories that state that years of inbreeding has reinforced these desirable sociopathic traits found within the ruling class.
Sociopathic traits that benefit anyone who is able to engage in the secret ethics of the ruling class.”



AuranVector: This is brilliant. I think this is possible. So this is what was meant by the “superiority gene” –- a genetic pre-disposition to sociopathology.




”… I am doing some research on the next post that will discuss some elements of Judaism and the Roman Empire that are not familiar to me….”


AuranVector: Sounds like it’s worth sticking around for.
edit on 4-6-2011 by AuranVector because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by sigung86
Seems like if this is a major issue to a lot of folks out here that, maybe, just maybe, instead of hiding in your room and pounding on your keyboard... You ought to get off your butt and run for an office. Go to Hollywood and get into entertainment. Make a change. Make a difference. Take a Public Stand! Don't sit around on your duff feeling superior, simply because you have a "cause" to beef about. Change starts with you... But only, and apparently if you're not Jewish....

Seems like Hitler and a few other Morons started this path, made changes and killed how many Jews? Then, Oila! Suddenly the Poles were inferior, the Czechs, Old people, limited intelligence people, retarded people... And so on, and so on.

Regardless of your original intent to publish your post, you left a lot of ways open for a lot of evil to raise it's head...






yeah, I will just run out and assume control of the media, cheers for the pep talk, all so clear now



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by Lynda101

AuranVector: ‘Israel could not survive without US support. And that support will never be withdrawn without the approval of the Zionists who own the Federal Reserve.

The Zionist-supporting Rothschilds banking cartel are NOT going to be rooted out of our system. They own us. They own the Congress. They decide which Republicrat candidates are going to run for President. They own the judicial system. They own the corporations. They own the media – communications. It’s done.“


Lynda101 : “So you are saying that ‘Rothschilds banking cartel are NOT going to be rooted out of our system.’
but:

”Are you saying that to me, because you believe it or are suckered into believing it and you want me to believe your shouted NOT also? Which would make me another sheeple would it not? You forget Government Departments onlly function with the cooperations of those who work there and public cooperation. The UK Cencus is proof of this.”



AuranVector: The MAJORITY will cooperate with the Census-takers and other government departments. As an example. few are as foolhardy as Bill Cooper to defy the IRS and their enforcers and end up in a shoot-out. (Bill Cooper was shot to death by sheriffs sent to arrest him.)

As for the UK, very few are equipped for an armed insurrection.




Lynda101: ”Or are you making a political statement to me because I'm one of a huge number of people who are closely looking into how the world I live in is run and I am finding it stinks with corruption. Are you hoping I am prepared to accept this corruption which looks more like slavery every day? Its having exactly that effect on the spirit of the people.”


AuranVector: The world (at least in Kali & Dwapara Yugas) has stunk with corruption for a very long time. That some of us are becoming aware of just how enslaved we are and that the enslavement is INCREASING, does not fundamentally change TPTB. It will not stop the Culling. If anything it (noisy serfs raising their pitchforks in protest) will probably force TPTB to accelerate the timetable for their agendas.

We come to sites like ATS to vent our fears & rage, because most of us know we are powerless to root out the hydra-headed international monster in charge. Reckless serfs like Bill Cooper who tackle Godzilla head on, turn into Godzilla munchies.

My point is: I think you’re naïve.




Lynda101: ”You clearly see no change but I see things differently to you. I see huge changes arising now concerning the Federal Reserve finances, because the US$ is not being used by all the countries in the world for oil purchases. India, China, Russia, Brazil and Japan want out of that reserve currency and Bernanke is in a sweat. The Fed looses the coveted world reserve currency, it will loose a huge part of its incoming wealth that it hasn't had to either work or take any risk to earn. That challence has been mounted its only a matter of time.”



AuranVector: You know that Bernanke is in a sweat? Did it ever occur to you that the US Dollar is being collapsed on purpose?

George Soros (Jew) was urging the members of the World Economic Forum (Davos, Switzerland) way back in February 2008 (before Obama was made Dem candidate) to DROP the USD as the world’s reserve currency.

Soros has also been urging the US to spend MORE – don’t worry about that soaring national debt. Soros is also pressing for the legalization of ALL currently illegal drugs. It’s so good for the US to have a friend in Soros.

A new currency is in the wings, waiting to replace the US Dollar.




Lynda101: ”I suspect the private bankers behind the scenes are holding their wealth in gold well out of the way of the USA, UK and as much of the rest of the world that is quietl;y unravelling - Greece. A few defaulters who follow the Iceland model would topple the Central Banks like dominoes. I suspect several countries are looking at Iceland which seems to be surviving quite well despite a firmly entrenched religious belief in help from faeries God didn't fortunately travel that far.”

”Nothing stays the same, you can see that throughout history. History will deal with the Banking Rothschilds in due course, their control is now out in the open and many view them and their ilk as public enemy no 1. No man ever accepts or wants to feel like a slave, so we are in the opening rounds of a fight against these bankers now.”


AuranVector: I’m not worried about the top of the food chain losing their golden toilet bowls any time soon.
Remember that old saying: “The more things change, the more they stay the same.”




Lynda101: ”People at the top of the pile always comply with the rules of elitism. They protect their eliteness exposing themselves only to relationships and intermarriage within their own closeknit groups that benefit the 'family' and are also from their own elite pack. Royalty has done this for generations and it doesn't bode well to look at what you have left.”


AuranVector: I think of various revolutions in the past. What do these revolutions produce? One corrupt tyrant is taken down and replaced by another corrupt tyrant – - the new tyrant often worse than the old.

edit on 4-6-2011 by AuranVector because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by JR MacBeth

JR MacBeth: “For now, I thought I might insert something that tends to get missed sometimes: Secret societies.

Well, you (Josephus23) brought up Bill Copper, and your interesting term, secret ethics certainly deserves some attention….”

”The topic is the ‘extent of Jewish control’, and while we get to a point where maybe there is a consensus, that there is quite a bit of Jewish control, we eventually get to the point where we need reasons why this is the case.”

”But whoever the ultimate Powers are, behind whomever they have chosen to use, and hide behind, there is no question that the Masons fit into the puzzle, and probably like the Jews, they play no small part.”

”For those who have researched intelligence agencies, it's origins, and are familiar with the intimate relationship they have with secret societies, worldwide, it would come as no surprise to find very Jewish versions of the things most think of. B'nai B'rith for example, and others, feeding into the Mossad, which together with the very Masonic CIA, along with British and German intelligence, essentially run the world, as a sort of "partnership" in crime. I could say more about the former KGB, the Russian organization that rolled out the world's most widespread network, with assets still deployed globally, but that will no doubt stick in too many American craws.”

”I realize many are just fine believing that the US, or the British, or the Jews ‘run the world’, but in a sense, the evidence shows that they largely run it together.”


AuranVector: Yes, I agree they have their helpers. But the real power belongs to the people who control the money.



JR MacBeth: ”I happened to know someone who was ‘in charge’ of virtually every radio station in a certain part of the Arab world (I can't say exactly where, because it would identify him). Sounds preposterous to the average American of course, but as an officer extensively trained in languages, and psy-ops, he was uniquely equipped to do just that. Over 50 radio stations, with their own disc jockeys, saying all the things you would expect, in that part of the world, with most never suspecting that their paychecks have been processed through NATO, and that a former military intelligence officer literally ‘approves’ everything significant that is allowed on the air.”

”This is the situation in one somewhat small part of the world, that Westerners could probably care less about. AND YET, this is literally NOTHING compared to the kind of control exerted ‘against’ the West by the ‘same’ kinds of people. And by kinds of people, I'm reaching beyond what the OP is saying in this thread here.


AuranVector: Thanks for that story, JR. It shows what many of us have maintained: the news or info we get from radio/TV is only the news TPTB want us to have. You can bet the news has been shaped to move us in the direction they want us to go.



"’How’ that control is implemented has everything to do with a ‘hierarchy’ that may find it's peak in the murky clouds, however, before it has come all the way down to us, it has largely gone through a very coordinated and sophisticated intelligence culture. This intelligence agency ‘culture’, as I call it, could never have emerged if there was not already a well-established ‘network’ of secret societies there to make sure it could work.

”Secret societies, the original ‘need to know’ outfits, were in fact the perfect incubators for what we have today.”

”But how few ever speak of this ‘matrix’-like reality that is now the norm? Guys like Bill Cooper, who warned us about this Age of Deception? How long did he last. (OK, some of us do talk about it on ATS too!) “

”I'm not saying all this to exonerate the Jews, or to somehow insinuate that it's now the Masons. It's a complex whole, and each plays their part. It's very much like the infamous ‘Pyramid’, with many helping to ‘rule’, and yet they are themselves ruled by those above them. And the top of that ‘unfinished’ pyramid? Well, it's missing, not merely because it is unfinished...

”This still leads us back to ‘who’ is at the top of this pyramid, who is behind the curtain, this curtain of intelligence agencies, using their global power to keep the machine marching forward...to what exactly?”

”Are we going to ‘like it’ when the pyramid is finally done?? “


AuranVector: Here we go around the mulberry bush again. Is it the Illuminati? The Templars? The Freemasons? The Rosicrucians? Ming the Merciless and his Chinese pirates?

Seriously though, this is fascinating info and gives some insight into how things operate in our world.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 11:52 AM
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Why are people called anti-semetic when they say anything negative, whether constructive or not, about a person who happens to be jewish

It is a total mind psychology that is actually brilliant.

Just from my understanding, if a group of people actively "prefer" there "own kind" over others that would be racist no?

So, the jewish population prefers themselves (secular) over others. This is how it is written in the bible? Or God preferred jewish people? Whose God?

The point I am making is that if you are called anti- semetic, from a person who prefers his own kind. It is a completely hypocrticaly statement.

Hey you don't like jewish people for that comment, but I prefer to marry, hire, socialize, only with jewish people.

Who really is the hater of cultures? Jewish people have been raised to believe they are superior to other people in a world that promotes equality.

The next time you are called an anti- semite ak why they prefer themselves over you? And who's actions are causing the most harm.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 11:53 AM
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No I believed you indicated that the "Jews" had COMPLETE CONTROL of the media. Now would that not mean that they would own or be in a position to tell Al Jazeera Al Arabia and News Corp what they can broadcast? I don't think that happen. I do, however, think you paint with a too broad brush sir.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by kerazeesicko

Originally posted by semperfortis

Mod Edit: Review This Link: The END of Hate Speech, subtle or otherwise, on ATS


Not going to be tolerated on ATS

Racist have no place here

Semper


This is funny..since this whole freakin thread is basically racist subtle or otherwise.

Nice job Mods..


This thread is NOT racist.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 12:05 PM
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I thought it was common knowledge that Hitler workded for Zionist Jews, and the Holocaust was essentially an internal ethnic cleansing in order to get rid of most of the "dirty" Jews that hailed from the Czar days in Russia.

The Jews were the only Victors in WW2 from what i can tell. Who else gained any land from the whole affair? Who else was given uncontested amnesty from any wrong doing committed for the next 70 years? Who funded both sides of the war?

I don't understand peoples claims that what ever was said at the Nuremburg trials must be the way it really went down. Why on earth would victors tell the truth and strip themselves of their own victory? That would be stupid.

Who profited from the Holocaust? Was it Germans who would have had to waist valuable man power, diesel, and other resources in order to kill a few jews (who were listed as #8 on the IBM cards as type of prisoner)???

Zionists killed their own people to gain the land they felt they deserved just as America killed its own people to enter into a conflict they felt was necessary for survival.

Why was the only Rothschild taken by the Nazi's a female that was married into the family?
en.wikipedia.org...

You would think that if Hitler was really on a rampage to collect influencial Jews that could further harm Germany, He would have gotten more than a converted female that couldn't even bare a proper offspring.

Zionist Jews are not bad, they just want to kill us all to fulfill their own warped prophecies. good on them



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by AngryOne
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First of all, there most certainly is a racial element to the Jews. This can be verified by simply looking at them. I still insist that this thread is not "racist", though.


I have to argue about this "racial element" to the Jews. If you're referring to the physical characteristics of the cartoon Jewish stereotype, it doesn't hold much water in my experience.

Most of the Jews I've known look North European: blue-eyed blonds or sandy-haired, redheads, etc. The "dark" ones look Latin to me.

So when I talk about Jews, the "racial" component is not important to me. I don't know about the other people here.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by AuranVector

Originally posted by AngryOne
reply to post by Unrivaled1
 

First of all, there most certainly is a racial element to the Jews. This can be verified by simply looking at them. I still insist that this thread is not "racist", though.


I have to argue about this "racial element" to the Jews. If you're referring to the physical characteristics of the cartoon Jewish stereotype, it doesn't hold much water in my experience.

Most of the Jews I've known look North European: blue-eyed blonds or sandy-haired, redheads, etc. The "dark" ones look Latin to me.

So when I talk about Jews, the "racial" component is not important to me. I don't know about the other people here.


The whole topic of "race" is rather complicated, and most people only have a general impression of what it's about.

The most important thing about it isn't DNA actually. Once people look into it, they find it's much more about "identity". That's key in understanding the issue.

So, while the concept of "race" itself is somewhat flawed, being more of a social construct, when it comes down to it, that doesn't necessarily negate genetic aspects.

The Jews seem to feel this way, even if we might not agree. In one of Rabbi Stephen Wise's more famous statements, we find out how many Jews feel about this idea:

"Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race, and we are a race."

I realize, he's a bit dated, but even Netanyahu has on more than one occasion referred to "his people" as a "race".

As far as the "racial component" being important? Well, yes, it could very well be important, at least in the sense that if you have a group of people who honestly believe they are genetically "superior" to others, than that can express itself in ways most of us today might not like too much.

I suppose it's easy to think of "white" people this way, or Nazis, but there are even black people out there who may have adopted this way of thinking (Nation of Islam, for example).

So, probably best not to casually brush aside the issue of race just yet.

JR



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