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Originally posted by Elbereth
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Elbereth
Every one of America's allies controls America's foreign policy. I think this is true. I think Israel and the Brits have the largest chunk of influence, but at the end of the day America doesn't really care what Israel wants. America controls Israel, I think. And uses it as a puppet for whenever it wants a war to test new military hardware, or get a region under its influence. Rome did it in Spain, and Russia did it in Europe. It's a scapegoat strategy. While they blame Israel, America takes over the region. In this case, because most of the oil goes to Asia, I think its to prevent a war with China over resources.
However, I don't think Iran is very advanced. Not beyond 80s tech. It's a different world. America is quite literally technologically a century ahead of Iran. It's like a giant gorilla is standing between two flies fighting. The gorilla maybe likes the fly with red eyes more than the one with black eyes, who knows. it could squish either at will.
I don't agree that we don't really care what Israel wants. Do you follow American presidential politics? And in the Yom Kippur War we went to Defcon 3 over the threat to Israel. I remember the Phantom jets patrolling the LA Basin. Scary! That was no joke, and you better believe Israel is under our nuclear umbrella, regardless of their own impressive deterrent capability.
Saying America controls Israel beggars credulity. Examples of this control? I'm not sure you are keeping up with current events, because Netanyahu just told BHO to stuff it regarding returning to 1967 borders. Some control. The Brits? Are you kidding? They damn well do our bidding. Don't you remember all the caricatures of Blair as Bush's poodle in the British press during Desert Storm? Iranians stuck in the '80's? Google Iranian military technology. Ever heard of supercavitating torpedoes? Goodby aircraft carrier group.
- Do you even understand what a true Zionist is?
- How much do you know about Southern Sudan? Are you aware Southern Sudan is about to become an independant Sudanese Christian state this September........thats ZIONISIM!
- For the Palestinian Arabs wanting their own independant state.....thats ZIONISM!
- Got it?????????????????????
I think Israel is under our control because quite literally they are the only reason we are still in the middle east and they do what we say. They bark at a lot of stuff, but in the end, they do what we say.
Originally posted by AngryOne
I could certainly go further into this -- the porn industry, the "Russian" Mafia, etc....hmmmm....shall I?
But really, why bother? It's clear that I can't say anything without being labelled a bigot, so......
edit on 1-6-2011 by AngryOne because: Revised first line; added second.
Originally posted by MacroVisio
Wow this thread really took off despite the Israel web squad showing up to derail it. It must really get on their nerves when they inadvertently cause a thread to go viral.
Originally posted by AngryOne
Anyone with a set of eyes and a fully functioning brain can clearly see that the Jewish people have a complete stranglehold on the media (and government). For a variety of reasons, I will not get into all the "hows" and "whys" regarding this issue. It's a complex matter and I'll admit that I haven't quite put all the pieces of the puzzle together. Regardless, the facts are clear.
Contrary to what many people would say, this is not just a silly conspiracy theory. Nor is pointing this out "anti-Semetic" by any means. It is simply the truth -- and a damned relevant truth at that...
...Just think about it, people. Why would the Jews insist on maintaining complete control of the media? Could it possibly be because with the media, one is granted a very important power? And just what would that "power" be, you ask? The power to mold minds, of course. The ability to tell people what you want them to hear.....and to keep from them anything you would really rather they not hear. Put simply, the media is nothing more than a propaganda tool that seems to exist mainly to brainwash the populace. Anyone can see this.
Oh, and by the way, have you by any chance ever heard the names Schumer, Bernanke, Leiberman, Wolfowitz, Greenspan, Emmanual, Ginsberg, Levin, Frank, etc? You have? Well, just what do these people have in common? Go on - take a guess...
Originally posted by randomname
when netanyahu can go to washington, d.c., the world capitol of freedom and democracy and get 300+ senators and congressmen to almost break their wrists applauding so hard in support of a military occupation and oppression of an innocent people, then you have to take a step back as a citizen and start to wonder what the f-ck is going on.
when netanyahu gets more standing ovations than the president of united states in his own congress, then you got to again, step back and ask wtf.
when literally, if netanyahu were to declare that he is building gas chambers and is going to rid israel of every gentile and non-jew, i think all 300+ senators and congressmen, will look at each and wonder what to do for a few seconds, then stand and clap in support because they don't to be seen on cnn as not supporting israel.
that's the state america is in.