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The Extent of Jewish Control

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posted on May, 31 2011 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by Elbereth

Originally posted by Gorman91
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Every one of America's allies controls America's foreign policy. I think this is true. I think Israel and the Brits have the largest chunk of influence, but at the end of the day America doesn't really care what Israel wants. America controls Israel, I think. And uses it as a puppet for whenever it wants a war to test new military hardware, or get a region under its influence. Rome did it in Spain, and Russia did it in Europe. It's a scapegoat strategy. While they blame Israel, America takes over the region. In this case, because most of the oil goes to Asia, I think its to prevent a war with China over resources.

However, I don't think Iran is very advanced. Not beyond 80s tech. It's a different world. America is quite literally technologically a century ahead of Iran. It's like a giant gorilla is standing between two flies fighting. The gorilla maybe likes the fly with red eyes more than the one with black eyes, who knows. it could squish either at will.


I don't agree that we don't really care what Israel wants. Do you follow American presidential politics? And in the Yom Kippur War we went to Defcon 3 over the threat to Israel. I remember the Phantom jets patrolling the LA Basin. Scary! That was no joke, and you better believe Israel is under our nuclear umbrella, regardless of their own impressive deterrent capability.

Saying America controls Israel beggars credulity. Examples of this control? I'm not sure you are keeping up with current events, because Netanyahu just told BHO to stuff it regarding returning to 1967 borders. Some control. The Brits? Are you kidding? They damn well do our bidding. Don't you remember all the caricatures of Blair as Bush's poodle in the British press during Desert Storm? Iranians stuck in the '80's? Google Iranian military technology. Ever heard of supercavitating torpedoes? Goodby aircraft carrier group.


Do you think Israel SHOULD be under our nuclear umbrella? When can they take care of themselves? They have an appreciable nuclear arsenal themselves, and some of the best fighter pilots in the world. When do we let them leave the nest?




posted on May, 31 2011 @ 11:25 PM
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I think the US and Brits are basically just equals in relationships. They help each other, but it does seem the british do whatever we want since ww2. I think Israel is under our control because quite literally they are the only reason we are still in the middle east and they do what we say. They bark at a lot of stuff, but in the end, they do what we say. They are voicy, as you saw with this most recent scandal. However, Obama, I think, was ignorant of what he was speaking of. He's not the brightest in terms of history. I think he doesn't care much about Israel. Obama wants control of America. It's obvious he's less interested in what's happening over there then over here. I get the image he lets the generals do what they want, where with Bush basically he let Dick Cheney do whatever he wanted with the army. It seems like Obama is focusing on domestic things, and literally giving the army free range and autonomy. The Army has an invested interest in controlling Israel, and it might b safe to say that the military of the US controls the political actions of Israel, whereas the US political sector basically has been ignoring Israel.

See America is becoming too bureaucratic. The result is that different parts of America is doing different things. Under Obama, The military has free range to do what it feels is needed, the Politics are focused on the domestic, and Israel is a political afterthought. No president in their right mind would have said those things to Israel. Obama has simply not cared about Israel because of what he's doing in domestic issues. As a result, Israel has less influence, and indeed, has been cast aside as for something to dig up in the closet. One of the results of this is the media backdrop over the region. The media doesn't care because the government doesn't care. The army doesn't care, so the government doesn't care. Nobody cares, so Israel basically just does whatever it wants, and that means pretty much genocide for anyone in the way.

Start observing the dynamic I'm talking about. It's literally a breakup of the unity seen under Bush, not that it was a good thing. It's just that there is growing autonomy within the government because Obama's main concern is domestic issues and a very conservative view of foreign issues. By that I mean, keep it as it is, don't try to change anything. Then why attack Libya you may ask? The military is more autonomous now. And they're getting less money. IE, they want to do easy tasks and quick fixes to keep their image while the government focuses on fixing domestic issues. Libya looked like an easy job. Kill one guy, call it done. It was a mistake, and the president doesn't care enough, so the army is just doing whatever it wants.

You're probably not going to see much presidential affect on the army other than financing and priority. Now where does Israel come into that? Israel just doesn't matter any more. It's become its own little shell, so it wants to make things as it wants. And that's why nothings going to change until th next president, assuming he wants to change anything.

I don't hostly have much proof for these claims, but just watch. Observe and see the words of the political and military leaders. Compare them to Bush, and even other presidents before. Obama is letting the military do what it wants to keep things constant in a changing time. It's a recipe for disaster if you ask me, but when we're leaving the middle east and selling our allies there our old toys as we upgrade the military by 2014, you'll probably see the army continuously being autonomous in its actions, ignoring Israel because they're more concerned with South East Asia and the Eastern middle East.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 11:26 PM
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Although Israel is one Hoopoe with a wicked bite, I think they must remain under our protective umbrella to prevent the admittedly unlikey and probably suicidal scenario of a first-strike attempt at knocking out their nuclear capability. I say this even though I strongly suspect their involvement in 9/11.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 11:39 PM
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I can't address your last post point by point. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. However, I will say that the military was dragged into Libya, which is why we are in a mainly support role in that conflict. Gates basically told BHO that if there were American boots on the ground in Libya, he could find himself a new Defense Secretary (a good idea in my opinion.)



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 12:03 AM
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Seems legit. Nobody wants to be in that war. I think It is just all a mistake we should let them handle themselves. It's as if the president mumbled something over his shoulder to a general asking what they should do and then BHO went back to something else. So the general basically just didn't know what to do. General Ham isn't someone to just bounce into a warzone if you know anything about him. Man values his troops, and isn't going to go start a war for no reason.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 12:29 AM
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OP, I too have noticed this coincidence, I thought I was the only one. Its so funny how you were immediately attacked. And no I'm not anti semitic. I have jew friends. I haven't been able to put the puzzle together but something is up with the jews. lol.

please bring forth whatever info you got on this, i'm am interested.

PEACE



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:11 AM
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I could certainly go further into this -- the porn industry, the "Russian" Mafia, etc....hmmmm....shall I?
But really, why bother? It's clear that I can't say anything without being labelled a bigot, so......

edit on 1-6-2011 by AngryOne because: Revised first line; added second.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
 



- Do you even understand what a true Zionist is?


Yes, it is an Atheistic movement which used/uses Jews as Guinea pigs for their experiments.



- How much do you know about Southern Sudan? Are you aware Southern Sudan is about to become an independant Sudanese Christian state this September........thats ZIONISIM!


That is not Zionism, Zionism called for people from world wide to migrate to a certain location and build a nation. That's different than the indigenous population making a state of their own. The main ideological founder of Zionism was not a Palestinian Jew, rather a Russian Atheist.



- For the Palestinian Arabs wanting their own independant state.....thats ZIONISM!


Palestinians live in that land.



- Got it?????????????????????


No.

Zionist Atheists are using Judaism as a vehicle, it is sad in my opinion, but true:

"... And the LORD spoke unto Moses in the plains of Moab by the Jordan at Jericho, saying:'Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them: When ye pass over the Jordan into the land of Canaan, then ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their figured stones, and destroy all their molten images, and demolish all their high places. And ye shall drive out the inhabitants of the land, and dwell therein; for unto you have I given the land to possess it.... But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you, then shall those that ye let remain of them be as thorns in your eyes, and as pricks in your sides, and they shall harass you in the land wherein ye dwell."

They use the above verses to experiment on border-less nations. This is Atheism (survival of the fittest), using Judaism as a vehicle to do its dirty work.

All the above is my opinion, and should be subjected to criticism.
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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:41 AM
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I think Israel is under our control because quite literally they are the only reason we are still in the middle east and they do what we say. They bark at a lot of stuff, but in the end, they do what we say.


Rubbish..
The Israel/US relationship is give and take..
The US gives and Israel takes..



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:49 AM
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im being labelled racist alot recently for making pure observations.


i see lots and lots of people "hypnotized" by television. while its on. i like to play "spot the jew"

as a form of not letting TV get me in a rage.
i cannot sit and watch television. i look around the room and the expression on ppls faces its like they are zombied.
i also know a few seconds of staring at the idiot box and u get yourself hypnotized also.

except i have a tendency to snap out of it. and rage @ the box in stead.

so lately ive been playing spot the jew. this isnt like im saying "hey guys lets play spot the jew" or "like thats even the name ive given it" its just what i do. i guess.

if theres a major political message or moral or "plot" or "point" to anything i watch on television. aside from its basic money manipulation of social "wants and needs" theres always alike a point or motive. or moral thats trying to be portrayed and its usually by "JEWISH" ideals. isnt it?

tell me im not just fixated on the irrational idea that "jews run the world" and all the facets of there control become all i see.

no. its just 1 in many forms of "RETARDIZATION" i see around the place.


not to mention that in actual fact. a RACIST is the person who calls someone racist.
not the person making the observation or statement. the statement can be racist in intention yes. but only the "RACIST" knows that. right?

like ive had an argument with a girl. over an observation. "where is the toilet? in a room of crowded people there happens to be a black man standing right beside the toilet door. i say. next to the black guy over there. obviously i had no intention of it being anything other than an observation. in a hectic situation with lots of people everywhere. it just happend to be that it was easy to see. so she calls that a racist comment. and i challenge her because i say that "your the one who actually is defining the "situation" here as racist. so really the "projection" of it being something more than it is is really coming from the person yelling "RACIST" so i called her a racist. and she flipped out even more. hahaha

crazy



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:59 AM
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Not rubbish. What do you think we give them all that for. Because they asked? No. Because we tell them what to do with it.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 02:00 AM
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Well well....yes me being Canadian and having the same issues of land entitlement with the Natives i could say the same thing....suck it up....but If one does look into the stablility of power behind the scenes of the Us Gov as i had mapped out it show an interesting picture does it not....or have you bothered to look.

When it is a war that has been done and gone it is a different matter than when it is a war that is ongoing....this war is still being fought....and i myself am considered a Goy......so therefore it is important to keep on fighting against the ones whom may be attacking my liberties.

Now peope seem to also think this is just a US problem that is occuring....well this is going on in Australia...Canada.....And Britain....and it is flooding throughout the EU as we speak.....as more and more power is being given over to the Zionist movement throughout the world.

Are you one that actually think that the war in Libya is about human rights.....hmmmmmmm

There are fives countries right now without a Rothchilds controlled central bank.

Libya
Sudan
Iran
Cuba
North Korea

Hmmmmm do any of those countries ring a bell.....Now we have Syria....It is killing it's civillians at an alarming rate during protests....and have any country reacted on their behave.....NOPE

Is it not interesting where the conflict lays and how the manipulation fits the program.....It is interesting to me.

it is a strange beast that moves through the societies of the world eeking out change and to be aware is not a bad thing in my eyes.....To be told you are a bigot or racist or worse because you say what you think on an issue because it has been made a taboo topic is not the right.

If people listen to what is actually being said in this thread it is actually in defence of the JEW......

They are being used as bait by a evil movement that cares not one spec for the Jewish people....they only care about their own wealth and greed and use the persecution of the JEW to achieve these goals....so if talking about it is a bad thing....please enlightened me.

YES as i said the OP may have worded something wrong and they themselves may harbour some Jew hatred....but if it can be pointed out that the hatred is being mis directed and can focused onto the real program behind the scences then how is that a bad thing.

just as people throughout this thread have said you have extremism in most all societies and threrefore one would have to conclude that there is also extremism in the Jewish people somewhere.....well that extremism come in the form of the Zionists.....and it needs to be filtered out and demonstrated so that the fears and anger may be directed to the root of the problem and not towards the Orthodox Jews who had as Josephus Stated lived in peace amongst the people and whom are still peace loving people.

love life and live life with love






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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 02:09 AM
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Wow this thread really took off despite the Israel web squad showing up to derail it. It must really get on their nerves when they inadvertently cause a thread to go viral.

Israel seems to have a new cheerleader Canada




posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 02:26 AM
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Now this does make one sad to be Canadain does it it not......But as i said in an my last post the infiltration runs deep and the pockets of the Zionists are even deeper.

IT is unbelieavble how people say that the goverments in place are the ones there by the the people yet why time after time do those same governments ignore what the people say.

The people do not want war.......the people do not make war......Governments make war.

Why do governements make war.......Because WAR MAKES MONEY.


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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 02:43 AM
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Originally posted by AngryOne
I could certainly go further into this -- the porn industry, the "Russian" Mafia, etc....hmmmm....shall I?
But really, why bother? It's clear that I can't say anything without being labelled a bigot, so......

edit on 1-6-2011 by AngryOne because: Revised first line; added second.


Good thread bro. Always glad to see someone else break the taboo and try to raise awareness. Even if you get jumped on by lemmings, lurkers still get another view and the stars and flags speak for themselves.



Originally posted by MacroVisio
Wow this thread really took off despite the Israel web squad showing up to derail it. It must really get on their nerves when they inadvertently cause a thread to go viral.


Indeed. They even have programs that alert them all so they can attack alternate views en masse. en.wikipedia.org...
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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 03:03 AM
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So you're baiscally saying that guys like this guy

and this guy

are evil monsters out to destroy the world?

By the way, check this post lol:
www.jewornotjew.com...



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 04:06 AM
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Is their success something to be feared or admired?
There is no doubt they seem to dominate a lot of areas in society.
Movies: Go to the Top Ten at the box office (whatever date you are reading this thread) and you will see the majority of the Top Ten movies have a heavy Jewish hand of influence.
I consider the following to be influential
Director
Writer
Producer
Actor
Try and find a movie in the Top Ten without this hand of influence (unsure if they are Jewish, a quick internet search is all you need)
current Top Ten
1 The Hangover Part II (2011)
Director:Todd Phillips (also writer,producer)
Writer:Craig Mazin
Produced by: aniel Goldberg
Produced by: Chris Lowenstein
Produced by: avid Siegel
Actor:Justin Bartha
Actor
aul Giamatti

2 Kung Fu Panda 2 (2011)
Actor: Jack Black
Actor: Dustin Hoffman
Actor: Seth Rogen
Actor: avid Cross
Actor: Victor Garber

3 Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (2011)
Could't find anything

4 Bridesmaids (2011)
Produced by: Apatow Productions
Actor: Maya Rudolph
Actor: Matt Lucas

5 Thor (2011)
Original Comic: Stan lee
Original Comic: Larry Lieber
Produced by: Stan Lee
Actor: Natalie Portman
Actor: Kat Dennings

6 Fast Five (2011)
Actor:Gal Gadot

7 Midnight in Paris (2011)
Director: Woody Allen
Writer: Woody Allen

8 Something Borrowed (2011)
Director: Luke Greenfield
Actor: Ginnifer Goodwin
Actor: Kate Hudson
Actor: Jonathan Epstein

9 Rio (2011)
Actor: Leslie Mann
Actor: Jesse Eisenberg

10 Jumping the Broom (2011)
Could't find anything

Now watch for the credits on your favourite prime time tv shows and see how many Producers are Jewish.
Watch the Discovery Channel or History channel. I guarantee within a 1 hour show there will be at least 3 Jewish professors or experts, talking about the topic of the show.

What are the top 10 Cities of America? Now can someone tell me how many of their Mayors are Jewish?

How many Jewish guests do Jon Stewart + Stephen Colbert have on their show every week?

How many members of the Supreme court are Jewish?

How many members of the FED board are Jewish?

Type Financial into you-tube or Live-Leak and you wont be able to find a clip that doesn't contain a Jew talking.

How many journalists are Jewish? read your news paper and see who wrote it.

Now consider this. They are just 1.6 - 2.4 percent of the US population.
I don't find that something to be scared of. I find it amazing and it shows there must be something about the Jewish people that drives them forward, like no other race.
I am still shocked when I watch science on TV and almost always there is a Jewish scientist involved. Are their brains bigger than the rest of us?
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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 04:06 AM
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Originally posted by AngryOne
Anyone with a set of eyes and a fully functioning brain can clearly see that the Jewish people have a complete stranglehold on the media (and government). For a variety of reasons, I will not get into all the "hows" and "whys" regarding this issue. It's a complex matter and I'll admit that I haven't quite put all the pieces of the puzzle together. Regardless, the facts are clear.

Contrary to what many people would say, this is not just a silly conspiracy theory. Nor is pointing this out "anti-Semetic" by any means. It is simply the truth -- and a damned relevant truth at that...

...Just think about it, people. Why would the Jews insist on maintaining complete control of the media? Could it possibly be because with the media, one is granted a very important power? And just what would that "power" be, you ask? The power to mold minds, of course. The ability to tell people what you want them to hear.....and to keep from them anything you would really rather they not hear. Put simply, the media is nothing more than a propaganda tool that seems to exist mainly to brainwash the populace. Anyone can see this.

Oh, and by the way, have you by any chance ever heard the names Schumer, Bernanke, Leiberman, Wolfowitz, Greenspan, Emmanual, Ginsberg, Levin, Frank, etc? You have? Well, just what do these people have in common? Go on - take a guess...


I'm glad someone is brave enough to open up this can of worms. It needs to be discussed. But it's a dangerous topic. I would not recommend it in public -- you will be smeared as an anti-semite.

I'm not anti-semitic either. I am neither Christian nor Muslim. I do NOT have any bad experiences with Jews to hate them on a personal level. I do NOT think the "Jewish Conspiracy" has anything to do with the average Jew.

The "Conspiracy" started with a handful of Jews creating a (maybe the most powerful in the world) banking cartel.

The US Federal Reserve is one of their masks.

As for why the Jews control Hollywood, just look at the history of how Hollywood became the movie capital of the world. Jewish showmen/businessmen discovered the sunny weather of Hollywood -- perfect for old time movie making -- and moved their operation to Hollywood from the cold Northeast.

So these Jewish showmen/businessmen hired their Jewish relatives & Jewish friends into their movie business. And from that, it expanded & perpetuated itself over the decades.

When TV appeared as the new entertainment technology, the Hollywood movie studios could be used to make TV shows. (Look at how the old RKO movie studio was bought up by Desilu in the mid-1950's.)

The Jewish dominance of the entertainment industry was NOT the result of a conspiracy. Their dominance is the result of the fact that they got in on the ground level of the industry and managed to maintain their power. (It helps if you have powerful banks on your side too.)

As for the Jewish dominance of print (magazines, newspapers, publishing), consider that the "print" industry is unofficially headquartered in NYC, a town whose intellectual life is dominated by Jews.

Why do the Jews dominate intellectual life in NYC? It's not just their numbers -- it's their culture. Jewish culture puts enormous emphasis on the importance of intellectual achievement: hence Jewish dominance of classical music, philosophies (political & otherwise), law, medicine and other sciences (the "Professions").

So what am I saying here? Aside from the Rothchilds (who are conspiratorial), Jewish dominance of media is NOT the result of conspiracy as such (at least in the beginning). But it grew naturally and was helped by powerful banks WHO did see the incredible power of controlling the media.

So here we are in a country (US) pretty much owned & controlled by the Jews.

What can we do, except vent online (and God only knows how long that's going to last).
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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 04:07 AM
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The notion that a particular ethnic group is favored over others by God is particularly effective piece of propaganda, would you not agree? Especially if its been in print for thousands of years.

I personally think that if God exists, and he sits around and picks favorites among his creations, like Jews and the United States, then he's guilty of a few human flaws.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 04:21 AM
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Originally posted by randomname
when netanyahu can go to washington, d.c., the world capitol of freedom and democracy and get 300+ senators and congressmen to almost break their wrists applauding so hard in support of a military occupation and oppression of an innocent people, then you have to take a step back as a citizen and start to wonder what the f-ck is going on.

when netanyahu gets more standing ovations than the president of united states in his own congress, then you got to again, step back and ask wtf.

when literally, if netanyahu were to declare that he is building gas chambers and is going to rid israel of every gentile and non-jew, i think all 300+ senators and congressmen, will look at each and wonder what to do for a few seconds, then stand and clap in support because they don't to be seen on cnn as not supporting israel.

that's the state america is in.


The same banking cartel who owns the US Federal Reserve, has had a vested interest in creating & maintaining the Zionist state of Israel. Of course, Netanyahu is going to get overwhelming support from US congressmen -- they know who owns them.



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