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Some More Chemtrail/Contrail/Cloud Pics?

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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 12:23 AM
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Thanks for sharing the pics


I always enjoy it when other members share pics of trails they have seen.

I'm not sure what those spots are that showed in your pic, but good eye for spotting them.
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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 12:36 AM
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Thanks.

I have some that show a dark side. I'll see if I can't find them. I used to have hundreds of pictures of trails but my last computer crashed and I lost everything. I have since learned to back-up though...LOL

Thanks again, great post.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by firepilot

Originally posted by pagan_night
Just to toss in a question here. What is a contrail with military chaff or seeding in the trail called? Is it istill a contrail?


Its a pointless question, because neither acutally happen. Chaff is not done in large trails, its done in individual bundles and seeding goes in on altitudes far lower than where contrails occur


What is chaff used for?



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 12:39 AM
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Thanks for the inofrmation. I will check the site out.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 12:40 AM
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From what I understand, it's used by the military to "scramble" radar.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by pagan_night
reply to post by firepilot
 


Thanks for answering my questions.
Here are some more questions.
Would cloud seeding be happening at levels of clouds? And Is that too high for a cannon power shot A590 to get a clear picture of the plane? If clouds were forming, what level of humidity would be needed? Is it possible to have clouds with no humidity?


Cloud seeding, with silver iodide, targets rain/snowclouds that will have a temperature of -5 to -10c, where it is most effective. Either the flares are fired into the clouds at that altitude, or they use flares that burn for a few minutes, and circle under the clouds in an area of updrafts where it will be carried up to that altitude.

Actually for rain projects, it needs to be cumulous convective type storms, winter projects typically just seed stratus snowstorms. But both need supercooled water in below freezing conditions

To have clouds, you must have water vapor that condenses because the air can not hold more moisture. You can not have no clouds without 100 percent humidity, at that altitude. You have to have moisture, and you always have some degree of moisture in the air, the humidity just can vary.


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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 12:55 AM
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Originally posted by pagan_night
reply to post by wcitizen
 


From what I understand, it's used by the military to "scramble" radar.


Jamming will "Scramble" radar. Chaff is used to as a decoy for an incoming radar guided missile



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by pagan_night
reply to post by wcitizen
 


From what I understand, it's used by the military to "scramble" radar.


Right, so it's aluminium particulates, I believe?



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:22 AM
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Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by pagan_night
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From what I understand, it's used by the military to "scramble" radar.


Right, so it's aluminium particulates, I believe?


No, its not particles, its bundles of aluminum, or glass fibers coated with aluminum, released in individual bundles and timed to divert a radar missile.

The idea that chaff is a liquid or powder, is just misinformation spread by chemtrail promoters.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:26 AM
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Here'sa description of military chaff:




Chaff, originally called Window[1] by the British, and Düppel by the Second World War era German Luftwaffe (from the Berlin suburb it was first found near), is a radar countermeasure in which aircraft or other targets spread a cloud of small, thin pieces of aluminium, metalized glass fiber or plastic, which either appears as a cluster of secondary targets on radar screens or swamps the screen with multiple returns.

Modern armed forces use chaff (in naval applications, for instance, using short-range SRBOC rockets) to distract radar-guided missiles from their targets. Most military aircraft and warships have chaff dispensing systems for self-defense. An intercontinental ballistic missile may release in its midcourse phase several independent warheads, a large number of decoys, and chaff.

Chaff can also be used to signal distress by an aircraft when communications are not functional. This has the same effect as an SOS, and can be picked up on radar. It is done by dropping chaff every 2 minutes.
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So it seems there is a long history of releasing chaff (aluminium, metalized fiber glass and plastic) into the air.
Traditionally this has been dumpted as packages in the air.

So, now we have proof that for many years, chemicals ARE being dumped into the air by the military....
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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:28 AM
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Originally posted by pagan_night
reply to post by wcitizen
 


From what I understand, it's used by the military to "scramble" radar.


Yes, from what I've just read, that's what it is for.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:31 AM
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So, now we have proof that for many years, chemicals ARE being dumped into the air by the military

Yes. If you call pieces of metal coated fiberglass chemicals. And there is proof that cloud seeding is being done as well.
Neither of which has anything to do with the claim that persistent contrails are anything other than contrails.
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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by firepilot

Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by pagan_night
reply to post by wcitizen
 


From what I understand, it's used by the military to "scramble" radar.


Right, so it's aluminium particulates, I believe?


No, its not particles, its bundles of aluminum, or glass fibers coated with aluminum, released in individual bundles and timed to divert a radar missile.

The idea that chaff is a liquid or powder, is just misinformation spread by chemtrail promoters.


Ok. If you prefer, small pieces of alumiuium, or glass fibers coated with alumimium, or plastic. But there is evidence going back years that this is a known and used military tactic.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by wcitizen
Here'sa description of military chaff:




Chaff, originally called Window[1] by the British, and Düppel by the Second World War era German Luftwaffe (from the Berlin suburb it was first found near), is a radar countermeasure in which aircraft or other targets spread a cloud of small, thin pieces of aluminium, metalized glass fiber or plastic, which either appears as a cluster of secondary targets on radar screens or swamps the screen with multiple returns.

Modern armed forces use chaff (in naval applications, for instance, using short-range SRBOC rockets) to distract radar-guided missiles from their targets. Most military aircraft and warships have chaff dispensing systems for self-defense. An intercontinental ballistic missile may release in its midcourse phase several independent warheads, a large number of decoys, and chaff.

Chaff can also be used to signal distress by an aircraft when communications are not functional. This has the same effect as an SOS, and can be picked up on radar. It is done by dropping chaff every 2 minutes.
.



So it seems there is a long history of releasing chaff (aluminium, metalized fiber glass and plastic) into the air.
Traditionally this has been dumpted as packages in the air.

So, now we have proof that for many years, chemicals ARE being dumped into the air by the military....
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Wait, didnt that paragraph you just quoted, agree EXACTLY with what I said..about a decoy for radar guided missiles?

And no, its not "dumped". You imply that mass quantities of aluminum are now just covering the countryside. Its used in combat, and when training for combat. Do you think a B-52 or B-1B just loads up its bays full of aluminum to drop out?

What do you call it when you put chemicals into the air from your own activities? Do you have some kind of trails conspiracy attached to that?



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by wcitizen
 




So, now we have proof that for many years, chemicals ARE being dumped into the air by the military

Yes. If you call pieces of metal coated fiberglass chemicals. And there is proof that cloud seeding is being done as well.
Neither of which has anything to do with the claim that persistent contrails are anything other than contrails.
edit on 6/1/2011 by Phage because: (no reason given)



If you don't want to call them chemicals, call them foreign bodies, then.

SO quick to jump in prematurely with the standard denial. 'NO, it's not chemtrails, it's NOT chemtrails, nn, no, it's NOT chemtrails'.

So show me WHERE I said these were chemtrails? You can't because I didn't. You see, I know these aren't chemtrails, duh!

You are doing a great job of exposing exactly how your tactics work, though.





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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:47 AM
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Originally posted by firepilot

Originally posted by wcitizen
Here'sa description of military chaff:




Chaff, originally called Window[1] by the British, and Düppel by the Second World War era German Luftwaffe (from the Berlin suburb it was first found near), is a radar countermeasure in which aircraft or other targets spread a cloud of small, thin pieces of aluminium, metalized glass fiber or plastic, which either appears as a cluster of secondary targets on radar screens or swamps the screen with multiple returns.

Modern armed forces use chaff (in naval applications, for instance, using short-range SRBOC rockets) to distract radar-guided missiles from their targets. Most military aircraft and warships have chaff dispensing systems for self-defense. An intercontinental ballistic missile may release in its midcourse phase several independent warheads, a large number of decoys, and chaff.

Chaff can also be used to signal distress by an aircraft when communications are not functional. This has the same effect as an SOS, and can be picked up on radar. It is done by dropping chaff every 2 minutes.
.



So it seems there is a long history of releasing chaff (aluminium, metalized fiber glass and plastic) into the air.
Traditionally this has been dumpted as packages in the air.

So, now we have proof that for many years, chemicals ARE being dumped into the air by the military....
edit on 1-6-2011 by wcitizen because: (no reason given)


Wait, didnt that paragraph you just quoted, agree EXACTLY with what I said..about a decoy for radar guided missiles?

And no, its not "dumped". You imply that mass quantities of aluminum are now just covering the countryside. Its used in combat, and when training for combat. Do you think a B-52 or B-1B just loads up its bays full of aluminum to drop out?

What do you call it when you put chemicals into the air from your own activities? Do you have some kind of trails conspiracy attached to that?


Whoa, the troops are getting edgy.

I never implied that mass quantities of aluminium are now just covering the countryside. It's dropped in packages I believe, hence dumpted into the air. Whenever did the word 'dumped' come to mean 'mass quantities'?

fyi. Definition of 'to dump':
1. To fall or drop abruptly.
2. To discharge cargo or contents; unload


It does not have a meaning of 'mass quantities' anywhere in any definition of the term. and my use of it was perfectly appropriate.

You guys really do seem to have trouble comprehending text.

I have no idea how much of this is regularly used, but I will try to find out. I'm finding this train of thought interesting.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:51 AM
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Prime example.......


You are doing a great job of exposing exactly how your tactics work.


Yes....yes, indeed you are.

The latest *conversation* was clear as a bell. The word 'tactics' starts with a "T", also.....


THIS IS flares, and chaff being launched, dispensed:







Of course, I suppose YOU will *argue* that it is indistinguishable from a contrail, and therefore WE cannot tell the differnce???

Again your tr....tactics.....are exposed......




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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:51 AM
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Originally posted by firepilot


What do you call it when you put chemicals into the air from your own activities? Do you have some kind of trails conspiracy attached to that?


Ahem, I don't put chemicals in the sky.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by wcitizen
 


Prime example.......


You are doing a great job of exposing exactly how your tactics work.


Yes....yes, indeed you are.

The latest *conversation* was clear as a bell.



Good. Thank you for the compliment.

[qupte]

The word 'tactics' starts with a "T", also.....



And even obvious typos are now being pounced on?
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THIS IS flares, and chaff being launched, dispensed:




Of course, I suppose YOU will *argue* that it is indistinguishable from a contrail, and therefore WE cannot tell the differnce???

Again your tr....tactics.....are exposed......


Well, once again your supposition is completely wrong....on both counts. But no surprise there.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 02:12 AM
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Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by firepilot


What do you call it when you put chemicals into the air from your own activities? Do you have some kind of trails conspiracy attached to that?


Ahem, I don't put chemicals in the sky.


So you have never driven a car, or , or rode mass transit, or been in an airplane or grilled food, or started a fire, or exhaled carbon dioxide, or use electricity from coal fired power plants, or even used winter heating..

I find it hard to believe you have resulted in zero pollution with any kind of chemical.




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