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David Icke Actually Telling It Like It Is

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posted on May, 31 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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Haters gonna Hate....


Anyways, i agree with a lot David says, but not all, and i'm sure that's what a majority of his followers believe in. I've been reading his books, and his views on life are essentially the exact same as mine. Most of what he says about who is in power seems to be correct.

But i also disagree with some stuff. I'm not going to go into reptilians or anything, but i highly disagree with the premise of everything. He claims the "invaders" come from the 4th dimension and are either trying to save us or enslave us. There is evidently some magnetic prison around the world the aliens trapped us in.

I have to call BS on that. I agree in other dimensions, but that's just to far out with no evidence.

I do agree like i said earlier on many of his other topics.

Such as when he speaks about a "Karma Cloak." I've known this all along, if your in a good mood, generally the people around you are ina good mood, because you mood shapes the energy around you.
Example, if i'm playing beer pong. If i tell my partner, "you just need to envision the ball going into the cup, just believe we got this!" Sure enough, it always works, along as both people have the right mindset, along with the bystanders.
Or if you wake up, your other is in a pissy mood, generally you follow into the pissy mood.

Just my thoughts.




posted on May, 31 2011 @ 03:42 PM
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That is your opinion, and you are entitled to it.

Now, express why you think David Icke is all the nasty names you called him, back your statement up or go play elsewhere please.

Thank you.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 03:54 PM
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How many times do I need to repeat myself?

David Icke spreads false information sprinkled into mostly valid information.

He either does this knowingly or unknowingly, but he most certainly does this.

He has stated, on several occasions, that Princess Diana was killed because she was about to out the royal family as "reptilians".
This makes absolutely no sense.

Especially when one considers that she was about to vocally begin supporting the cause of the Palestinians.
And the fact that the royal family could not have one of their own engaged to an Arab.

Imagine what this would have done for support of Israel, and the occupations of both Iraq and Afghanistan.
Do you remember the Chinese Opium wars?
Between China and English aristocracy?
What does Afghanistan have that everyone seems to glaze over?

Lots and lots and lots and lots of opium.

David Icke speaks continually about 9/11, and what he says is right on, but his other rubbish discredits all of the valid information that he spews.
Only people who already agree with him will listen to what he has to say.

The people that actually NEED to hear his valid points will mentally tune out when people begin to speak on them because David Icke has tainted them with his non sense.

I like playing here BTW....



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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What makes you so sure? She apparently called them lizards and not human. And thats not Icke claiming it here.
And Credo Mutwa says she once called him, to announce something very important. Now why on earth would she call a Zulu Shaman that talks about the chitauri? I mean... im just wondering here.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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Your instinct will tell you when you find truth - if you know how to listen to it.

The number of sources and the ratio of truth to misinformation they give is not important - being able to truly know what your spirit thinks about it is what matters.
The more sources you have, the more chance you have of finding a good path.
Knowing evades those who cannot feel truth and it's easy to get lost because it's supposed to be.

edit on 31-5-2011 by trouble_every_day because: just for fun



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by Seekeye2
Go David Go - I've followed you for 20 years and have all your books - You are THE REAL DEAL and you are finally being listened too. I know your health and finances took a real bashing but hey you got back up and didn't give up and I know you never will!

Thanks for the thread OP S&F


no problem. And I thought it was a good idea to show David is not all about reptilians, but a whole3 lot more. I am so glad this thread is getting as much attention because maybe people will see now he is not a ''nutcase''.

and for the record, i used to be one of those people



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by potential_problem
I hope he is good tax payer, because it means LOADS of taxes(good for your country, i suppose).
Noone of his fanboys will be credible in my eyes EVER.
Especially on ATS.

But, guys, have a good fun.
He's just like a preacher of tech era for masses bored by Gaga.
edit on 30-5-2011 by potential_problem because: (no reason given)


This must be the lamest reply ever. At least take a look the video. Powerful message.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 04:44 PM
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The first video, very long in my last post, Jordan Maxwell was so informative, and it tied up, summed up, my info, but he didn't share hope, almost like given the assignment (and he was given this) to do the work, but no hope for the outcome. So it ended with him expressing this. Now for anyone who thinks PC is working for the man, or David Wilcock who was in the background there, you have to understand, whether you agree with them or not, support all their beliefs or not, they're being very geniune. And this video, expressed that, revealed that in the nature of each and at the end, for they all came on to give their best at reaching Jordan, giving hope, from their hearts. It was spontaneous and geniune.

The last video in my last post, was like a follow up, where David Icke, who is a friend of Jordan's, and PC, are showing that this is for a reason, being done, with those on assignment, with a purpose, with hope, not to give up on humanity and outcome.

What David brings out, I've tried to say in many different words, who are the bad guys, here in the world, the power seekers, and in the cosmos, the empire seekers/annanuki, negatives. They're operating as powerful in a tiny little box, in infinite progression, outside the television screen, the holographic school construct, as SLIVERS of their full souls, slivers of self. So in this tiny box, they're the big fish, and the only way they can be the big fish in this tiny box, is if they convince us to shut down our heart, compassion, love, progression, to stay with them.

Well, under the surface of all the sheep, the zombies, all the different negative terms they have for humanity, as if no one is aware, no one loves, but humanity each year donates more than enough money to put a huge dent into equalizing the world, and every few years, has done this, repeatedly over and over. So humanity cares in larger numbers than it doesnt care, and gives whenever they can, so Who Is Blocking This? Its not us who don't love. Even a teenager in the 7/11 was talking to me about GMO food and end time things he'd heard online and knew all about NWO and the bloodlines. He and his friends. So much for the sheep being asleep. What they mean is a certain traditional older generation that doesnt' go online.

They cannot step out of their frequency box because they have to clean up their mud spots and shine up their light more, and make ammends for the harm they've done, so in their state, the controllers can't reach the bigger outer world beyond the tiny box. But many of us can.

There is no reason to give up hope. ARK = Acts Of Random Kindness and standing in the light squares.
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posted on May, 31 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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Living in the UK I remember seeing David on TV as a sports reporter, he was a very well known "face" at the time. In fact he seemed a rather studious and boring character so for him to suddenly declare himself the new son of God was major news here at the time. A lot of people including myself thought the poor guy had gone looney tunes big time and he really wasnt helped by a TV interview in which the audience and host ripped him to shreds. And so he seemed to disappear from the scene over here. Then one evening I happened to by chance to catch a documentary about him, on Channel 5 I think it was. I thought it would be a bit of a giggle. Voyeur TV. But what I heard blew my mind. Everything he said just seemed to me to make sense.
I do however still have trouble with the reptilian aspect of his arguments. Maybe he means the reptilian mind, maybe not. Who knows. He seams to be spot on with everything else so why not this aswell? As for Diana about to be outing the royals as lizards, well they certainly weren't happy about her planned engagement to Doddi Fayed. Bumping her off for marrying a Muslim may have been an ideal cover story and all the conspiracy stories that unfolded after would have kept there real identity in the clear. Now look at the Queen and tell me you dont see just a little bit of lizard in there....



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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I REALLY wish you and I could talk one on one sometime! I will do my best to follow you here on ATS. I am new and have not quite figured out all the how to's just yet. You seem to think along the same lines as I do, although you can articulate yourself in a much better manner than I.


I have only watched a little of David's videos and will be watching more in the coming days as my interest in him has sky rocketed after reading this thread.

Love is definitely the ticket.....but how do you get more people on board without making them think you have lost your marbles or quoting from the Big Book as that doesn't seem to work either.

Also.....(for the haters) one can say the sky is falling....and it really be falling! Another person will most definitely see it for themselves and say No its not...it just looks like it is. People believe what they do not fear( my opinion).



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by seaside sky
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I got my degree in Philosophy. In college I did a special advanced study on Plato's metaphysics- in particular the forms.The intent was to make a distinction between a universal concept and the particular manifestations of it in an imperfect and complex world. It's a fascinating theory- and one that has gained a great deal of significance with the modern developments in physics.

The cave parable is one I think everyone ought to read. It's an incredible illustration not only of abstract epistemology, but, for conspiracy theorists, an excellent illustration of how the "elite" control the way the "sheeple" perceive reality. All we have to do is turn from the shadow play on the cave wall to see the sun behind us.

Please do start a thread on this subject!


with your knowledge i think you should start a thread on the theory of Forms. I would love for someone with some good background Philosophy to do it, because tbh, it is a bit hard for me to get my head around it. And yes, Plato, i feel, like Icke is today, was way ahead of his time. Plato talked about things we could argue are almost like QED before a magnifying glass was even invented!



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99

Originally posted by potential_problem
I hope he is good tax payer, because it means LOADS of taxes(good for your country, i suppose).
Noone of his fanboys will be credible in my eyes EVER.
Especially on ATS.

But, guys, have a good fun.
He's just like a preacher of tech era for masses bored by Gaga.
edit on 30-5-2011 by potential_problem because: (no reason given)


And to those with wisdom, those opposing it will never have credibility until they wake up and only support a system that does not harm others.

This man, is wonderful. And has a good handle on the overall truth, and is here waking people up to the world around them, actually doing the work his soul came to do. He' has some controversial opinions too
and for any who have actually seen whats hidden from most of you, I'm glad he speaks up!!!

So, what are you doing to help others? In the end, when you've passed over and so many have suffered so much and we all came to pass the torch and do our puzzle pieces of helping awareness when we started to notice the world was corrupt and backwards, will you have done the best you could have? Love is the other, not our own skin, and we came here to grow our Love and consciousness.


edit on 30-5-2011 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)


I owe a large portion of my "Waking up" to David Icke, Jim Marrs, and Alex Jones. Even though Jones may be a sensationalist tool, and Icke has his "reptilian" theory, they were instrumental in bringing many around to looking at the world in a different way, and removing the old paradigm from the way we think.

In my opinion, Icke is brilliant. He even pokes jokes at himself about the reptilian thing.


"When I found out about these reptilians, my first thought was WHY ME? They are going to think im bloody mad if I go spouting that the Queen is actually a lizzard. Oooooh Oooh, Queen Lizzy"!!


And Jim Marrs, when asked about Icke, responded with: (from Rule By Secrecy Lecture)

"I just didn't think the best way for me to win friends and influence people was to go around saying that the Queen of England was a 200 year old reptilian from outer space. Now that doesn't necessarily mean it isn't true - I just thought the better of saying it..."



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 04:57 PM
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Usually this guy just talks about reptoids, nice to hear some substance in what he says.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by dadgad
I don;t think Icke has made a fortune and anyone with some sense left can see this man isnt about money. He is very unique.

People that are about money live in big villa's, drive big cars, wear expensive clothes, hang out with the elite and wealthy and do not really care about anything other then their success.

This man is not about money, not about power and is not a guru that seeks followers. He is very unique.



agreed totally. Plus he would have made a hell of a lot more money doing commentary for the BBC. He took a massive gamble with his whole families financial state, and like another poster said, ofcourse he has to earn a living and selling out concert halls and books does that, does he have to live on the street like a rat just because he makes money by showing people something they have never seen before?
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posted on May, 31 2011 @ 05:08 PM
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David Icke is the leading edge of New Thinking.... the concept of advanced reptilians, like it or not, is a LEADING EDGE...

As an individual free thinker, I humbly thank Mr. Icke for establishing that leading edge of free thought... it may just be where the truth lies...




posted on May, 31 2011 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by Josephus23
reply to post by ofhumandescent
 


How many times do I need to repeat myself?

David Icke spreads false information sprinkled into mostly valid information.

He either does this knowingly or unknowingly, but he most certainly does this.

He has stated, on several occasions, that Princess Diana was killed because she was about to out the royal family as "reptilians".
This makes absolutely no sense.

Especially when one considers that she was about to vocally begin supporting the cause of the Palestinians.
And the fact that the royal family could not have one of their own engaged to an Arab.

Imagine what this would have done for support of Israel, and the occupations of both Iraq and Afghanistan.
Do you remember the Chinese Opium wars?
Between China and English aristocracy?
What does Afghanistan have that everyone seems to glaze over?

Lots and lots and lots and lots of opium.

David Icke speaks continually about 9/11, and what he says is right on, but his other rubbish discredits all of the valid information that he spews.
Only people who already agree with him will listen to what he has to say.

The people that actually NEED to hear his valid points will mentally tune out when people begin to speak on them because David Icke has tainted them with his non sense.

I like playing here BTW....


the reason you keep repeating yourself is because no one is listening or agreeing with your arguement



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 05:54 PM
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Isnt Icke's whole message about questioning the system and not always believing what we are told?

Perhaps Icke cleverly uses the ridiculous reptilian subject as a safeguard to ensure we even question his own logic, even if this is to his own detriment.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 06:05 PM
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I am afraid that I agree with him completley we are just big antenna and it is up to us to train ourselves to pick up the different vibrational frequencies of all that exists. Until you have done that as have I of course it may appear as nonsense. But I for one know that it is not. Am I crazy? No I am eccentric. Got it on a piece of paper. It reminds me of that wonderful quote. "Only fools scoff".



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 06:30 PM
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Well there are interesting differences in how David sees this and myself. I think his explaining how levels energy manifest and this cycle of highs and lows in frequency related to the galactic center is based on the Oneness. But Infinity is infinte in variety, person, place and thing, and we actually an Infinite Family of Individuals. The metaphorical dark side, draco, reptilian that is battling as Jordan Maxwell brings up, a miltiary force of fascism and suffering, is really compromised of individuals. That is where we may be differing, because this reptilian force is not just an energy manifestation of the whole on a lower frequency cycle.

They, failed in the tests of a previous universe school. The gravity/shadow side or abyss comes to mind. They are temporarily playing out the dark side until they gain access to retesting, like Ground hog day. Until they raise their love frequency and progress their consciousness and pass the tests. Now when people harm others and feel great shame at harming their family, some come to their senses relatively quickly. Others project their guilt onto their victims, and simply blame others and are angry, so they think they're in a war. A sliver of self in a holographic is at war with the Progressed expanded Family that creates the Hologram, the 99.9999999......% of the rest of their Infinite Selves. Theres no war. We're a prenatal ant at best, and that might be a promotion. Possibly, prenatal micro organism in comparison.

We're in the same tests. And its all about Love and service to others, and not harming. Not allowing starvation of billions, caring about the homeless. Caring about others. We make it very complicated, but its not that complicated.

The only thing is, we not only want to progress individually, we want the human race itself to progress, to the next level. So individual tests and class tests.



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by Digital_Reality
It blows my mind how he can talk about reptilians and shape shifting then the next minute make total sense and sound rational on another subject. I just don't know about this guy.


You know, watch some interviews with serial kilers.
Same thing, they are convincing, funny, friendly even, but psychopath is psychopath.
Period.



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