A Big List Of Suppressed Technologies Related To Energy. We Are Being Deceived Once More...

Hello all ATSers,

I've just discovered this extremely interesting PESwiki page about a list of suppressed technologies related to energy maintained by the New Energy Congress member Gary Versperman.

Here's the link.

I just reinforces my belief that science is heavily controlled and monitored by TPTB, be it oil companies, government agencies, etc. Even if 3-4 of these inventors would be proven frauds, I think the amount of evidence presented there is simply too big to ignore it.

I've done some research on some of these people, and so far, the only one that I'm not sure about his credibility and his true intentions is John Searl.

I'm sorry if this has been posted before, I didn't find it.

So enjoy the list, and remember, it's just a list. If you find a theories/inventors that pick your curiosity, I'd encourage you to research more into it, as everything listed on this website is very brief...

There are some promising new things happening like the Rossi E-Cat. There are some threads here on it. But yes free/cheap clean energy has been suppressed since the Days of Tesla who had a working model for free energy for the world until JP Morgan realized he could not put a meter on it and tried to erase Tesla from history. They almost succeeded too. it is only in the last ten or so years that Tesla has begun to get the recognition he so aptly deserves as the father of the modern electrical world.

S&F!

Anything an actual profit can be made of, you can be sure it wont be suppressed for long. Thats human nature. Thats why I quit believing in all this suppressed science stuff. The world is an extremely competitive place and if something comes along that is better, it will be used.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Anything an actual profit can be made of, you can be sure it wont be suppressed for long. Thats human nature. Thats why I quit believing in all this suppressed science stuff. The world is an extremely competitive place and if something comes along that is better, it will be used.

Profit can't be made out of free energy...

EDIT: Or should I say...the profits made with free-energy would be a tiny tiny fraction of the profits made with oil

Originally posted by Gab1159

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Anything an actual profit can be made of, you can be sure it wont be suppressed for long. Thats human nature. Thats why I quit believing in all this suppressed science stuff. The world is an extremely competitive place and if something comes along that is better, it will be used.

Profit can't be made out of free energy...

The manufacturing and maintenance of said device can, let alone a whole slew of axillary industries that would crop up. To date, not one single "free energy" (over unity) device has been demonstrated objectively under controlled conditions. Not one. All you get is the usual shady characters and the same snake oil for the gullible.

Originally posted by Gab1159

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Anything an actual profit can be made of, you can be sure it wont be suppressed for long. Thats human nature. Thats why I quit believing in all this suppressed science stuff. The world is an extremely competitive place and if something comes along that is better, it will be used.

Profit can't be made out of free energy...

These generators wouldn't need building or maintaining? Theres no profit in me selling you something that could eliminate your energy bill?

reply to post by john_bmth


Yes, you are right about the profit that can be made with free-energy. But really, this profit is so small compared to the oil profit...I don't think energy companies (oil companies...really) are ready to give up their black gold. Much of our economic system is based on energy (oil). It would be far less profitable for energy companies to maintain our devices than to make us pay 60$ dollars a week for gas!

As for the peer-reviewed demonstration...I don't give a crap anymore about that. I mean, if a technology is being suppressed, there's obviously no way it's gonna successfully get peer-reviewed, mostly because these scientific journals and organisations are controlled by the same shrimps that are suppressing these "free-energy" technologies. There's only one free-energy technology that I know of that is getting attention in the mainstream scientific community, which is Victor I. Klimov's work (Here's a bit of an introduction, if you will)

Besides, this energy technologies list is not just about free-energy, but about quasi-infinite energy and highly efficient technologies as well.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Anything an actual profit can be made of, you can be sure it wont be suppressed for long. Thats human nature. Thats why I quit believing in all this suppressed science stuff. The world is an extremely competitive place and if something comes along that is better, it will be used.

It's not a matter of belief it is a matter of facts. A simple study of the history of Tesla and how JP Morgan tried to erase him from history and stole the future of free abundant electricity from us will dispel any false belief.

I just reinforces my belief that science is heavily controlled and monitored by TPTB, be it oil companies, government agencies, etc. Even if 3-4 of these inventors would be proven frauds, I think the amount of evidence presented there is simply too big to ignore it.

People who make such statements know nothing of science, scientific method or how scientific findings get published. Not only that, but we're not talking about "3-4 proven frauds", they're ALL frauds, or at best delusional (like our friend on this very site who sincerely believes he has invented a working time machine, ant-gravity device and free energy device, as well as other unsubstantiated claims). Cranks and fraudsters whose motives range from misguided to down-right nefarious (and you have the cheek to call 'science' the big bad guy).

Originally posted by john_bmth

I just reinforces my belief that science is heavily controlled and monitored by TPTB, be it oil companies, government agencies, etc. Even if 3-4 of these inventors would be proven frauds, I think the amount of evidence presented there is simply too big to ignore it.

People who make such statements know nothing of science, scientific method or how scientific findings get published. Not only that, but we're not talking about "3-4 proven frauds", they're ALL frauds, or at best delusional (like our friend on this very site who sincerely believes he has invented a working time machine, ant-gravity device and free energy device, as well as other unsubstantiated claims). Cranks and fraudsters whose motives range from misguided to down-right nefarious (and you have the cheek to call 'science' the big bad guy).

I'm sorry, but I don't want to get into this kind of debate. Instead of attacking my alleged lack of knowledge, can you please attack the facts/evidence presented in the link? I really don't like it when people such as you take debates to a personal level. Ok, maybe I know nothing about science, scientific methods or how scientific findings get published, but that doesn't change the article I have posted...which is the core of my thread.

And since you're making such a bold claim (they're all frauds, cranks and so on), I'd like you to post some evidence to support it...

Free energy devices and scientific discovery on how to extract this energy are nothing new here is a list of working devices and proof of concept experiments, some working but then seem to disappear or fade into obscurity:

There is enough energy inside the space in this empty cup to
boil all the oceans of the world. This is a fact well known to
the scientific community, and was, for example, a favorite
quote of Nobel Prize winning physicist Richard Feynman.
www.cheniere.org...



Two Nobel prizes were awarded in 1957 to Lee and Yang for
substantiating the extraction process for this energy.
www.cheniere.org...

U.S. Navy, General Electric and Stanford University used free energy system in 1930s. Network Analyzer was completely self-powered by Negative Resistors

GE's Gabriel Kron, Chief Engineer on the project www.cheniere.org...

Westinghouse patented overunity process on Minuteman missile in 1960s
www.cheniere.org...

Dr. T. Henry Moray
55,000 watts from the vacuum in 1930's
Patent applications “lost” by U.S. Patent Office.
US Air Force funded, then sabotaged, mid-1970s replication program.
www.cheniere.org...
www.cheniere.org...

Oh really? Why then has China just pledged to train ~2,000 new nuclear experts in the hope of discovering fusion?

What about the International Thermonuclear Experimental reactor? Currently the largest project pursuing magnetic approach. The project has a price tag of at least $21 billion and involves hundreds of scientists from China, the European Union, Japan, India, Korea, Russia and the United States.

My thread:
China cranks up heat on nuclear fusion

Original article:
Source

Another article on the topic:
ITER and JET try to make fusion a reality

Despite what a lot of people think, institutions the world over are racing to find some way to commercialise technology that seems too good to be true: cheap, almost unlimited power with no harmful emissions

Of course it is heavily controlled. An easy way to tell, is to read a history book. Think about it. How long has the internet been around? Since the 1960's. Yep. The 1960's was where the origins of the internet can be found.

When did the average man gain access to the world wide web? the early to mid 90's. Though yes, I know that quite a few computer geeks could get on it back in the 80's.... Either way though...

That's about 30 years. Or how about computers in general?

There are countless similar examples that suggests the government keeps it self about 30 years ahead of the people, technologically.

So it seems that what we have now, they had access to a good 20-30 years before us.

I also remember seeing a thread in which it was suggested that the ipad has been around in the government for about 30 years... Though they just called it a tablet, or something like that.

Yeah, they withhold technology, to keep themselves ahead of the curve.

I always thought it was beyond obvious. It never seemed like a deception to me, considering they never really tried to hide the fact that they are keeping us in the dark.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Anything an actual profit can be made of, you can be sure it wont be suppressed for long.

This might be logical in some circumstances but it would be naive to think this is always true.

Technology can destabilize economic markets; the people in firm control of those markets would like to keep things as they are.

Why risk losing control?

reply to post by Griffo


Because they have to find more conventional form of energy since those really exotic ones (such as "energy from the vacuum" posted by Hawkiye) are suppressed. There are several reports from military officials stating the military complex has been using free-energy in some of the most top-secret bases. What is the purpose of investing billions of dollars in technology research when we have discovered free-energy, you ask? Good question, the answer is not easily found. We can only speculate at this one, but there must be a reason, right? Maybe they are trying to produce new forms of energy in which they could make a reasonable amount of profit? I don't know...just speculating here...but there has to be a good reason. Anyways, if you look at the link about Victor Klimov I posted in one of my comments, you'll see that energy from the vacuum is possible, exploitable, and that we have ways of exploiting it RIGHT NOW as we speak.

Originally posted by Gab1159


I'm sorry, but I don't want to get into this kind of debate. Instead of attacking my alleged lack of knowledge, can you please attack the facts/evidence presented in the link?

There are no facts or evidence in your links. That is precisely my point!

I really don't like it when people such as you take debates to a personal level. Ok, maybe I know nothing about science, scientific methods or how scientific findings get published, but that doesn't change the article I have posted...which is the core of my thread.

Calling you ignorant about science isn't an insult, it's a fact (and one by your own admission). I'm ignorant about fine art, wine, cars, embroidery, animal husbandry and so on. Calling me ignorant about such matters is not bringing things down to a personal level, it's a fair statement.

Edit: Reading back, I didn't even call you ignorant, I said you knew nothing about science, something you have actually admitted

reply to post by Skyfloating


Couldn't disagree more. Look at all the technology the Armed Forces and NASA has decades prior to civillians getting it. (Cellular, satalite, computer, fiberoptic, flir, night-vision, laser, and even Temperpedic foam just to name a few. The Army has crafts that can go over all terrain, through the water and hover. Tell me why these aren't replacing automobiles. I know I want one. Fact is technology is surpressed. It is human nature to invent and to innovate, and if given knowledge we can accomplish at a very rapid rate. Too rapid for the likes of some. Think about cell phones. The cell companies already know what they will be coming out with and selling ten years from now, but instead of coming out with the products of all products now, they want you to buy something that is just a little better than the last over and over. Go check out 2001: A Space Odyssey. The dude is watching a news broadcast on a freakin IPad! Tell me why this was "invented" 45 years ago and they are just coming out with it. Why didn't the first IPad at least come out the same time as the first laptop or even prior. They want you to keep buying.

Originally posted by hawkiye

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Anything an actual profit can be made of, you can be sure it wont be suppressed for long. Thats human nature. Thats why I quit believing in all this suppressed science stuff. The world is an extremely competitive place and if something comes along that is better, it will be used.

It's not a matter of belief it is a matter of facts. A simple study of the history of Tesla and how JP Morgan tried to erase him from history and stole the future of free abundant electricity from us will dispel any false belief.

edit on 30-5-2011 by hawkiye because: (no reason given)

So the question is: If Tesla created or demonstrated something, we should be able to duplicate or recreate it. Why don't we? What is this technology and why can't someone build it or send the diagrams/schematics/step by step instructions for making it to everyone?

reply to post by Gab1159

Nice find, thanks! As mentioned, profits and control are in play here, as always. I found this layout once, and it describes the factors involved with 'revolutionary' tech, that may encourage abandonment of so many current oil dependent systems. I can understand how the implementation of something may/should take time, but to disappear all together only feeds the suspicion of suppressed tech.

SOME REASONS FOR OVER-UNITY SUPPRESSION

1. The strong oil lobby has throughout recent history suppressed high mileage carburetors through
violent threats or rigid mandates. Their tremendous investments in oil fields, refineries and distribution
systems wields a big stick against free energy, over-unity systems. (They have to be informed, and it will
take tens of years to implement this technology.) They can be a major player in this revolution.

2. Some have said the world is on the "brink of financial collapse." And work of revolutionary
breakthroughs in the energy production or distribution system could cause economic upheavals in our
economic system which is based on finite sources of money and energy. The powers that be can control
the masses by controlling the energy supply. They don't want to lose that control

3. As Einstein stated, "Great ideas often receive violent opposition from mediocre minds." Egos of
competing companies, or establishment views that this technology is a hoax or preposterous can also
create these violent oppositions.

4. The unenviable tasks of adding to or changing some of the laws of classical physics and chemistry will
take vast amounts of research time before verification of these new discoveries can be made by the ivory-
tower university types.

5. People in power (academic, political, technological, or business) do not like revolutionary changes
which might threaten their position or standing.

6. Ignorance and indifference by the masses in this materialistic uninformed age about the state of the
earth's delicate ecosystem and the effects of pollutants on human, plant and animal life.

7. National Security: This technology used in a war would be a decided advantage. The major could war is over.
Let's help financial independence of the masses and save Mother Earth.

8. Galactic Security: Over-unity magnetic technology is related to anti-gravity, space, time warping
(unified field theory), and Area 51 Top Secret technology. The Galactic Cold War has begun.
www.byronwine.com...

Peace,
spec

reply to post by john_bmth


This is exactly what I meant when I said I did not want to get involved in such a debate. My link shows plenty of evidence, or at least, plenty of links where you can go and find all the evidence you need. You can choose to ignore them, but as I said in my OP, I encourage you to further your research. The page I linked is very brief but I have made some research on some of these people. If you want some clear evidence (I'm hesitating whether this is a fact or not...), just visit this link here, which is one of the people mentioned in my OP's link: peswiki.com...:LRP:Victor_I._Klimov_-_%22Energy_From_The_Vacuum%22_-_Verification

You still did not prove me how they were all pranksters...

EDIT: No, I didn't agree with you. I was just saying that even IF I didn't have a whole lot of knowledge about science, that wouldn't change the info in my link. IF is the keyword here!