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Says who? And what makes those values exclusively Christian?
Originally posted by dontreally
This country was founded on Christian values
"Israel's continued control and colonization of Palestinian land have been the primary obstacles to a comprehensive peace agreement in the Holy Land"
Is just a statement of fact, Israel has continued to colonise land that isnt theirs. From the get go when they were GIVEN the land by the British who had no right to do so in the first place they have been unfair towards the people who had been there for generations. You would assume a people who had no home and been persecuted for 2000 years would be a tiny bit more sympathetic. Prior to the creation of Israel from what I can gather Jews and Muslims lived side by side without any issues.
As for an anti Jewish agenda in the world I personally see the exact opposite, many people including myself are anti Zionist but I have nothing against Jews, true I dont know many but the few I have met or worked with seemed fine with the exception of orthodox Jews who do believe they are better than everyone else due to the fact they have a shem soul and we dont which puts us on a level just above animals. (for many months I worked in an area of Melbourne called Caulfield which is predominately Jewish and had the opportunity to speak to many)
And as for the Elite arent they all Jewish????
Who controls the Money? Who controls the media? you have those 2 things in your power everything else is pretty much yours. For me the only question is were these people just lucky and good at business or is there some conspiracy that these people are engaged in?
First of all. They werent there for generations. If you respect the reports of the land - by Mark Twain in his "innocents abroad" you will read that the land was mostly desolate, barren and being kept in poor condition by the ruling turks.
Second, most of the Arabs that today call themselves "palestinians" came in during the campaigns of Mohommad Ali in the 19th century. The rest came after Jewish immigration brought prosperity to the area; a natural result of Jewish investment
So, contrary to popular opinion being shovelled in our mouths on CNN and BBC
very few Arab Palestinians constitute being there "for generations". These are the facts. Read Joan Peters "From Time Immemorial" Which goes through the extant British documents and other reports from the time. It is all fact. This book has long aog disproved every myth about the Palestinian situation. Now, the only reason why it hasnt taken hold, is because it is not politically desirable. The Israel/Palestinian debacle is a textbook example of 'newsspeak' and doublethink. Myth has been created precisely according to the theorem presented by orwell in 1984.
Now, somehow in your twisted little mind, being anti-zionist isnt being anti-Jewish? That doesnt make a shred of sense. So, not allowing the Jews to establish a state in their ancient Jewish homeland, but granting Arabs their 22 state, the 2nd in Palestine (since Jordan was originally apart of the Palestinian mandate. 80% was given to Arabs from the Hedjaz as a gift from the British for their support during WW1) is ok
And you have the temerity to say the Jews are the "colonialists". Are you #ing serious? The Arabs here are akin to the Soviet Union; they have dominated everywhere they have went and destroyed cultures and religions. Do the Berbers - North Africans, have a state? NO! They dont. Its actually illegal in North African countries to give your child a traditonal Berber name. Only arab names. Only Arab culture is allowed to thrive. Or what about the Kurds; who besides the Jews, and natives have been treated most unjustly. Do they have a state? Is there a kurdistan? No. There isnt. There SHOULD BE, since they too are a people, and kurdistan if it did exist would include large parts of southeast Turkey, Northeastern syria, northern Iraq and Eastern Iran. But they like the Berbers, and Jews have been stiffed by the Europeans and their Arab cronies.
So, excuse me for looking at the situation from a larger, politically correct perspective. The Arabs dont deserve a state
and indeed the belfour declaration made the Jordan river the demarcation line between the Arab and Jewish state
And what exactly is a shem soul? Orthodox Judaism differentiates Jews and non Jews as simply; people who have direction - Torah means instruction - and those who do not. So only in that sense do they walk 'aimlessly' like animals. In terms of spiritual capabilities, they are the same. And those who follow the 7 laws of Noach - are considered in the same category as religious Jews - those with direction
I am friends with many and i have never been treated as a 'grade above animals".
Now youre just being a racist bigot
Lets go beyond the last 300 years for a second. Who were the elite before international banking
The Capetians rule today through the house of borbon, who rule spain, luxembourg and some other countries
These people werent and never were Jews; and infact they like their forebearers have continued the ancient dispute between the Pagan Greek world and the biblical Jewish/Christian world. So, if your natural enemies are Jews, wouldnt it be ingenuious to put Jews in notable positions of financial power? Or to start a whole propaganda industry - hollywood - with them as its creators? It would be ingenious, and hard to see past too. But could they find Jews willing to do rthat? to betray their own people? See. Being ignorant makes this situation so confusing for you.
Jerusalem was getting along just fine with all religious groups represented and happy and if the people outside the cities chose to live nomadic lifestyles who ae we to judge them.
So let me get this straight, you think that the pagan ruling elite set up a bunch of Jews in positions of incomprehensible power and influence to discredit them
Jerusalem has had a majority Jewish population since 1840. And since Jerusalem has always been sacred to the Jews, and of only nominal significance to Muslims (just the third holiest site, and infact, when praying towards mecca, their backs face Jerusalem.... so much for this place having meaning to them. But, if you want to grant them some connection to it, it is much less in comparison with Jews - who pray three times a day towards Jerusalem, or psalms 137 "if i forget thee, Jerusalem, may my right hand forget its cunning") It is only right that Jerusalem be considered the capital of the Jewish state - unified.
Huh? Read over your obnoxious rantings before you post them. This for instance makes no sense. No. Not to discredit them, but to CREATE THE PERCEPTION, in the minds of ignoramuses, like yourself, that all the power is in the hands of Jews.
Also, i go to school for Political philosohpy and science, at the University of Toronto. Alright? You and I both know i dont come across as a simpleton; not with all the information i load each of my posts with.
all the elites are Jews", is simply, and patently, untrue. That is a simply pure anti-semitism. Not even the most credible Anti-Zionist would be stupid enough to make that claim.
Are the Bushes Jewish? Are any leaders of state - in Europe - Jewish? Are all bankers Jewish? Are the Chinese, Jewish? Are the leaders of the Arab League Jewish? Do you see how incredibly dumb that statement of yours is now? There are other powers in the world besides "Jews". And they possess raw resources, a brain, and thus an ability to make use of the leverage they possess without being swindled by Jews.
And as for your idea of Monarchies not possessing powers anymore; so you honestly believe the aristocrats - which means "the rule of the best" ie; the most enlightened, just 'gave up their power' ? Do find them to be that stupid? Of course you do. You dont know enough to think differently.
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by buster2010
But leave the Jews alone. Give them the dignity - the state - they deserve.
Q3) who said all the worlds elite are Jews?
who said all the worlds elite are Jews?
None of those people you mentioned to my knowledge are Jewish and yet they are all slaves to the Financial system that you agree is run by Jews.
Q4) in a simple yes or no statement do you believe/acknowledge that the worlds finances and media are run by Jews and as a result if they chose they could manipulate events to their benefit? hypothetically of course
No I dont think they gave up their power I think it was gradually taken away from them by people realising that much power and influence over their lives didnt belong in the hands of a few Elite. They either told them so with their voices or their weapons and over time it was gradually weakened till we have today where the power of monarchies is almost non existant and they are basically traditional patriotic figureheads.
Q5) what country are you from and what part?
Q6) what if any are your religious affiliations?
Q7) did you bother to check out the website I linked for you?