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Topic started on 30-5-2011 @ 12:10 PM by Billmeister

CIA Warns Of A Greek Military Coup, Rebellion, If Austerity Intensifies

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"According to the CIA report, ongoing street protests in crisis-hit Greece could turn into escalated violence and a rebellion and the Greek government could lose control, said Bild. The newspaper said the CIA report talks of a possible military coup if the situation becomes more serious and uncontrolled."

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reply posted on 30-5-2011 @ 12:10 PM by Billmeister

I believe that this is just the beginning of what is to become a quasi international movement, as citizens realize that the central and private bankers of the world have been working together to transfer massive amounts of wealth from taxpayers to themselves.

The so-called "austerity measures" appears to be the drop that has the barrels overflowing. People, who are busy doing the essentials of living (i.e. working to feed and house themselves and their families) are able to ignore much corruption and a lack of ethics from the so-called "elite".

BUT, whenever a citizen's pocket book gets attacked, or worse yet, the possibility of working to feed and house their families, the streets are bound to start filling up with angry people demanding change.

What will be interesting to follow, if these demonstrations intensify and spread, is whether these countries will react like Tunisia and Egypt, or fight back tooth and nail against their citizens like Saudi Arabia and Bahrain?

the Billmeister

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reply posted on 30-5-2011 @ 12:15 PM by Fractured.Facade

Originally posted by Billmeister

"According to the CIA report, ongoing street protests in crisis-hit Greece could turn into escalated violence and a rebellion and the Greek government could lose control, said Bild. The newspaper said the CIA report talks of a possible military coup if the situation becomes more serious and uncontrolled."

Brilliant, geniuses at the CIA, can spend millions on this to ultimately tell the world something everyone not living under a rock in the south american rain-forest already knows.

But they can't break up a plot to attack the USA, UK and Israel?

reply posted on 30-5-2011 @ 12:27 PM by Konstantinos

I sincerely doubt a military coup would happen in Greece.
Keep in mind, they're still very bitter over the Amry Junta that was in power in the 70's and the violent end to it, and would never welcome the military into the streets again.
From my perspective, having lived in Greece and still having family there, I can assure you the reasons for most of the issues there is that the black market is so prevalent. I'm talking to the point where even lawyers and doctors ask thier clients for cash under the table instead of putting anything on the books, so the country is hardly collecting any taxes. Couple that with the deep corruption both in the public and private sectors, you have a perfect recipe for an economic melt-down, especially when they introduced the Euro and almost every product increased five-fold in price.

It's a sad situation, either a revolution, or external interference will be needed, either option is bad news for Greece and the EU.

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reply posted on 30-5-2011 @ 12:44 PM by Billmeister

reply to post by Konstantinos

Thanks for the post, it is always good to hear from someone who lived in the countries involved in discussions.

A military coup is usually set up by the officer class not getting the salaries they think they deserve, so, if the "austerity measures" start to affect their bank accounts negatively, perhaps they will start to use the tools that the state gives them control of, to try and rectify the situation.

The black-market economy is a very interesting point. If the money does exist, only it does not appear on the books, perhaps the actual financial situation of Greece is not as dire as it may first appear.

I must admit to being somewhat on the fence about "under the table" transactions, the way I see it, the governments and banks are transferring tax revenue to their own personal banks accounts, so if there is a way to try and keep some out of their hands, I say go for it!

the Billmeister

reply posted on 30-5-2011 @ 12:52 PM by Konstantinos

reply to post by Billmeister

Hey Bill, re black market thing, you're spot on. That's exactly what the people in Greece feel as well. The system has been like that for well over 30 years now though, so now the government thinks the country is broke.
They know about the black market, but there's not much they can do about it.

As for a military coup, since there is still cumpulsory military service in Greece, I don't see them taking such a drastic action. The most they can do is join the protests in plain clothes IMO, even the passive citizens would get all fired up if they saw camo fatigues and tanks in the streets of Athens again.

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reply posted on 30-5-2011 @ 03:56 PM by Agent_USA_Supporter

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What would you except from the falling empire of the euporean union, Euporean union was created by the elites members of society to counter and blockade Russia, preventing Russias spread of influence, in which i call this the Blue Iron curtain.

schools-wikipedia.org...

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reply posted on 30-5-2011 @ 10:19 PM by incrediblelousminds

How does this relate to the IMF's recent and ongoing rulings in regard to Greece's debt and the regime change within the IMF in favor of a Dollar-friendly managing director?

Was DSK removed from his post to cause unrest in Greece?

www.imf.org...

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reply posted on 30-5-2011 @ 10:26 PM by babybunnies

There have been massive protests in Greece this weekend, that barely got a passing mention on BBC World Service, and didn't even get an honorary mention on North American news websites or on the major US networks (any of them, MSM or otherwise).

Greek Austerity measures have been deep and imposing, as have austerity measures in other countries in Europe such as Spain, Portugal and the UK.

Similar austerity measures will kick in sooner or later in the USA, meaning Government cutbacks on a massive scale across the board, combined with tax increases to reduce or eliminate the deficit and debt.

It's not a matter of IF they take place, but WHEN.

Meanwhile, the Republicans oppose any form of tax increase, while the Democrats oppose any sort of decrease in entitlement spending. Until both parties agree that BOTH have to happen, and soon, the USA will continue its downward economic spiral.

reply posted on 31-5-2011 @ 07:36 AM by Billmeister

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In my humble opinion, the elephant in the room which is never mentioned, is "why does a country pay interest on money it borrows from its own national bank?"**
The payment of this interest makes up a large percentage of a countries budget, while having no benefit whatsoever for society. Of course, the banks who collect the payments are quite happy to do so.

The Euro was doomed to fail from its inception, and it is all about the importance regional control over interest rates for a fiat currency. The economic realities of Germany and Portugal (for example) are so vastly different, that a hike in interest rates is needed to control inflation in one country while a reduction of the rate would be needed in the other.

Unless, of course, the plan was for the international banking cartel to slowly hijack the economies of these countries, take control of their national wealth, transfer this control and wealth out of the citizen's hands and into their own. In which case, they have done surprisingly well.

I'm sure that the "developing" countries of South America and Africa have been waving the warning flags for a while now.

the Billmeister

** The traditional explanation is that printing money causes inflation. Yes, but money does not have to be printed to be created, and in the case of T-Bonds and foreign investment (for example) people are not arriving with suitcases full of physical cash to acquire them. It comes from private banks who create money from debt, thus increasing the money supply in the same way the printing press would. Once again, the banks are quite happy to take the payments and the citizen is left with the bill for interest payments which is neither an investment in useful goods or services!

reply posted on 31-5-2011 @ 08:36 AM by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by babybunnies

Meanwhile, the Republicans oppose any form of tax increase, while the Democrats oppose any sort of decrease in entitlement spending.

That last statement is incorrect. Democrats have offered to cut several 'entitlement programs' recently. Hell, so-called "obamacare' cuts billions from medicare alone.

graphics8.nytimes.com...

www.thewashingtoncurrent.com...

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reply posted on 1-6-2011 @ 02:25 AM by Agent_USA_Supporter

sadly a military coup will happen Austerityis is been forced upon the Europeans.

reply posted on 1-6-2011 @ 02:44 AM by Britguy

As these protests ramp up in Greece and elsewhere, our own governments are doing their best to hide if from the people. Case in point, I was visiting family at the weekend and when I mentioned the massive protests in Spain I got blank looks. They had not heard about any of it, but that's no surprise given the censorship of news here in the UK recently. On the Monday evening news, I switched on and once again they were already discussing the alleged FIFA corruption.... so I went outside for a cigarette. When I came back they were still discussing it, so I switched to Sky News...same thing....BBC News24...same thing etc...etc.... Seriously, with everything that is happening around the world, they oddly devote nearly the whole programme slot to report on a matter that affects nobody outside of FIFA, is well known about anyway and trivial. So, by filling the news with pointless pulp, what are they not reporting? Well, I think we can all see elsewhere the NEWS they refuse to report, lest us serfs get any ideas!

So, back to Greece, I am surprised the government has not been thrown out already. When the EU leeches and IMF step in and start offering the usual bailout packages, with strings attached - privatisation of services, large interest rates etc in fact, full control by Brussels and the bankers, then sure, the people are naturally gonna be upset. As more and more people across Europe protest at being financially butt raped by the bankers, the likes of the BBC and Sky News are going to find it increasingly difficult to hide it from the people.

reply posted on 1-6-2011 @ 10:59 AM by Konstantinos

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The issue in Greece right now is that they currently have a Socialist government, if they were to throw them out their only other options would be New Democracy (Conservatives), KKE (Communists), or LAOS (Religious Nationalists).

New Democracy would probably clamp down even more on asuterity measures. The Communists would throw out all private enterprise (and would probably threaten Greece's EU membership) and LAOS is too young of a party and their ideology is in question (concerns of racism & xenophobia).

So, the alternatives to PASOK (Current Socialist Party in power) are not very attractive to the Greeks....

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reply posted on 1-6-2011 @ 02:21 PM by Agent_USA_Supporter

reply to post by Konstantinos

New Democracy would probably clamp down even more on asuterity measures. The Communists would throw out all private enterprise (and would probably threaten Greece's EU membership) and LAOS is too young of a party and their ideology is in question (concerns of racism & xenophobia

So what if they threaten Greece's EU membership? Greece should get out of the falling empire euporean union, if you greeks know whats better, for there is nothing at all for greeks to be in union rather then been slaves to the elites,IMF and america.

The issue in Greece right now is that they currently have a Socialist government, if they were to throw them out their only other options would be New Democracy (Conservatives), KKE (Communists), or LAOS (Religious Nationalists).

The Two party system never worked and never works, if you vote for the neo cons they will be the same as the Socialists, but in reality your votes never matters and it isnt counted.

Just look at spain.

So, the alternatives to PASOK (Current Socialist Party in power) are not very attractive to the Greeks....

I would disagree with that

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reply posted on 1-6-2011 @ 03:38 PM by Konstantinos

reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter

Respectfully, a pic of communists on the Acropolis is hardly evidence of an attractive alternative to democracy in Greece.
In the last election the communists only got 7.5% of the final vote count. The Socialists 44% and the Conservatives 24% with the rest going to the minor parties.

It would be strange to have the birthplace of Democracy under Communist rule, no?