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Proof that C/2010 X1 is not a Comet as US Govt/NASA states, but is something extremley larger in mas

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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 12:36 AM
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Lens flares. Look at 2:25....on the right, a roughly diamond-shaped white, translucent blob. MORE lens flare. Look how the various flares shift around as the (maybe) the Moon, that is what it might be, or a bright planet. I will check my Stellarium.

After watching all the way...see the Sun next..

One or two brighter spots are quite often from the internal reflections that can occur in the camera itself....knowing the exact make and model of camera, a person familiar with its characteristics could say with more detail.

The flares are very more obvious, when it's the Sun coming up. They stop filming, then....to protect the camera from damage.

(Earlier, I had guessed they used a filter, do dim the sunlight a bit....and, didn't know th lens focal length......)


OK...back. Stellarium, showed everything.

It was the Moon first....with Jupiter.

Then, just before the Sun, you briefly could see Mars, Venus and Mercury rise, in that order...(the bright Sun quickly makes them invisible)......they are all grouped together, at that angle, they appear to be "stacked" one atop the other.

We are viewing them at about a 90° angle....tilt the top of your head to North, to the right, to visualize the plane of the ecliptic as it should appear.

That YouTube author, and of course, "BIN", are lying and bogus sources....

Get Stellarium, for yourself, if you want to see, and learn. They (the Observatory) probably took that time-lapse BECAUSE of the planets, all rising together like that.


www.stellarium.org... It is FREE!!!



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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 03:29 AM
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WoW!!! THIS IS NOT DENYING IGNORANCE, THIS IS DENYING CIVILITY

GOLD LEVEL CONTRIBUTOR


To quote my favorite Guy Ritchie movie which in my stupid dumb NON-GOLD Opinion is way more understandable than the vicious assaults on the OP:


Chill Winston


I like that OP's ideas are being discussed and see no reason to assault him for asking questions.

Anyone would be foolish to claim they have all the answers to this strange & intriguing topic.

You have stated many times that using the word PROOF in the title was not to your liking, DULY NOTED: soooo, why the continued lambasting?

WeedWhacker, How many different way do you have to ask the same question or state your own opinion to be considered GOLD?

OP Please continue your research and try to ignore the Denying of the DENY IGNORANCE.

Anyone posting that there are not unanswered questions regarding this topic are every negative word in this thread that has already been attributed to you.

I guess my only question to ask in this thread is:



What's Worse, Spreading FEAR or Spreading HATE?


Star & Flag for your OP.

Warmest Regards,

t



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 03:31 AM
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Originally posted by EyeHeartBigfoot
reply to post by weedwhacker
 


WoW!!! THIS IS NOT DENYING IGNORANCE, THIS IS DENYING CIVILITY

GOLD LEVEL CONTRIBUTOR


To quote my favorite Guy Ritchie movie which in my stupid dumb NON-GOLD Opinion is way more understandable than the vicious assaults on the OP:


Chill Winston


I like that OP's ideas are being discussed and see no reason to assault him for asking questions.

Anyone would be foolish to claim they have all the answers to this strange & intriguing topic.

You have stated many times that using the word PROOF in the title was not to your liking, DULY NOTED: soooo, why the continued lambasting?

WeedWhacker, How many different way do you have to ask the same question or state your own opinion to be considered GOLD?

OP Please continue your research and try to ignore the Denying of the DENY IGNORANCE.

Anyone posting that there are not unanswered questions regarding this topic are every negative word in this thread that has already been attributed to you.

I guess my only question to ask in this thread is:



What's Worse, Spreading FEAR or Spreading HATE?


Star & Flag for your OP.

Warmest Regards,

t


OP Please continue your research.

The MANY Flags show you have some peoples attention.

Again, Thank You.

I really hope you are wrong but I see no harm in looking further into this subject.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 04:38 AM
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Another pointless scare mongering thread about C/2010 X1 Elenin. This is a normal comet, on a normal, highly elliptical solar orbit. It is nothing more than a lump of rock and ice only a few kilometres in diameter. If it was a brown dwarf, it would be EASILY visible to the naked eye, and its gravity would be causing utter chaos in the inner solar system. The fact that no such object has been seen, and no anomalous gravitational perturbations have been detected, indicates quite clearly that the brown dwarf theory is absolute nonsense.

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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 07:12 AM
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I already stated in a video the fact that this "comet" is only visible in the infrared. Sorry for the ADHD folks who only look at the first sentence of posts.


Oh, I see. I guess your unsupported statement on a YouTube video trumps these astrophotographs taken in visible light by actual astronomers:



www.amication.de...
www.aerith.net...

Where is your source for the statement that Brown Dwarf stars absorb light?



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 07:15 AM
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OMG! Are you serious? Who said what you are saying was said? It's a trajectory of a brown dwarf star whose orbit seem to be on the same trajectory as the long-awaited Nibiru/Planet X.


Please post an illustration of the orbit of your "long awaited Planet X," so we can compare it to the orbit of the comet. Your unsupported assertions are making you look desperate.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 08:42 AM
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Here one thought of Planet X's trajectory:

www.youtube.com...



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 08:53 AM
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Here one thought of Planet X's trajectory:


Could you please explain what is going on in that video and what it has to do with either Comet Elenin or "Planet X?"



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 09:56 AM
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You can't trust YouTube videos of Universe Sandbox simulations. The user can change all kinds of parameters, including an object's mass. This means that Comet Elenin (or any other object) could be given the mass of a STAR! Very useful for die hard Nibiru believers, but utterly meaningless as far as the real world is concerned.
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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 10:07 AM
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You are missing an axis.....



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 10:58 AM
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EXCUSE ME?


WoW!!! THIS IS NOT DENYING IGNORANCE, THIS IS DENYING CIVILITY



That post, that you replied to??? So, you saw fit to make such an annoying reply on THAT post of mine? And, you dared to call ME "uncivil"????

"WoW!!!", indeed...............................





BTW....this thread, like all of the others on the subject of Comet Elenin, is demonstrably false. It flies in the face of science, physics and logic. It is a fantasy, and is a disservice to thinking, educated people everywhere.



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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 11:12 AM
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I really think we should all ignore WEEDWHAKER. All he does is discredit our data and evidence on this and other threads. I have never seen him agree with anyone that starts a thread based on the lies of our Government. So let's just ignore him and maybe he'll go away?
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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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I really think we should all ignore WEEDWHAKER. All he does is discredit our data and evidence on this and other threads. I have never seen him agree with anyone that starts a thread based on the lies of our Government. So let's just ignore him and maybe he'll go away?


If your data can be discredited, it must not be very good data. Rather than ignore him, understand his criticism and improve your theory. ATS does not exist to hold your hand, it exists to deny ignorance.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 11:57 AM
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I will improve my data when the time comes. I can't provide anymore data until more significant alignments occur. So be patient and I assure you, I will provide accurate data, along with snapshots of the alignments with snapshots of the seismic data so you all don't think I'm full of BS.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 12:01 PM
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I will improve my data when the time comes. I can't provide anymore data until more significant alignments occur. So be patient and I assure you, I will provide accurate data, along with snapshots of the alignments with snapshots of the seismic data so you all don't think I'm full of BS.


You might also want to use various programs for plotting your alignments to confirm that they are accurate.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 12:08 PM
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Ok I will consider that... thanks for the suggestion.



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 12:43 PM
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After reading the updates of the last 19 pages, I am confused as to what the topic is...

Anyone?



posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
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EXCUSE ME?


WoW!!! THIS IS NOT DENYING IGNORANCE, THIS IS DENYING CIVILITY



That post, that you replied to??? So, you saw fit to make such an annoying reply on THAT post of mine? And, you dared to call ME "uncivil"????

"WoW!!!", indeed...............................



I do not understand these sentence fragments and/or ramblings..
Some might consider poor sentence structure and incoherent ramblings:


a disservice to thinking, educated people everywhere.


As for ELENIN (whatever heavenly body you want to apply to it) C/2010 X1, your claiming that you know every fact about it's make-up, size, effects, trajectory and everybody else is uneducated?
No additional questions needed? Insults and attacks are a proper method of:


thinking, educated people everywhere.


But I have never attacked and insulted an OP over spelling and/or grammar.
At least those fragments are GOLD so they must be more important than a regular ATS Member's comments.

Great, can you provide an actual link to a WEEDWHACKER Thread that you created that states all this incredible knowledge?
Also, as a fellow ATS Member if such a thread exists I would high suggest you forward the data to every university in the world as I am pretty certain you would be offered quite a career.

That makes about as much sense as someone stating that a GOLD CONTRIBUTION LEVEL = Spamming, Obsessive/Compulsive Disorder and "PROOF" of absolutely zero life.

Now go run to the whoever and get my words removed using that GOLD status. First I would check to be certain you do not have a tungsten core.

Focus, and chose your words wisely as I do not like misdirection and having things taken out of context for the advancement of an ulterior motive. There just may be some thinking and educated ATS Members(please note the proper use or non-use of punctuation) reading others words.

I am an ATS Member and I want to read the future data the OP has assured us he will present.
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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by my3911
I'm not saying what I have posted SO FAR is actual proof. BUT...
]I only posted this so we could all eventually discuss the data I have and will continue to collect


Title your threads better and show your data...

Please.

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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 01:08 PM
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Don't worry... I started this thread and I have also stated that it has become out of control many times. I will start a new thread around a month or so when I have a better summary of data that will be hard to deny. Actually I hope I don't have the data that proves this. If I do, I won't be happy AT ALL and it will be time to get the h3lll out of dodge!



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