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Chemtrails 101

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posted on May, 30 2011 @ 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by Foxy1
if they are only contrails and not chemtrails why dont we see them everyday? why do we see them only on certain days or only certain hours of the day when it does happen?


Because the conditions at high altitude vary - they are not always the same any moer than conditions are always the same at ground level.

Sometimes conditios at ground level are conducive to fog, other times they are not, sometimes it is warmer than otehr times, sometimes more or less humid.



if the temperature is a steady 90 degrees all week you cant tell me its due to tempterature change and making ice crystals some days and them some days not. If you ask me the inconsistancy of these trails is in fact the smoking gun


Because the temperature at high altitude is not teh same as the temperature at ground level where you are, and I bet the temperature is not constantly 90 deg F all day every day - I bet it gets a bit warmer at soem tiems, and is cooler in the morning and evening....

And high altitude is simply colder - The lapse rate - the rate at which temperature decreases with altitude - is about 2 deg C per 1000 feet - 90 deg F is what - about 32 deg C? So at 30,000 ft you could expect the temperature to be somethign like -28 deg C, and at 35,000 ft it might be -38 deg C.

Plus hte winds and humidity at high altitude halve little if any connection with those going on at ground level - so what you are experiencing by way of ground level conditions are really quite irrelevant to what the conditions are 5-6 miles high.




posted on May, 30 2011 @ 10:12 PM
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reply to post by adeclerk
 

It really wasn't that hard to find.
www.cdc.gov...
Check page 9.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 

Saying contrails from propeller driven aircraft can turn into clouds is even more ridiculous than saying contrails from jet airplanes turn into clouds.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 10:18 PM
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reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 

How many times are you going to post this video? I've seen it already and it does nothing for me or your argument.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 10:24 PM
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Well, according to their website, they fly F/A-18 Hornets. I guess because I got that little easily verifiable factoid wrong, my whole thesis is discredited, right?



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by TheRealMrX
reply to post by weedwhacker
 

Well, according to their website, they fly F/A-18 Hornets. I guess because I got that little easily verifiable factoid wrong, my whole thesis is discredited, right?


A thesis can be shown to be wrong if it is based on false assumptions - such as, basing a thesis on the idea that contrails last only two minutes. That was wrong.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by TheRealMrX
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 

Saying contrails from propeller driven aircraft can turn into clouds is even more ridiculous than saying contrails from jet airplanes turn into clouds.


You probably think these WW2 bomber veterans are ridiculous then - goodsky.homestead.com...



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by TheRealMrX
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 

Saying contrails from propeller driven aircraft can turn into clouds is even more ridiculous than saying contrails from jet airplanes turn into clouds.


Why? They both burn hydrocarbons, and both fly though the same air (assuming they go high enough), so what stops prop planes from making contrails?

Of course they make contrails. See Popular Mechanics, March 1943, Page 55

books.google.com...=onepage&q&f=false




posted on May, 30 2011 @ 10:38 PM
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Yes, this is what I am thinking as well. I am thinking it is not mixed into the jet fuel as many claim (even my beloved A.J.). I think there are fleets of jets that hit different areas on different days and weeks. Mixing stuff into the fuel would cause all sorts of technical problems.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by TheRealMrX
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 

How many times are you going to post this video? I've seen it already and it does nothing for me or your argument.


it clearly debunks your comment that there can be no contrails before jet aircraft existed - that's all I posted it for, and I wil lbe delighted to repeat posting it any time you or anyone else makes that or any simlar statement again.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 10:40 PM
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reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 

Ok, why don't you provide links to these videos? I want to see them.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by TheRealMrX
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 

If you are so interested in all of that, maybe you should go do some research and get back to me.


I've done lots of research that shows that chemtails do not exist.

You claim to have information that says otherwise - so why not just post it? If you don't post it then why are you covering it up??

Like this information that contrails can't last more than 2 minutes - why won't you show your research that supports that??



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Like this information that contrails can't last more than 2 minutes - why won't you show your research that supports that??


And why you are doing that - explain why you think prop planes can't make contrails.



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by jdub297

Originally posted by GobbledokTChipeater
You "non-chemtrailers" act like the government doesn't have any secrets.
You "non-chemtrailers" act like the government is 100% transparent.
You "non-chemtrailers" act like you know the existence (or non-existance) of every ongoing 'secret' project.
You "non-chemtrailers" act like somebody should know every little detail of something before commenting (even down to names of people).
You "non-chemtrailers" set unrealistic expectations while having extremely low expectations of yourselves.
You "non-chemtrailers" aren't worth my time


Which "debunker" ever said this was a secret government project?
If you know about it, how can it be "secret?"


Well of course that was my point, but you seem to have missed it.

How can the debunkers be sure that these programs don't exist unless they know every secret program which exists?

I really don't know how to clarify it any more. Perhaps if I type slower?



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 11:00 PM
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Anyone who still thinks contrails cant last more than a few minutes has no idea what they are talking about. Seriously, its pathetic.

If you can't understand basic science, you won't ever get anywhere in this "chemtrail" topic.




posted on May, 30 2011 @ 11:11 PM
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So now Alzheimer's is the result of Chemtrails? Really? I thought it was depopulation as you insisted earlier. Although Alzheimer's is fatal, it takes years and years and years. Not to mention it only affects elderly, except in extreme cases.

Plus, your data that you quoted begins in 1981. If the data is just being plotted, and the disease is just becoming able to detect and diagnose properly, of course the numbers will skyrocket. Not to mention the ever increasing elderly population of the Western world.

If Alzheimer's is caused by Chemtrails, then why is it hereditary?


Genetic research has turned up evidence of a link between Alzheimer's disease and genes on four chromosomes, labeled numerically as 1, 14, 19, and 21.

Source



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by TheRealMrX
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 

Ok, why don't you provide links to these videos? I want to see them.


I would have thought someone with yuor impeccable research credentials would have found them already!! But since you asked so nicely:

Memphis Belle -


"Contrail clouds" over Belgium


Various stills and video footage combined


B-24 contrails


Over britain 1941 - not so much actual large cloud banks tho



posted on May, 30 2011 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by TheRealMrX
reply to post by Foxy1
 

I think there are fleets of jets that hit different areas on different days and weeks. Mixing stuff into the fuel would cause all sorts of technical problems.


Indeed it would create many problems.

so this jet fleet - it has to land somewhere, there have to be pilots, mechanics, people servicing the chemtrail aparatus of filling hte chem-tanks or somehow getting "stuff" into the planes so it can be "sprayed" - so how about mobilising all the chemmies to go find these planes and/or people and gather the evidence.

This is the sort of thing that would actually be verifiable too, thus meeing all my "requirements" for proof!!

I'll wait....



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by TheRealMrX
reply to post by sonnny1
 

I just gave you a 2000 lb. bunker busting bomb of truth, buddy. It's called Chemtrails 101!




Asking again.....................

I will ask you one question.
Why do they need to drop CHEMICALS onto the worlds population again with aircraft,especially if its even more convenient to do it out in the open ?

Still waiting......................



posted on May, 31 2011 @ 02:18 AM
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reply to post by Frater210:

I believe we DO need to exchange writings about this.

This is the Infowar, AND I AM WINNING!!!


A.There is nothing left to exchange.

We do not want your information.

We Been Made To Look Foolish Enough.

It is not an info war.

It is a Noowar

You miscalculated.

Alex.

You have won nothing.



Viva La Vacuum!



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