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Lee Bowers - A Murdered Witness

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posted on May, 30 2011 @ 10:47 PM
This is not a waste of time.

The techonlogy of that time may have been able to fool the people of that period, but we've developed the tools and skepticism to dig deeper. However, this is a relatively recent event. There is a good chance discovery here will put us on the right trail to exposing modern conspiracies. Brotherhood and bloodline might lead us to conspirators.

Ultimately, It might be all we can do to know the truth. Speaking the "truth" seems to get one killed.

posted on May, 30 2011 @ 10:50 PM
Hey ATS's

Just made an account so I could S+F this thread. An amazing amount of detail and information that I had never heard of, this being the first JFK thread i've read so far. Thats not so say that I havn't heard just about every theory out there, and watched many documentaries.

Just out of curiosity, if we were to one day discover the truth about that day, how would it change the world? Would there be a mass felling of 'I told you so', or do we think that the majority of people would be genuinly shocked?

Loving your work OP

posted on May, 30 2011 @ 11:49 PM
reply to post by Rising Against

Diaz Garcia had already been implicated in a plot to kill a president. So taking part in one more plot even as the signalman to confirm the need for the head shot would'nt be out the question.
One thing IS bugging me though, i cant get over how short their trousers are..even sat down they would'nt pull up that much..maybe shorter trousers where required for better reception for the antenna hidden in the leg (just a joke).

posted on May, 31 2011 @ 01:20 AM

Originally posted by crichton13

It's just too risky and would cause mass collapse of Law/Govt/Cultural stability if it was released/proven.


Unfortunately, at this time, in the US, I think the folks on the likes of ATS would be outraged, but the average American citizen would be like "Those +++++s, they killed Kenny!"

And that would be it.

posted on May, 31 2011 @ 08:23 AM
We, humans, tend to focus on smaller things instead of seeing the entire picture. I don't care who the shooter was, I only care who planned the assassination & gave the final order.

I have no doubts that the CIA is possibly the strongest arm of the elites, working against all humans that stand in the way of their. Their agents/killers are thousands strong and benefit of unlimited founding, highest level clearing on every mission and finally, they have the best cover in the world.

They are wolfs in sheep clothes. And the world keeps on sleeping...

posted on May, 31 2011 @ 09:10 AM
reply to post by gekados

We, humans, tend to focus on smaller things instead of seeing the entire picture. I don't care who the shooter was, I only care who planned the assassination & gave the final order.

Err.. sometimes the full picture isn't clear thus the need to look at the smaller details.

We can't look at the whole picture, all of the time unfortunately. It doesn't always work like that.

posted on May, 31 2011 @ 09:52 AM
reply to post by Rising Against

I must admit, the crumbs of information that are gleaned by keen researchers -like yourself
are the bedrock of a foundation that will show who really did the deed and why.
The 'big' picture tends to hold no interest for most, as it can be implemented by many means,
but the conspirators... the ones who schemed and plotted the idea, the ones that smile-the-smile
of the traitor, must be dragged out into the light.
Whether they have passed on or now live lives of solitude and peace -they did what they did and
knew it was wrong.
John Kennedy may have had faults, but he had America and world's interests at heart and they
killed him in broad daylight.

I care not for the theories of why, but I do care for the 'who' in this dastardly crime.

posted on May, 31 2011 @ 10:01 AM
reply to post by A boy in a dress

I care not for the theories of why, but I do care for the 'who' in this dastardly crime.

Thanks for taking the time to post yet again BIAD.

I'll reply to your previous post soon as well (sorry for the wait), but I'm just working on making a video as we speak which hopefully will shed some light on the "who", or in this case who isn't, responsible for this unfortunate crime. It's taking up a lot of my time thus why I haven't posted here until very recently..

Anyway, I hope you continue researching. I enjoy your posts..

posted on May, 31 2011 @ 10:54 AM
reply to post by DIDtm

You've hit the nail on the head. I've gone into more details on other threads, but I would bet everything I own on Bush being involved at some level and most likely at one of the highest levels. It trails back to JFK wanting to get rid of the CIA and the Federal Reserve. Both the CIA and Fed work above the law, with an unimaginable amount of money and power on the line.. Those org's weren't going to let JFK take away their power, money, or ability to dictate our polices. The Bush family has its roots in the CIA. Its padded their pockets and their friends and families pockets, and its allowed them the ability to make their own rules and dictate foreign policy above the law of our land.

posted on May, 31 2011 @ 02:29 PM
reply to post by Rising Against

Thanks for your comprehensive research. I'm sure you are aware of the Men Who Killed Kennedy series. The final installment years later showed a model recreated of Kennedy's head made of layers of paper modeled in 3D the head shot came from the front and was from ground level. Earlier shows in the series depicts the sewer drain being big enough to harbor a person with plenty of view of the whole street. it also gives that person an escape route out of the dainage into RED clay. The kind found on the car Bowers observed. The show also films people jack hammering the drain from the street & making it MUCH smaller!
Years later I watched a Showtime special on the Banonno crime family which when Banonno asked if "WE" had anything to do with it the answer was yes, Roselli in the sewer drain. I also read online that Roselli told Banonno's son that he did the head shot from the drain told when they were both in prison.
Now I only wonder if the umbrella man was signaling Roselli or Files because both claim the head Shot. JFK2 DVD convinces me that GHW Bush would not be able to answer all of the circumstantial evidence against him. The real kicker is the FOIMA papers from J Edgar about a visit from GHW Bush and the CIA the days after JFK was killed. No record of GHWB being in the CIA until this document.
A lot of info will be available once GHWB kicks and I bet you'll and I will ecstatic.

posted on May, 31 2011 @ 03:05 PM
youre an amazing contributor to truth. make it your last breath when the time comes.
1. exume rubys body and test it for radiation.
2. i dont think the grassy knoll was a shooters position. the building triangular across the school depos. and the depository are perfect. the grassy knoll was good for watchers[ spotters] to witness who would need to have been contacted, silenced or murdered.
3. who had the most to benefit from his death?
4. any ties with mob relations already state theres was a corrupt system in play.
5. oswald ran for capone, probably grew up with ruby since they were both from chi-town. why would the mob want or agree to have him killed? kennedy said several weeks before his assasination that he was going to reveal the truth about everything. so what political agendas affected the mob at that time?, back then mobsters wouldve never corrulated with russians or russian mobs. it was against thier belief essentially. so tie in the mobsters with political affect and you answer will say why, but probably not who.
6. in the name of god, truth is to be honored. to those not willing to comply. fight fire with fire. they had those soldiers once. they were called crusaders. and it worked.
7. prevent it from happening again.

posted on May, 31 2011 @ 03:22 PM
reply to post by Rising Against

Another question was why was John Connally (a Democrat) appointed to the office of the US Secretary of State by Nixon a Republic? unprecedented unless Connally was "rewarded" for his silence &for getting shot.
Someone said they just wanted to know those at the top of this & we will never know. I say horse$h!7. We know GHWBush, CIA, Mafia heads, Pres Johnson, the FBI interviewed Oswald twice &admitted to destroying the notes or not taking any. Dallas police, secret service, The Dulles family, Military Ind complex & how about Oswald's handler in Texas, de MohrenSchIldt? He supplied cash to Oswald, had oil connections but most of all when he committed suicide(He received a second subpoena from the assassination committee) he had GHWBush's phone number in his wallet. Nixon, according to Halderman used the phrase Bay of Pigs thing as code for the Kennedy assassination If you refer to the Nixon tapes or transcripts or even Stone's movie, Nixon ordered the Watergate break in to hide the Kennedy assassination info. Nixon is also seen talking with Johnny Roselli at the beginning of the movie in Cuba.
There is a book Called Dr Mary's Monkey about a woman having an affair with Oswaumberumber one two or three?) while she worked on a virus that turned out to be Aids!!! I haven't read the book yet but sounds intriguing.
By the way my avatar shows Jesus if you look close enough.

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posted on May, 31 2011 @ 03:58 PM
reply to post by headhunta

again ur trolling in other peoples threads now? complete disrespect to the OP imho

posted on May, 31 2011 @ 04:09 PM
reply to post by Rising Against

This crusade to find the answers, the buried truth, is just incredible baby

You really should consider writing a book, or even lecturing on it maybe ??
Because from the depth of research and knowledge that has been so evident on all your JFK threads, I believe you could well be one of the leading knowledge specialists on this case

Keep digging yeah, NEVER give up !!!

Oh see you at the book signing

posted on May, 31 2011 @ 07:45 PM

posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 03:52 AM
Hi Rising Against
I love your JFK threads so thank you for doing them.

I think the importance of Lee Bowers testimony is that he wasn't the only person who said that there were people or some sort of activity happening behind the fence. If he was the only person who had said anything then it could be easily dismissed, but there were other witnessess.

Some were:
Dallas police officer Joseph Smith
J.C. Price
Sam Holland

I think the most important testimony is from the police officer who testified that he ran up the grassy knoll after JFK was shot and found an apparent Secret Service agent already there. Firstly, he ran toward the grassy knoll, which suggests he thought at least one shot came from there, and most importantly, when he got there, he was shown a Secret Service badge by a man who was behind the fence.
The Secret Service confirmed that they didn't have anyone stationed beind the fence, so who was this person? Why was this not investigated? Is the fact that a fake Secret Service was behind the fence not evidence?
Sam Holland testified to the Warren Comission that when he ran behind the fence he said he could see evidence of someone satnding in one spot.
J.C. Price signed an affadavit that stated he saw someone running across the area behind the fence after JFK was shot.

All these witness testimonies corroborate Lee Bowers and suggests something was happening behind the fence at the top of the grassy knoll. The Warren Comission stated there was no credible evidence that shots were fired from any place other than the Texas book depository. I think that is plainly false.

I was recently looking at some info on the Daltex building. Did you know there was a broken window on the third floor of that building? I hadn't seen much about it. This building overlooks JFK's route and arguably, has a better line of sight then the book depository. Zapruder had an office in this building. There was also a company in this building called Dallas Uranium & Oil, this company has no corporate records. Was it a dummy company? Maybe these are coincidences and the broken window just shows the laxness of the Secret Service.

The Cuban man in my opinion is definitely holding a walkie talkie.

I was going to ask you about what you thought was the most glaring evidence of conspiracy in the JFK assassination, but to be fair, your threads probably answers that anyway.

Oh yes, and finally, seeing frame 337 of the Zapruder film in better quality should erase any doubts people have about the state of Kennedys head wound. It is clear he had a gaping wound at the back of his head, like ALL the doctors stated he had. I have the frame on my computer but don't know how to upload photos, so I shall link to it instead. You have probably seen it but if anyone hasn't, I would urge them to, it shows his head wound so clearly, it is pretty graphic, so be warned

I think that is clear evidence that he had a massive wound in the back of his head, which fits in with the testimony of the doctors and contradicts the autopsy evidence and the Warren Comission


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posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 04:26 AM
Great thread, Interesting read & good information compiled together OP !

Great to see another perspective of the JFK murder, Ive found myself leaning towards the driver of the car shooting him, But this thread has opened up a whole new 'can of worms' so to speak, whether the driver ever shot him or not i dont know, but the convenent coincedences of key witnesses 'dying' seems all too affluent in this story & in alot of story's we read about now adays.

posted on Jun, 1 2011 @ 05:32 AM
I think that ATS should archive all of your threads about this into one special area, so that the information is grouped for those who would like to follow it on with further research. Failing that, perhaps you could post a post with all of the links to your previous Kennedy threads in one place. I have boxes of videos from the last 20 years or so, some of which contain documentaries and specials on this subject, I am sure that you have seen most/all of these, but when I get them all togeather I will PM you and if you want them, I will transfer them onto disc and send them to you, via a safe address which you can supply a a later date, if that is ok. Keep up the good work !

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