reply to post by Brianegan
You wrote in your post to me:
["# 2 - he was speaking in generalities there but the literal side also exists....If you are one who believes they dont share any pieces of all three
of those things you are forcing yourself to believe it and not facing your true self.....You can only bury it....That doesnt make it go away....You
must face it."]
You can either relate to general mundane observations of human behaviour, or you can relate to set of alleged doctrines on ultimate truth. In neither
case do you have any justifictaion for ANY opinons on me on the above points. This superimposition of theist claims on people are repulsive and of
Quote: ["# 3 His existance is not debatable but simply deniable"]
For your information: I am familiar with the implications of agnosticism.
Quote: ["With this mind frame you will be placed in the back of the line made to wait to ponder what you will say when you meet him face to face
because the day will" come"]
Whereas YOU already know the 'truth' and impose this truth of yours on me.
Quote: ["Please just stop telling god what you think he should be like.....Let him be what ever he wishes to be.......nomatter what that may
be.......If you do that he may just give you what you want and make the times you missed what he did more obvious for you to notice."]
Not being zombified, I read this as: Stop questioning christian doctrines. I do not operate with your absolutes as truth. Surpriiiise.
Quote: ["Ask for forgivness for the same reason you are pissed off for being here......You blame him but he blames you.....Who do you think has a
better chance of being right about it.....It at least deserves some thought."]
So something is 'true, because it's true', as is the case of your subjective claims of universal 'truths'. I have a better method. I INCLUDE rational
thinking for finding answers.
Quote: ["Your cup is way too full bc the judgments you are making now will be the reason you end up a zombie with no brain activity left what so
So by hijacking asian allegory, you have now declared, that because my mind is not filled with YOUR claims, it runneth over. How self-conceited can
Quote: ["When one lets god into their heart the are set free not enslaved...It is just that type of thinking that got us all in this in the first
Yes, I hear you. Still another self-cointaned and unverified postulate.
Quote: ["You gain slow but steady progress bc you are unworthy to find truth so the illusion of a door getting closer will remain just that : a door
seeming to get closer......I exlained this optical illussion of the stairway climb with the mathmatical formula creating the illussion of a door
getting closer and the steps adding and subtracting to make the effect seem real...You will never reach the top or that door while those beliefs you
harbor on are current....You will just keep climbing and be kept in that cage until you learn how to behave."]
I love, when people patronize me on dogmatic grounds and 'explain' it through useless allegories. I have a philosophical position, which can be
validated from many rational perspectives. That it doesn't fit with your self-proclaimed 'truths' is of zero importance to me.
Quote: ["The ones who love but are uniterested in god are one step closer to the truth than one who is uniterested in both."]
So you're also a self-declared 'sage'.
Quote: ["He doesnt have to be that way but his children are currently out of control making horrible choices........Take responsibility for your
actions instead of placing the blame on such an easy target."]
So blindly accepting a set of postulates, which you consider insane or idiotic is "taking responsibility". I consider it demonstrating a submissive
slave-nature, where you just follow rules, however stupid they appear to be.
Quote: ["The only reason you would ever resonate with anything is bc of god and him asking nothing in return.....Thank him you a-hole."]
Quote: ["If you believe that you arent being controlled than you are so far behind in waking up to whats around you that i feel sad for the shock
value you will have when the build up of denial hits you at once from explosion of too many things stored away for later evaluation... "]
Thanks for your concern. It would have been more appreciated, if you knew, what you're talking about in my case.
Quote: ["Free will is not absence of compulsion."]
Your first communicable point. But what is it then?
Quote: ["Sir......You lie on a daily basis and to yourself among all others that you exagerate embelish underestimate to as well......"]
Skip your clairvoyant stunt. You don't know me.
Quote: ["This is a form of control that you are trying to place on others to believe what you want them to believe.....You disagree with this one and
you simply just said another lie.......Keep it up...."]
So anti-authority is authority? Refine your semantics, this is to clumpsy.
Quote: ["T o believe that you are capable of undersatnding the concept of god is such a display of ego that you reak of it......Your judgements are so
far from being in the ballpark that you really should start thinking things over and revaluating a bunch of things.... "]
A reasonable first step is to establish any 'god's actual existence. Then his/her/its specifics can be considered.
Quote: ["You didnt get it the first time or the second time and since this time was probably in the realm of the millionth time you can undersatnd why
we repeat ourselves to those who have decided to close their ears to this information....We wont give up on you no matter how mean you can be......You
are weak so we carry you up kicking and screaming...Youll thank us later bc what you know now will change in a little while...."]
You repeat yourself, because you this way hope to be able to brainwash people into beliving your non-sense.
Quote: ["NO OBVIOUS REASONS.........YOU ARE SO SELF RIGHTOUS ITS SICKENING......YOU ARE GUILTY OF SO MANY HORRID THINGS THAT YOU DESERVE SO MANY MORE
HORRIBLE THINGS TO HAPPEN TO YOU............BUT TRUTH BE TOLD YOU ARE CREATING EVERYTHING YOU SEE AND IT IS DIRECTLY LINKED TO THE THOUGHTS YOU DWELL
ON....lOOK IN THE MIRROR "]
So much for christian love.
Quote: ["Yes sacrifice is involved and you should be greatful that you will never have to experience it and that god does for you."]
Quote: ["creationism is already active in our actions and words...."]
You lost me. Are we talking about the same thing?
Quote: ["well the balances are now shifted in our favor....Every day hords of people join our goals of unity and love and one ness"]
I would like to see this cosmetic statistics you refer to. If the current trend continues, you and your ilk will be very small in a generation or
Quote: ["We already outnumber you now by far and soon you will be the largest minority"]
Who are 'we' and who are 'you' in this context?
Quote: [" and the reason that op has found such hapiness and you bathe in frowns, rage, and, grumpyness"]
Quote: ["So why are you here? Think about it. Your soul is screaming at you pulling you in our direction and you are fighting it every step of the
way....Either listen to your soul or be forever torn and alone.......until the end day when god smacks you himself."]
Clairvoyance AND dogma.
edit on 31-5-2011 by bogomil because: typo