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Originally posted by jaycen420
wow those are some crazy vids. Alot of the police force seem to think they make their own rules. We as a people need to stand up for ourselves. Stop taking this abuse by these thugs.
Im in full support of police. but i beleive in america and europe we need to reform their power
Originally posted by Jrocbaby
Those that support cops are not in touch with reality.
Reality is that in other countries that have legalized every drug but you can't sell it. With proven lower rates or addiction, maybe 95% of the people that are anti-cop will have less hate towards "the man, man"
Also they are not using the most effective way to cure people of addiction.
Cops are not on our side, the prison complex is a business, the more criminals the more money.
We need cops, but not ones with the power they have now.edit on 29-5-2011 by Jrocbaby because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ElGatoLoco0698
reply to post by Alien Abduct
Thanks for posting this. I'm acquainted with many people who think I have it in for cops because I tell them to remain silent during police encounters. Don't say nothing and there's no reason to get into an altercation. Refuse all searches even if you are not carrying contraband. People, use the law to your advantage!
Originally posted by jaydeePNW
1) So I can't have an opinion and share it? That is what you are saying. I agree on the head up ass thing that was out of line I should have worded it better, sorry. However I do believe you are making yourself look like an idiot and I have no intention of censoring that. Do I believe you are an idiot? No, however how you state things isn't very well put. I may have the same problem here myself.
2) I covered that in a post above however it is semantics really.
3) What is your definition of not complying? Mine is resisting arrest. If a cop comes up to you with no intention of detaining or arresting and you refuse to give them any information then fine, however I have no idea why you wouldn't if you had nothing to hide. If they have probable cause to arrest you then not complying with their arrest is unlawful. I am not sure what your issue is. I must have missed it. You can be silent all you want but you sill have to comply with the police.
4) Yes, I agree. Thats why there is a internal affairs division. Bad cops do get busted and fired and even go to jail themselfs. They also get reprimanded. Most people don't see that side of it I guess. Easier to cry foul when every anti-cop idiot puts up a youtube vid of misconduct. Here where I live a guy got shot by a cop and it took three independant reviews, one civilian, before the cop was freed from charges.
5) Very few people I know have any issues with the law enforcment. There are 500,000 people in this area, if more than a tiny percentage had issues things would be more obvious. It isn't. People may gripe about it but when they have to call 911 the cops are their best friends. Funny how that works.
6) I have no clue what you are on about I guess. How exactly are you giving up any rights to privacy? Maybe I am arguing the wrong issue.
I am 34 years old and had to deal with the police 5 times that I can remember and not one of those times did I have a problem with how they conducted themselfs.
If you guys want to know how well USA police handle themselfs then go look at videos (not on yourtube) of police in many 3rd world countries. They just shoot you in the street no questions asked. You have it very damn good in this country and it is people that take advantage of that that ruins it for the rest of us. Can the police do better? Sure, but is it to much to ask that criminals do less crime?
Originally posted by X9ballX
refusing a search is legal however not wise. like not paying don corleone that protection money you owe him. your not legally obliged to however doing so may be a wise idea.
Originally posted by seeashrink
reply to post by Alien Abduct
Just from a quick search, there are somewhere between 800 thousand and one million cops in the US. That's state and local. Of that, of what percentage would you say are bad? I would suggest, less than ten percent. the other eleven in the trash.
i say this to people whos only reply in these threads are that cops do good too
"cops do good things too"
YEA?!
so did hitler
he wouldnt have gained as much control and popularity in his country which allowed him to come to power without doing SOME GOOD
so why dont you people leave these threads, stop kissing cops asses online and go praise hitler with your same logic
He didnt say he condoned it he just said there was about that much. there will always be coruption in everything
Originally posted by ..5..
Originally posted by seeashrink
reply to post by Alien Abduct
Just from a quick search, there are somewhere between 800 thousand and one million cops in the US. That's state and local. Of that, of what percentage would you say are bad? I would suggest, less than ten percent. the other eleven in the trash.
You condone 10% corruption? I'm at a loss for words. 0.1% is too much considering the power to do evil that they hold over the average person.
Originally posted by scooterstrats
So you dont recognize the right to remain silent? You are working from the wrong premise. We are not here to serve to or answer to you. Its the other way around.
Why is this so hard? We have laws and a social contract ( look it up) that we abide by. Law enforcement such as yourself seem to feel that they can exercise any law and that you are the judges of the laws. ever mind that many in the population will correct you when you are wrong. Get over yourself.. There are many citizens who are FAR more intelligent than you and understand the laws. Get educated, k?
Originally posted by scooterstrats
reply to post by Trueman
Thanx. Thats how its supposed to work. We have people here that defend and justify aberrant behavior.
God bless you.