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Adam Kokesh Body Slammed for Dancing at Jefferson Memorial

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posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
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Oh, so now you know what is in his heart.

I neverr knew God liked ATS.



 
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Well it's more than apparent that you can't make your point without making an uncalled for comment about the person who posted. How many of your posts were removed? Hmmm.

Anyhow,

I have a great scam idea. If any of you are interested, let me know.

1. Get a video camera
2. I'll print up some shirts with propaganda related slogans
3. We'll go to places where security is high
4. I'll act like an a-hole and you film it
5. Post it on YouTube and point it to my blog where I have a Google AdSense account setup
6. And we'll split the profit

Edit: I forgot to add that we'll heavily edit it to show whatever we want.


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posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa

There is a higher order to things and the individuals rights are paramount if they are harming no one.


Please explain.

I need an explanation of what Higher Order you are talking about.

AND - - in Flash Mobs individuals were harming others - - which is why laws are being considered.



posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:09 PM
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Would you rather people fighting for freedom face starvation, poverty, and death?

It would seem to be common sense to try and fund your effort, propagate and spread the truth.

Did you think the bus loads of protesters were free? Ohhh you poor thing.



posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus





We can see by Mussolini's own declaration, that Fascism itself is Statist, but actually gives more freedom than Socialism. Socialism is but a bridge to the more violent form, communism, and fascism is only slightly to the right of Socialism. All three ideologies are Statist, that is the State is supreme and the individual has no rights but rights of the collective.


Thanks for proving my point. It was the Fascist statist that stopped the individuals from dancing. In effect taking away their individual rights of LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS!!

There is a higher order to things and the individuals rights are paramount if they are harming no one. And slavish obedience to authority leads only to them taking more control and ultimate tyranny.

Question Authority!
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Anarchism is on the other end of the scale. Complete lack of respect for any authority is on this end. Many communists use anarchy to achieve their goals, yet the final end is to achieve complete Statism where the individual has no rights but is subject entirely to the State.



posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by ThreeNF
An interview of Adam after the arrest



This was a great interview and he targeted an unconstitutional pseudo law and exposed police brutality. Even if its not the tea party or some other historical event, this is still exactly what we need to do constantly. Sorry, its one brick at a time. This brick was just unconstitutional as other choices, and probably easier to deal with the results from so a good choice.



posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by civilchallenger
Lets say you come to *my* property and I tell you not to dance... then you do dance. Then I body slam you on the ground and put you into a chokehold. Who is in the wrong and what should the retribution be? Answer that question and you'll know what the double standard I'm talking about is about.


I don't get your point.

First off - you are not a law enforcement officer.

However - if I came on your property - you told me to get off and I didn't - - then you called the law - - and I still refused to get off - - yes they have the right to forcibly remove me.

But you don't. It is not your job.


My point is that it doesn't matter if you are a law enforcement officer or not because everyone should be subject to the same laws and restrictions. True or false? Therefore, the park rangers committed a criminal act when they bodyslammed a person for dancing. The fact that it isn't my job is irrelevant. What if McDonalds hired me to stop people from dancing in their stores and I then bodyslammed customers who I saw dancing? It would then be *my job* to stop people from dancing. Now, what should my punishment be for that?

If it were *my job* to bodyslam customers at McDonald's, as manager of that store, who are seen dancing, is that a criminal act? Yes or no?

And again, my point is that you think one class of citizen, the police, should be subject to a completely different lawbook as the rest of us. And you admit that when you say "but you're not a police officer". It doesn't matter Annee. Your idea that police offers can lie, cheat, and steal if their job requires it is wrong.
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posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by Tephra
It has nothing to do with dancing. It's about freedom, it's about destruction of the police state, it's about everything worth fighting for. I fear for you man...


Can you get anymore dramatic?

I remember in the 50s when you could drive your car on to the beach. When you could slide down the sand dunes in El Porto.

It is not "the Man" who took these things away from us. It was disrespecting people - - who damaged property and didn't clean up their own crap.

Reality sucks. It is rude and disrespecting people that laws are enacted for.



posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by Q:1984A:1776
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So it is an arrestable offense to dance in public, but it's ok to body slam someone on concrete? These men are criminals and traitors to their oaths to defend the constitution. Crap like this is going to keep happening until we do something about it people! Peaceful protest won't help. Voting won't help. Keeping quiet and bowing your head CERTAINLY won't help. When will be our time to rise?

Ok, but we have to promise to show them the same courtesy and respect that they have been showing us.
You know, by the "book".



posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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...and I can do the same thing he is doing without attempting to be a martyr. And last time I checked I'm still free, it's Memorial Day weekend, I stuffed myself at a cookout, and I'm far from poverty.



posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by whaaa

There is a higher order to things and the individuals rights are paramount if they are harming no one.


Please explain.

I need an explanation of what Higher Order you are talking about.

AND - - in Flash Mobs individuals were harming others - - which is why laws are being considered.



The higher order is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" Body slamming for dancing is ok with you?

Don't let your ideology get in the way of your common sense!!

“This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.”

Plato



posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by civilchallenger
My point is that it doesn't matter if you are a law enforcement officer or not because everyone should be subject to the same laws and restrictions. True or false?


You keep trying make a point - - but you're not.

Yes - - definitely it makes a difference if you are law enforcement or not.

If I came on your property and you caused me harm - - - it would be you going to jail.

But - if I came on your property - - you asked me to leave and I refused. Your only recourse is to call law enforcement to remove me. Unless (in some states) I threatened yours and your families life.



posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by whaaa

There is a higher order to things and the individuals rights are paramount if they are harming no one.


Please explain.

I need an explanation of what Higher Order you are talking about.

AND - - in Flash Mobs individuals were harming others - - which is why laws are being considered.



The higher order is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" Body slamming for dancing is ok with you?

Don't let your ideology get in the way of your common sense!!

“This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.”

Plato


Who's higher order? I'm an Atheist.

Enough with the ridiculous body slamming. Oh I'm sure a cop just outright body slammed somebody - - from the get go.

I'm sure there was no such thing as resistance - - belligerent behavior - - etc.
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posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by whaaa

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by whaaa

There is a higher order to things and the individuals rights are paramount if they are harming no one.


Please explain.

I need an explanation of what Higher Order you are talking about.

AND - - in Flash Mobs individuals were harming others - - which is why laws are being considered.



The higher order is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" Body slamming for dancing is ok with you?

Don't let your ideology get in the way of your common sense!!

“This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.”

Plato


Who's higher order? I'm an Atheist.

Enough with the ridiculous body slamming. Oh I'm sure a cop just outright body slammed somebody - - from the get go.

I'm sure there was no such thing as resistance - - belligerent behavior - - etc


Now you are just grasping at straws, trying to prop up an argument you lost long ago.... "Do unto others" requires no GOD just a little common sense.



posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa
Now you are just grasping at straws, trying to prop up an argument you lost long ago.... "Do unto others" requires no GOD just a little common sense.


NO - I am not.

This has nothing to do with any sentimental philosophy "Do unto others".

This has to do with a law - - - and law enforcement doing their job.



posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by whaaa
Now you are just grasping at straws, trying to prop up an argument you lost long ago.... "Do unto others" requires no GOD just a little common sense.


NO - I am not.

This has nothing to do with any sentimental philosophy "Do unto others".

This has to do with a law - - - and law enforcement doing their job.


Sentimental Philosophy? You must be a joy to be around. Now I understand where you are coming from and I find it abhorrent. With that attitude....no whining when life hands you the ******* end of the stick And at your age....it will!
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posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa
Sentimental Philosophy? You must be a joy to be around. Now I understand where you are coming from and I find it abhorrent.


Whatever Dude.

What part of - - - there is a Law against dancing at this memorial do you not understand?



posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:46 PM
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These people were not body slammed for dancing. They were body slammed because of their refusal to to deal with an authority telling them not to engage in a particular behavior, and they resisted. The cops did ask very nicely at first. It's not like they were dancing and the cops rushed them and without warning slammed them down. That would just be too outrageous. So, maybe the question here is really how long should the police let people mock them before they take action? Perhaps these guys are more astute than people here give them credit. You think they do not know who Code Pink is, and what their agenda is? On the other hand, some other video was posted where the cop rushed a girl from behind and smashed her head into the side of a concrete wall. Of the two, which is the most violent?



posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by civilchallenger
My point is that it doesn't matter if you are a law enforcement officer or not because everyone should be subject to the same laws and restrictions. True or false?


Yes - - definitely it makes a difference if you are law enforcement or not.


So, why do you believe that a "higher class" of citizen, police officers, should not be subject to the same set of laws as the rest of us? Do you believe in the principles of equal rights? I think I've made important points, the most significant of which is that you believe law enforcers should be considered above the law.

Also, I don't remember body-slamming dancers to be part of a job of police officers. But go ahead and show me the job description of a Washington DC police officer... you can prove me wrong.



posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:50 PM
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Some of you are just flat missing the point. Yes, this was done on purpose to disturb law enforcement. I will concede that. However, it was not done for sophomoric laughs between drunk college kids. This was demonstrated to SHOW you how absolutely insane US law has become and moreover how it is enforced.

Wake up people, If you can't celebrate freedom at the shrine of somebody who championed that freedom by expressing free speech then get used to a cold muddy boot on the side of your face and do it quickly.

Shame on any of you who claim they should have just done what they were told, this close to memorial day too, shame, shame on you.



posted on May, 29 2011 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by whaaa
 


These people were not body slammed for dancing. They were body slammed because of their refusal to to deal with an authority telling them not to engage in a particular behavior, and they resisted. The cops did ask very nicely at first. It's not like they were dancing and the cops rushed them and without warning slammed them down. That would just be too outrageous. So, maybe the question here is really how long should the police let people mock them before they take action? Perhaps these guys are more astute than people here give them credit. You think they do not know who Code Pink is, and what their agenda is? On the other hand, some other video was posted where the cop rushed a girl from behind and smashed her head into the side of a concrete wall. Of the two, which is the most violent?


Im sure that English Lords asked very nicely to violate the Irish mans wife when they controlled the country and by right of law they could do so but I'm sure those pesky Irishman, just kept saying, no, you can't do that, it's not right............. What were they thinking? Breaking the law after many times being told they should comply, surely they had what was coming......

Silly Irish terrorists, dissenting with the English soldiers when they clearly were in violation of the law....
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