Most here that bash muslims and see scary JOOOSS around every corner are pretty far from "awake" . They obviously have never been to an Islamic
country nor decided to speak with a Muslim or Jew themselves before making absurd assumptions... and swallowing pure propaganda. Besides cultural
propaganda, as a person who is not a Christian or a Muslim.. looking in from the outside of it : CHristianity is as much of a religion of hate as
Islam depending on who is wielding the power/book/religious clout.
What we found in Iran was ( of course this was before the present regime) that the people there are JUST like us.. same hopes and dreams.. and very
very civilized. Very cultured and decent. They are being fed the same propaganda about us in the US though : we're uncivilized and etc.
plenty of examples and films to "prove" it. They, like us, have a govt out of control. They, unlike us, dont believe pure propaganda.
A bunch here already know this, so sorry if Im repeating a tired old story, but my husband's ex is an Iranian. As in born in Tehran and her father
was the Shahs cardiologist. We visited and I was shown complete hospitality. Most are quite educated and mostly educated in Western schools and uni.
The fascinating thing was that I was continually mistaken for an Iranian... Im 100% NDN. Siksika ( Blackfeet) first in the family to be born off Rez.
I guess when youre brown its true: we all look alike
Now as you can imagine, they dont get exposed to very many pure NDNs there. It was quite
the learning experience for all of us. Imagine, I dont eat babies and run around in a loincloth and they arent pooping in a corner of their dirt
floored hut... and they never once tried to kill my Infidel ass. AMAZING..
OP, youre going to get a bloody forehead here banging your head against a brick wall trying to tell some the truth. I have been called disinfo and
govt shill among other more T&C non-compliant terms for daring to tell the truth : There really are christians in Israel, there really are Jews and
christians in Iran, Israelis arent necessarily Jews and Iranians arent always Muslims who want to murder your infants. Not every Jew is a millionaire
who wants to take over the world and not all Muslims want to convert you or else.
I dont know if I buy into it, but one person I was speaking to the other day said the TSA thing here was 2-fold. Erosion of our rights and passively
preventing Americans from seeing other cultures and religious-based cultures ( Islamic countries) for themselves.. and seeing the truth. We in the US
are pretty insulated because our country is so large and we have so much right here to amuse us
I am thankful that my lifes journey has allowed me
to travel to MANY countries and actually lived for periods of time in a few... as a civilian and not based on mil ground in each place. I am appalled
by some of the threads here that are complete disinformation concerning a few countries in particular. It would be like someone in Iran posting
threads of the Ghettos in Detroit, East St Louis, and a run down Barrio.. and then them claiming THOSE REPRESENTATIONS ALONE are all that America is
and are representative of all of our citizens. Lies are lies.. and disinformation is disinformation.... regardless if it is ignorance or on purpose.
I can tell you that I once believed in the propaganda in my youth.. UNTIL I experienced and observed the truth myself. I am ashamed of some of my
previously held prejudices. My husband is a combat vet, Marine. We were awakened to the truth of things far before he fought. The truth is.. like
here.. in Iraq, Saudi, Iran, Libya... there truly is a segment of radicals. They are disgusting animals who use religion as a weapon. They ARE animals
and dangerous. I can see here in my own country, the US, that it is ABSOLUTELY no different. Im not a lib or a conservative, not a dem or repub.. but
I watched Bush's speeches as he made them. Watch how nationalism and God is invoked to justify war on a vague enemy : the terrorist. This is why
others in non-christian countries ( as if we are christian here) believe and say that Bush provoked a holy war and Obama is continuing it. It wasnt
pulled out of their asses with no reasoning. I could go off into 50 directions from here.. this all ties into our soldiers now being the highest
suicide rate of any war, etc etc etc.. there is a lot of damage when one realizes we are fighting an unjust holy war against the wrong enemy. My
husband realized it when he was shot and almost killed by an American made weapon in the hands of the enemy. The enemy wasnt the average Iraqi or
Kuwaiti. Not even the average Muslim.They didnt find it laying in a ditch somewhere for an entire group with ammo and accompanying paraphenalia and
happen to pick it up. "THEY" arent even the average citizens of these countries we are soft occupying. Blah blah blah.. I am off topic and might
wander in conspiracy-land from here....
OP.. thank you for making this thread.. thank you for trying.. and please, please.. know you have support here even if its not the majority. If we're
all real lucky : One day the posters here will READ a thread before they make stupid comments.