Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Seagle
Look at the language used by the Israelis in this incident
"serious and abnormal incident of international proportions of which no incident that I recall can equal."
An Israeli said that, not the Israelis. An Israeli who was stranded. An attorney too. I wonder if he might be working on a law suit.
You're just being facetious. A highly qualified Israeli gave his experienced assesment of this situation and it is reported as such in just about
every Israeli news service therefore this is now what the Israelis are saying. Nobody is publicly refuting these claims regarding the seriousness
nature of the contamination and that includes the companies which people are pointing the finger at.
'The fungi and bacteria that contaminate fuel are common so given that Israeli laboritories were unable to identify the molecular structure of
the substance in the fuel suggests there is not a normal event.'
Please provide a source indicating that Israeli labs tested the material and were unable to identify it.
I already have and there are countless sources available. This one from The Jerusalem Post-
"Israeli authorities turned to the lab in Germany after tests carried out by the Israel Institute of Energy and Environment were unable to recognize
the molecular structure of the contaminant."
"Furthermore, the fact that the US military laboratory did not want to test the substance is very bizzarre given that it is the US Dept of
Defence that regulates, controls and profits from aviation fuel."
Once again, the fuel came from Paz. An Iraeli company. Please provide evidence that the US DoD had anything to do with it. As pointed out the proposed
sale which you talk about was for military fuel, not civilian.
Where in that sentence did I say the US DoD are to blame? I have pointed out the fact that the US DoD refused to test the substance which is a very
strange stance to take given their position in this industry. They are actively researching, developing, commercialising and selling new biofuels and
fuel additives that are being used in the commercial aviation industry. PAZ is the sole distributor for BP in Israel so to say PAZ made the fuel is
not entirely true now is it. They are refusing to accept any responsibility for the incident and are adamant that there is no evidence of
contamination in their storage tanks.
I provided evidence that the material was identified.
IAA officials said on Monday that the mysterious substance discovered in the fuel was a combination of mold and bacteria, though they admitted
that they did not know what led to its formation in the storage tanks or fuel lines.
Contaminated
fuel
They know what it is. The question is, who is responsible for it getting into the fuel supply. Is it Paz (who made the fuel) or the IAA (who is
responsible for fuel storage).
Sorry but that is not evidence. If you read the rest of the article you will see that as at the 10th of May the only test that had been conducted was
by the Israel Institue of Energy testing lab who describe the substance as a 'greasy liquid' but they were unable to identify its mollecular
structure. This is from the same article you claim as evidence -
"The foreign matter, which the Israel Institute of Energy and Environment testing lab described as a "greasy liquid," affected hundreds of inbound
and outbound flights at the Ben-Gurion, the Eilat Airport, and at several other airfields across the country.
Samples of the contaminated fuel were first sent to a testing agency in Germany used by the American Air Force. However, the lab refused to perform
the tests, saying they only dealt with military fuels and would not perform the lab test work for Israel, according to Israel Army radio.
Paz Oil is still seeking foreign companies to test the fuel"
To this date there has still not been any actual data released as to what the substance actually is.
