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Originally posted by sizzlean
Originally posted by bhornbuckle75
Originally posted by Maslo
You cannot get more energy from oxygen + hydrogen to water reaction than it originally took to split the water into said hydrogen and oxygen. Thats basic chemistry.
Remember folks, hydrogen is NOT a source of energy. It is an energy storage mechanism.
edit on 29/5/11 by Maslo because: (no reason given)
Yeah basically that's nothing more than a more complicated version of the old perpetual motion machine scam...the classic Idea was where some mechanism would attempt to create an imbalance in a gravity wheel mechanism to make it spin forever. Those of course never worked because they defied basic knowledge of physical laws...generally the more complex the scheme, the more plausible some of the Ideas seemed....but this is simply because our Brain can be overwhelmed with such complexity, and when that happens it becomes easier to fool the brain....sort of like a logical optical illusion rather than a visual one.
Wow, you sure do know everything. Only problem is that everything you know is BS. I've seen two, 2, dos perpetual motion machines myself and both are and have been running for about 12 and 8 years. Just because you were decieved by some university bs, don't come here spewing that jibberish. You are either slow, lazy or just pathetic because it would only take a person a short amount of time to find these things out. And when I say short I mean like in less than a month of searching. I'm blessed in that when I go looking for something it just pops up. But for someone who has no interest, (because you bought the lies told you), well you cannot find these videos, but just because you cannot find the truth, does not mean it is not out there, it just means you have a small small closed off mind as do 99.997% of this worldly world.
Now someone is going to say Link, and all I am going to say is ....I'm not going to do your homework for you. The two videos I refer to would be so buried by now by worthless cover videos that it just is not worth my time to go looking for any of you, but if you truly want to see one of these machines then by all means get to searchin. Open a window, do the search and then just keep going forward and leave your window open until you find what you are looking for. It only took me about 3 weeks of watching video after video to find one I had forgotten to save about a year earlier, now I save all of them and have multiple copies, but that don't mean I'm gonna do your homework for you. Besides you are probably one of the people who make up fake free energy videos and post them to cover or hide the real ones, either that or a Physics teacher, which would explain your confusion
Originally posted by ukman2009
If people had bothered to watch the Bob Lazar video he shows how you can get around the amount of energy put into the separation of H and O.... He uses the SUN to produce the electricity needed to separate the atoms then he feeds the H into the fuel tanks in his car for 8 hours... he then has 400 miles worth of hydrogen fuel for nothing, zilch. so everybody ranting on about the energy needed to separate the atoms being more than you get out, if it aint costing you anything who cares!
Originally posted by sd2112
Yeah Stanley meyers showed off his water powered dune buggy and was killed shortly after. Apparently the pentagon was interested. HMMM!! We are truly enslaved people. I truly believe there is tech out there that would free us from our enslavement of the rich. Maybe it is true that this tech wont be released until they get rid of all the useless eaters.
Originally posted by mrMasterJoe
Oh well... all this fighting in here against each other because of different viewing points and different levels of knowledge. That simply leads to nothing - please let it be!
Regarding the topic. It is true that you NORMALLY would have to put in the exact same amount of "external" energy to split H²O (water) into H² and O/O² than you will receive by burining the resulting H² which will produce just the same amount of water that has been used before we started.
HOWEVER this is only true when we look at "conventional" methods of splitting H²O into ints components. I am very very very convinced that there is a way of splitting H²O so that you WON'T have to put in as much energy as comes out of burning the resulting H². How can this be true? It has to do with resonance! And the extra energy that you get is coming from the quantum vacuum.
As the conservation of energy is a general principle that can never be broken the way of splitting H²O most efficiently is to attract additional quantum vaccum energy that HELPS you split the H²O and reduces the need for "external" energy. And I think this is very well possible using a system that generates resonance in the H²O molucules to that they are really ripped appart by their own vibration which is ultimately fed by the quantum vaccum. All plausible systems that can run on water would invisibly use quantum vaccum energy to virtually run forever on just a litre of water. So after all - it IS possible.
Regarding quantum vaccum energy. We are surrounded by a sea of energy. The "empty space" in between atoms and even inside atoms is not empty at all. It contains enormous amounts of energy which produces so called virtual particles on a regular basis when it has "nothing to do". The quantum vaccum is just "waiting" to be used as some sort of energy source. Like Nicola Tesla once said - we will once use the same energy source as it is used by nature itself on the lowest possible level. Well, we already detected that source: it's the quantum vaccum energy (sometimes called zero point energy)! All we have to do is to extract that energy from the quantum vaccum. And that IS possible. See also: philica.com...
You won't even need water to do that. I believe that there are indeed MANY ways to extract the quantum vacuum energy.
Look up overunity. Look up solid state free energy generators. You will find that we are pretty damn close to bring the whole TPTB system to its knees. Once one of the technologies breaks through to the market the world we live in will never be the same again. This amazing revolution is just around the corner. May it be a water driven car or a smart (preferrably solid state) free energy device.
You can begin to count the few remaining days of Big Oil now. It's almost a thing of the past. You will remember my words soon.
Cheersedit on 29-5-2011 by mrMasterJoe because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by malcr
Originally posted by notonsamepage
reply to post by arufon
Nonsense. Even of TPTB exists they would have to influence EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY ON THE PLANET. I have a sneaking suspicion that the chinese don't give a damn and will do things their way. So where is the chinese water car!. where is the north korean water car. Where is the Iranian water car.
Originally posted by ukman2009
If people had bothered to watch the Bob Lazar video he shows how you can get around the amount of energy put into the separation of H and O.... He uses the SUN to produce the electricity
If you have links that don't deal with fraud artists and instead deal with people intimately familiar with the science, I'd love to see it. Post it up! In its own thread if necessary.
Originally posted by dreadblitz
could it use the water from around Japan? supercharged plutonium wawa
Originally posted by pez1975
the company is out of bussiness and was a hoax read more here