Chemtrails/Geoengineering as Depopulation? Vitamin D Deficiency linked to All Illness/Disease

According to the research cited in this article, Vitamin D deficiency can lead to the onset of all kinds of nasty. So is there a connection between what is being perceived as chemtrails/geoengineering and the creation/seeding of clouds and an overall plan to encourage ill health? UN Agenda 21 depopulation run amok?
Vitamin D Deficiency Linked to All Diseases and Illnesses

Some tidbits:

Sunlight is the only effective treatment against colds, flus, influenza virus and every major disease known to man

Can vitamin D cure cancer? The answer is yes. Vitamin D is a powerful hormone that regulates and repairs bodily cells. Vitamin D is needed for optimum functioning of the immune and cardiovascular systems, increases white blood cell production and supports the prostate as well as healthy skin and bones. UVB rays from sunshine is essential to convert cholesterol in skin to vitamin D. The skin cannot produce natural vitamin D without UVB rays. The people who receive $80 billion a year for cancer research knows that and because of this reason they are falsely claiming UVB rays are harmful. In order for them to keep on getting $billions from your government in the form of tax dollars they are telling everyone to lather on layers and layers of clothing and toxic sunscreen to block out the sun’s essential ultra violet light. They want us to cover our Vitamin D producing skin in order to interfere and prevent our body from fighting and destroying cancer cells. The United States Department of Health and Human Services has declared ultraviolet (UV) radiation from the sun and artificial sources, such as tanning beds and sun lamps, as a known carcinogen (cancer-causing substance). The estimated 2008 cost of cancer care was $228.1 billion – that figure is a very good motive for them to fraudulently claim that UVB rays from sunshine is harmful and cancer causing when in fact UVB rays exposure is essential for the body to produce vitamin D. 20 minutes of UVB exposure is essential for preventing cancer.

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DD

Any time a sickness spreads in my house,

I always grab a jug of OJ and head outside for a long walk.

seems to work well for me.



As for the greed issue,

Where there is incentive people will take it

The argument sounds semi logical, but the people that use tanning beds and really jack up their skin and cant imagine that actually being good for someone. Where as catching some rays for a short period of time and getting a natural tan well seems alright..

reply to post by thegoods724


Nah that fake tanning bed crap is gahbage.. You need the real deal, aka Mr. Golden Sun.
In the article it talks about how using sunblock denies the advantages potentially obtained by being in the sun. So, sell sunblock, make money, and your CFR buddies and you giggle all the way to the international central bank.

It doesn't sound impossible!

Cancer, HIV, Diabetes...I believe we could already cure them.
The problem, again, is money...and laziness

If I was making money like they are, I could easily invest in something else and still be rich has hell.
Why won't they just change the way they steal our money with something that at least doesn't kill us?

Aren't people worth more alive? When people are sick, they stop buying in general.
Where's the money in that?

Why can't petrol companies just put that money in another way to rape our bank accounts?!
They are just has lazy, plain lazy.

I hope pro capitalists are happy.
And, what is worst then stealing money off from hard working people while being lazy?

Enough of this capitalist bs, wake up

I sail, and so i spend days on end in the sun. The way i use sunscreen is at the beginning of the season, i dont wear sunblock for the first two-three hours in the sun. when i start to burn, i apply sunblock so i dont suffer in pain. as the year gets along and i build a resistance to the sun so by the end i dont need sunblock. it works just fine for me

reply to post by User8911


This isn't capitalism, it's oligarchical fascism. Corporate control of media, government, education and by extension EVERYTHING.
If TRUE capitalism were attempted, it may well be beneficial for all. Having never been tried, we are only left to wonder.

More of this?

Again I have to bring up the glaringly obvious flaw in this conspiracy... EVERYONE BREATHES THE SAME AIR .. including the pilots of the planes you see flying, including their families on the ground.. including the government.. there's absolutely no logic to this theory at all .. none

Contrails... contrails.... contrails... look them up, they are logical and make sense.. proven, reproduceable .. but sadly they lack conspiracy and are uninteresting to many of you

Living in Vancouver, I’ve got a strong suspicion that this unending cloud cover and unusually cool weather is a result of geoengineering, cloud seeding, chemtrails or what ever you want to call it. When the cloud cover starts to break just a little then the spraying starts immediately. Maybe they’re doing it to shove the radiation from Japan towards the south, maybe they’re doing it to lower vitamin D levels to further weaken the population’s immune system, maybe both… but whatever the reason it’s not for the good.

I see already that the term "chem-trails" has provoked the usual reaction.

Regardless of how people feel about that, I would hope they read the article provided by the OP that treats of vitamin D.

This is one I've cared about for some years, and there is plenty of evidence to support the critical role this hormone plays in a wide range of processes in the body.

In short, if a person desires health, they must have this hormone available in their bodies. If it is deficient, there will be consequences. Sometimes severe ones.

S & F from me OP, not sure why no one wants to give you a flag, but I'll be the first.

JR

Originally posted by User8911
I hope pro capitalists are happy.
And, what is worst then stealing money off from hard working people while being lazy?

Enough of this capitalist bs, wake up

edit on 28-5-2011 by User8911 because: (no reason given)

not true capitalism. it went far off the track when companies got the right of personhood. true capitalism would allow a free market to determine what was available not someone in a company dictating what is available based on its profitability. it works but the commie america bashing from the inside has clouded the perception of what it should be not what is as like i said its not true capitalism anymore

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I guess since everything does stray from it's path, I believe that isn't true capitalism anymore but...tell me,
How could it be possible for capitalism to not go this far, with it's "laisser faire" idea.

If you put anything above human rights and worth more then anything, it is inevitable that you will end up the exact same way. The trick to make money is to be less human has possible, not saying you can't make money without but if you want to make the most, you simply have to blind yourself and lie to yourself.

Once your full life is built on blindness and lies, you almost have no choice but to go on.

Most economic systems are utopic and capitalism ending up this way is inevitable.
I'm not saying capitalism has no advantages, nothing is only black, but I think money is the number 1 problem in this world because of the way the capitalism is now and would of been anyway.

I see a lot of anti-socialists and the most valid point of not liking socialism seems to be that everyone thinks that everyone will be lazy and will live off the people that are working, which is a valid assumption regarding of how we think and are educated. We have lost all sense of honor and duty to our country and it's people...but that's another story...

I just feel we should point out the laziness of those big companies that are reluctant to change even if what they are doing is killing us. Even if a lot of lazy people would not work in a socialist economy, at least, they wouldn't be getting 80% of the resource (money) while making us sick.

That doesn't mean I believe in everything about socialism!

All things are good in moderation. The people that go into tanning beds, or stay outside until, their skin turns to leather are not going to be very healthy. However, those of us who get a normal, moderate, and healthy amount of sunlight will reap the benefits of natural sunlight.

However, I'm not convinced that chemtrails would be an effective way to prevent people from getting sunlight. That would require cloud cover from sunrise, to sun fall, every single day of the year.

What do I draw from this? Not that chemtrails are designed to make us sick via vitamin D blocking, but that we should spend more time outside, being healthy and active Eat your fruits and veggies and get some daily outdoors exercise

It's a flawed argument, because there are some cities now that get twice as much sunshine as other cities. In Yuma, Arizona, it's sunny 90% of the daylight hours, but in Seattle, Washington, it's only sunny 47%.

So to have a significant effect on health, you'd have to reduce sunlight by more than half. This would be noticeable in sunshine records. But no such change has been recorded. In fact, we actually get MORE sun than we did 20 years ago.

Originally posted by DjDoubleD
According to the research cited in this article, Vitamin D deficiency can lead to the onset of all kinds of nasty. So is there a connection between what is being perceived as chemtrails/geoengineering and the creation/seeding of clouds and an overall plan to encourage ill health? UN Agenda 21 depopulation run amok?


God bless you my friend You have created the most crucial post ever on ATS

I really don`t give a damn if the people - debunkers are blind and stupid

When the debunkers families become riddled with cancers / disease etc

Don`t start whinging like a retarded cretin - you get what you have perceived as folly

Just want to point out, RE: SUNBEDS...every tanning bed place I have ever been to insists that you apply lotion when tanning, they won't let you use the bed without it. Some places insist you use the products in their inventory (very expensive and LOADED with Carcinogens) other places will let you bring in other "indoor tanning" products (Also loaded with carcinogens). So if you were to include this in some type of scientific test to come up with a statistic the use of the lotion would have to be factored in ( eg. a direct rise in cancer in sunbed users may be an effect from the lotion and NOT the UV rays)

I agree with the OP in that sunshine is good for you, makes you happy and healthy, and that we should all go get some!

reply to post by DjDoubleD

How pathetically misinformed or deliberatley misleading did you intend to be with this this thread?

Did you even bother to read the report you cited?

It makes absolutely no connection to "chemtrails" or de-population! Your own poor analysis forces you to jump to the most illogical and unscientific conclusion available; although one that is certainly to be popular among the scientifically-ignorant populace and those with other hidden agendas.

Have you even tried to use common sense in applying the study's findings to reality and personal experience?

You do realize, don't you, that even on a completely overcast day you can get burned by UV rays outside?

Here's what a few other sources say, in case you did not know this, or chose to ignore it in your thread:

Both natural haze and the kind resulting from pollution have a redistributing effect on solar radiation: while they can block UV-B from reaching the earth directly (sometimes reducing overall levels 50 percent or more), they also scatter it all over the place, in effect turning the entire sky into a radiation source. Standing in the open on a hazy day, you may get less UV-B than if the sky were clear (on the other hand, you may not), but over in the shade haze means you'll get lots more.

www.straightdope.com...

Q. Can You Burn on a Cloudy Day?
A.
Actually yes you can. Up to 80% UV rays can travel through clouds, fog and haze. UV rays can even travel through glass... so that means that sitting near a sunny window is putting yourself at risk. That is why it is so important to use a sunscreen that protects you against the aging rays as well as the burning rays.

beauty.about.com...

UV levels are highest under cloudless skies, and cloud cover generally reduces a person's exposure. However, light or thin clouds have little effect and may even enhance UV levels because of scattering. Don't be fooled by an overcast day or a cool breeze! Even a long stay in open shade, for example between buildings, may give a sensitive person a sunburn on a day with high UV levels.

www.who.int...

Why do you sunburn on a cloudy day?
One of the most common reminders issued by dermatologists and anti-cancer organisations relates to the daily use of sunscreens, even on days when it is overcast or cloudy. Harmful ultraviolet (UV) rays can still penetrate the earth’s atmosphere and may even be intensified on such days, posing a greater risk than on clear days.

www.clinuvel.com...

Don't want to trust others, who might be "capitalists" or "government shills"?

Why don't we just look at what your source says in their own report:

Researchers discovered vitamin D deficiencies among the following people:

People spending most of their time indoors,
People regularly covering all their skin with clothing,
People regularly slathering on sunscreen,
People aged 50 and older,
People with excessive body fat,
People with inflammatory bowel disease, and
People living far from the equator. For example, the following cities have high cancer rates: Seattle, Toronto, Boston, London, Dublin, Helsinki, Copenhagen, Berlin, Moscow, and Anchorage.

Researchers found that dark-skinned people living in cold climate regions are more susceptible to vitamin D deficiency, because their skin filters out more sunlight than light-skinned people.

presscore.ca...


Maybe if we worked or played or just walked around a little more outdoors, instead of posting and reading drivel on YouTube and ATS, we would see Vitamin D increases.

Oh, and what single recommendation did your source provide?

In other words … turn off your computers, TVs, video games, and go outside

deny ignorance

jw

reply to post by jdub297


More clouds = less sun. Artificial blockage of vitamin D by creating clouds thinking or claiming its to decrease 'global warming'. This is the connection between making fake clouds and the potential for vitamin D modulation(blockage/restriction) to increase incidences of ill health. Make clouds and people die? Not quite like that. But people in ill health perhaps have that health increasingly deteriorated. They die, of course, of natural causes. Just sooner than they would have otherwise.
All in line with Agenda 21 as per the UN (or Ted Turner or Prince Philip) and its' depopulation agenda.
Keeping an open mind is how I can perceive the potential link. I never said it was concrete, it was merely postulation. Your objections and contentions are duly noted and filed. Thank you for your input!

DD
(Btw I never said the article made that connection, I was filling in the obvious blanks, with MY OWN INTERPRETATION!)

reply to post by DjDoubleD


Big pharma are responsible for chemtrail operations.

Blocking the sunlight leads to illness.

Plenty of room in Hell for these human parasites.

reply to post by DjDoubleD

Artificial blockage of vitamin D by creating clouds thinking or claiming its to decrease 'global warming'. This is the connection between making fake clouds and the potential for vitamin D modulation(blockage/restriction) to increase incidences of ill health.

This ignores the fact that UV penetrates and is scattered by clouds!

Cloud cover does not necessarily obstruct all IUV. Even if "they" covered the entire sky around the world (which no sane person seriously contends), some UV-A and UV-B will still leak through. Is that so hard to understand?

If the sky and ground are illuminated, sunlight (across the spectrum) is getting through.

Have you just convinced yourself that if the sky is overcast, then there is no sunlight? Do you live in total (metaphorical) darkness?

Other life that depends upon the full spectrum of sunlight seems to be thriving, or didn't you notice? Plants, animals that "see" in UV are getting by somehow, but people are being poisoned?

deny ignorance!

jw