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HAARP Has Been Firing At Max Power (1 Billion Watts) At The New Madrid Fault Zone

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posted on May, 28 2011 @ 12:14 PM
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Totally bogus thread... HAARP doesn't have billions of watts... When ever I see Red Cloaks stats, I'm gonna think to myself -1 star, -1 flag




posted on May, 28 2011 @ 12:35 PM
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Not only this:


That region has a history of storms triggering mass numbers of tornados.


And, all the rest.....anyone who pays attention to the global weather patterns (and paid attention in school, to science and meteorology courses) would know about the cyclic phenomenon called "El Niño".


El Niño - and What is the Southern Oscillation Anyway?! (Article written in 2003)

It is believed that El Nino may have contributed to the 1993 Mississippi and 1995 California floods, drought conditions in South America, Africa and Australia. It is also believed that El Nino contributed to the lack of serious storms such as hurricanes in the North Atlantic which spared states like Florida from serious storm related damage.




El Niño: Online meteorology guide

Impacts on global weather

Detection and Prediction



So What is an El Niño, Anyway?



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by mahon
137.229.36.30...


The charts are a bit active today!


I love people who try to claim an observer causes an event!



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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Originally posted by phatpackage
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at the New Madrid fault line.


I am sick of this HAARP business once and for all! Show me your proof this is happening. Not some "Conspiracy Blog" or website! Real scientific proof verified multiple scientific sources that would stand up in court of law as real evidence! Not some "Gut feeling" or opinion either!

bet you can't prove it!




Your thread should be removed to the Hoax board until proven otherwise! Disgrace! Show the proof that HAARP is anything other than what the HAARP scientists say it is!

Unless proven evidence can be produced that HAARP is actually sinister this needs to end on ATS!



We can't prove it... yet. That is what we are trying to do, connect the dots and see if the picture comes together (or not)



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by JJDoggie84
Totally bogus thread... HAARP doesn't have billions of watts... When ever I see Red Cloaks stats, I'm gonna think to myself -1 star, -1 flag


He is Olympiakos fan... what you expect?



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by tinker9917

Originally posted by phatpackage
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at the New Madrid fault line.


I am sick of this HAARP business once and for all! Show me your proof this is happening. Not some "Conspiracy Blog" or website! Real scientific proof verified multiple scientific sources that would stand up in court of law as real evidence! Not some "Gut feeling" or opinion either!

bet you can't prove it!




Your thread should be removed to the Hoax board until proven otherwise! Disgrace! Show the proof that HAARP is anything other than what the HAARP scientists say it is!

Unless proven evidence can be produced that HAARP is actually sinister this needs to end on ATS!



We can't prove it... yet. That is what we are trying to do, connect the dots and see if the picture comes together (or not)



Then people should stop making outrageous claims WITHOUT EVER supplying ONE SHREAD of EVIDENCE.

Threads like this are laughable.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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The US can't even make a reliable quality microwave oven.


That could just be the single-best debunk one-line statement against HAARP being used for nefarious purposes that I have ever read on ATS.







posted on May, 28 2011 @ 02:16 PM
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Thank you for this thread. Today, just like before Japan EQ we have had solar activity (class M right before Japan, and borderline class C/M today), www.swpc.noaa.gov...

HAARP activity right before Japan 137.229.36.30... 10315+2W+500+GAK+HDZ

, and also today.
137.229.36.30... 110529+1M+1000+GAK+HDZ

I know you believe what you believe and alot of us are questioning the relationship between these things, so hang in there and one of these days somebody's theories (or yours) may just become "proof" because you helped them get there.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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Thank you for this thread. Today, just like before Japan EQ we have had solar activity (class M right before Japan, and borderline class C/M today), www.swpc.noaa.gov...

HAARP activity right before Japan 137.229.36.30... 10315+2W+500+GAK+HDZ

, and also today.
137.229.36.30... 110529+1M+1000+GAK+HDZ

I know you believe what you believe and alot of us are questioning the relationship between these things, so hang in there and one of these days somebody's theories (or yours) may just become "proof" because you helped them get there.

Be safe, and I don't blame you for leaving for a bit. I would too if I were you, and I could, "just in case".



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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Where are your calculations?



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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Because that measures magnetic activity NOT HAARP and the KP Index has been a 6 today.

The Magnetometer at HAARP is NOT a measurement of when the Ionospheric Heating side is working.

What this instrument is doing is measuring the magnetic flux, in effect measuring solar wind and lightning and NOT HAARP output.

At best what this tells you is that there may be a connection between the solar winds and earthquakes, but NOT HAARP. Earthquake wise it is actually very quiet at present so I don't think the conjunction of the CME have any effect.

And I am not alone in thinking this:
Xcalibur254

The magnetometer does not indicate whether HAARP is on or not. In fact it detects completely different frequencies than those that HAARP puts out. If this indicates anything it would be that solar activity does indeed have an effect on plate tectonics.


subject x

Both of these instruments are in use whether HAARP is active or not, so as to have a consistant data group from which to make an accurate analysis of HAARP's effects when active. Fluctuations in the readouts of these instruments are not an automatic indication of HAARP being active.


Phage

What you have shown is the trace from a magnetometer located at the HAARP facility. A magnetometer is an instrument which measures fluctuations in the Earth's magnetic field. These fluctuations are caused primarily by the solar wind.


I could go on and on but....from the Magnetometer page.....


Magnetic field variations of interest in this program are those induced by electric currents in the ionosphere. The major signal categories detected by the induction magnetometer are short period magnetic pulsations such as Pc1, Pc2, Pc3, PiB, and PiC in a frequency range above a few tens of milliHertz. Among these, the induction magnetometer most efficiently detects Pc1 waves in the frequency range from 0.1 Hz to 3 Hz. Pc1 signals are the result of ion-cyclotron radiation generated near the equatorial plane of the outer-magnetosphere that make their way to the ionosphere guided by the magnetic lines of force. In addition, signals generated in the atmosphere that are caused by lightning discharges, the Schuman resonances, are also detected and sometimes become strong enough to mask signals from the ionosphere.



edit on 28/5/2011 by PuterMan because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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I agree with Chadwickas. You are keeping trac of haarp ? How ? You provide no source or proof or even proof of source ? Just, I'm running, eveybody run ! Psych ? Even if you're being perfectly honest ? Your thread can't be taken seriously. So why did you post it?



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 02:43 PM
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Yes, since we are moving toward solar maximum it can be expected that we will see more solar activity. Does that mean more earthquakes? Evidence does not seem to indicate so.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's like when you're getting in the shower (A) and the phone rings (B). Most of the time it doesn't happen but when it does it's really annoying and you are made particularly aware of it. Does it mean that getting into the shower induces someone (anyone) to call you at that moment? What about all those times you get into the shower and the phone doesn't ring? Is something preventing those people from calling at that moment? Is the correlation of (A) and (B) of any significance?

Now, let's say it's your birthday and you've got a lot of friends and family. All these people are calling to offer you their best wishes. You're getting a lot more calls than you normally do. The chances are greatly increased that just as you step into the shower someone will call. On your birthday the chances of (B) following (A) are increased.

Do you understand what's happening? Two unrelated events which, when they occur simultaneously, you notice more than you normally would. Now if you increase the frequency of just one of those events. You increase the chances that both will occur at the same time.

Now, instead of getting into the shower we have an earthquake (A) and instead of a phone call we have solar activity (B). When there isn't much solar activity (solar minimum) there are just as many earthquakes as there ever are. Sometimes an earthquake follows solar activity and sometimes it doesn't. But what happens at solar maximum? That phone is ringing (B) a lot more often. Because there is more solar activity, the chances that an earthquake will follow it are increased, even though the earthquake would have happened anyway. The correlation is dependent upon the frequency of only one of the events. Now, if the occurrence of (A) and (B) increase and decrease together the correlation is stronger (though causation is still not implied). But in the case of earthquakes and solar activity that relationship is not seen. All we see is that sometimes an earthquake occurs after solar activity, the same way that sometimes the phone rings when you step into the shower.




Oh, about the induction magnetometer. Remember this?
www.abovetopsecret.com...
After all that, did anything happen?

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posted on May, 28 2011 @ 02:52 PM
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Damn Phage. That's an excellent explanation for the layman. You make it sound so innocent. To innocent really.


edit on 28-5-2011 by randyvs because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by Misterlondon
this poster constantly posts these fearmongering threads.. and never posts sources or links.. and never answers to questions asked..
i wouldnt take him seriously..



Serious fear monger, It makes me nauseous every time I see a post from him.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 02:57 PM
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Can you tell me where you found that chart? (link if possible)

It appears to be giving the time something was on, but what?



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 02:58 PM
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I'm speechless at all the people that come in here with their..." Give me the proof..Give me the proof"

When starting a post you should always post your evidence... with that said: *God I hate that saying* haha~

Most know how to look up HARRPS link when being sarcastic with their " Give me the Proof, Give me the Proof"

HARRPS website IS SHOWING some sort of *extra* activity.

I do believe that these *Occurrences are both caused by HARRP and or Comet Elenin, or both *

I'm NOT completely convinced that's why we collect more evidence and study the *dots* we need to connect.

Thanx poster

Here's a DOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! **********FEMA planned EXCERSIZE concerning THE MADRID FAULT LINE! *************

More PROOF* *** HARRP damaging evidence it's being used and not for good

edit on 28-5-2011 by tracehd1 because: more proof



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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That, sir, is the most lucid explanation I have ever read.


They still won't believe you because they don't want to.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 03:07 PM
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HARRPS website IS SHOWING some sort of *extra* activity.


Yes it is called the Sun and the CME that just arrived. Try looking at the KP index and read my post about the magnetometer. It does not measure HAARP.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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People do forget to look at weather history for the facts.
It's like there are these little private "cyber wars" as well as public "cyber wars" going on these days
concerning information in general. A whose who list of liars, cons, conspiracy theorists, fear mongers,
truthers, shills who play with the facts to create their own reality. Not saying there is not reason for
suspicion..of course there is and one can never turn a blind eye and always think inside the box less
is one is very comfortable and well protected inside the red box???? or is it blue box hahahaha granny here
does NOT keep up very well...sorry about that. I'm not name calling, it's just hard to pick out the facts from
the fancy that's all.





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