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Sarah Palin, Keynesian Economics, Suppy-Side Economics and Ronald Reagan

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posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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It's death by 1,000 cuts in California. Big fat fees for anything and everything.
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I can only see things getting worse.
Apparently, socialism doesn't work.




posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
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It's death by 1,000 cuts in California. Big fat fees for anything and everything.
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I can only see things getting worse.
Apparently, socialism doesn't work.


If socialist spending isn't working, then they're obviously not spending enough!
(just kidding)



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by Janky Red
Sen. Phil Gramm (R, Texas),
Rep. Jim Leach (R, Iowa), and Rep.
Thomas J. Bliley, Jr. (R, Virginia)

co-sponsors of the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act which initiated the legal structure to loan and insure the
same companies loans under the same roof, in the name of free enterpise of course
This "risk" was bundled rated AAA and then traded, the validity of the loans were comprised of bad faith in lending which is the act of many individuals, So why don't you learn and arm yourself with real knowledge???



You may earn your living under the capitalist system but you clearly despise it. I have started and run three successful businesses and now do not have to work so I am understandably fond of capitalism.

Found some real knowledge to share with you, and it's even from one of your favorite sources:

www.cato.org...



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by daddyroo45

.Trickle down economics works,so long as the government keeps its grubby paws out of the business.


And what has happened since the institution of trickle down economics?

This nation was in much better shape prior to the initiation of Trickle Down, the last 30 years are a testament to it.

Your idea does not action for the FACT that business regularly engages government and has funded every single
modern day candidate, you are setting up a fascade of thought, it is contagious here. I am not saying be anti business, I am saying see it for what it is.



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by wasco2

Originally posted by Janky Red
Sen. Phil Gramm (R, Texas),
Rep. Jim Leach (R, Iowa), and Rep.
Thomas J. Bliley, Jr. (R, Virginia)

co-sponsors of the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act which initiated the legal structure to loan and insure the
same companies loans under the same roof, in the name of free enterpise of course
This "risk" was bundled rated AAA and then traded, the validity of the loans were comprised of bad faith in lending which is the act of many individuals, So why don't you learn and arm yourself with real knowledge???



You may earn your living under the capitalist system but you clearly despise it.


Clearly you cannot follow a string of logic Wasco, I hate corporatism, I hate conservative ideology that promotes corporatism. You can't see that this nation is being pillaged?

Your link and its explaination are rediculous, are you dumb?

Do you understand that the GLB act established a scheme, through deregulation, where a company can
loan money and then insure that same money...

Wasco, for the love of Texas why are you willing to buy into bull?

If I have $5.15 (capital base) to my name

I loan you $5 (loan)

I now have $0.15

Then for $0.30 (insurance policy), I determine that if you lose that five dollars, I will repay that $5 WHEN
you lose that money.

Now how on Earth can I repay $5 with $.15 (reserve funds) and $0.30 (insurance premium)?

That is $4.55 short of what I have promised to insure, that is fraudulent, that is the GLB act of 1999

GLB established this EXACT concept Wasco, I am really frustrated with people like you, just do the math
and you will see FOR YOURSELF, that a company with less than 10% reserve fund CANNOT begin to
pay their business obligations in good faith. Deregulation for you...

Why not distiguish between GOOD business and BAD business, that is what conservative used to stand for, American values have been replaced with zero values, zero morality or character.
edit on 3-6-2011 by Janky Red because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 3 2011 @ 02:37 PM
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good business is neither a borrower or lender be.

good business is having your own bank that prints money out of thin air and charge people interest on something that never existed in the first place.

its evil but pure genius.



posted on Jun, 4 2011 @ 09:12 AM
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All this talk about capitialism and communism reminds me of a great speech by Danny
DeVito in Other Peoples Money.
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It looks like they really are hiding in the bushes.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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I advise you to look up the true meaning of the word "liberal" in a dictionary. You seem to use it as some kind of cuss word.

You will find things quite different to the far right neo-fascist propaganda woven around this word by Hannity and Limbaugh and the like. Yes, the word "liberal" in political science HAS already a meaning, it is originally someone who opposed royal and papal power and stood for individual freedom as much as the freedom of other individual members of society allowed.

Yet today only a fool cannot see that the chief enemy of individual freedom is corporatocracy (which Reagan and Bush No 1 as well as No 2 as well as Clinton supported heartily) and not kings or popes.

Can you say anything to my points - or are YOU just attacking the messenger because you dislike the message? For that is all your last post consists of.



posted on Jun, 14 2011 @ 06:17 PM
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I know the original meaning of liberal. Though they still use it most of today's self professed "liberals" are really progressives/socialists/communists.

As for "corporatocracy", it's nothing more than far left conspiracy theory. Today's Federal politicians want only two things, power and personal wealth. They will do anything to get re-elected and keep, and increase, their personal power. They are a little more circumspect when it comes to increasing personal wealth because most things a politician has to do to increase personal wealth are at worst illegal and at best usually immoral and/or unethical. Not that that bothers most politicians but it does mean they open themselves up to prosecution or censure and that worries them. To the extent corporations can provide wealth or power politicians are beholden to them but it's a fragile relationship and one the politician will abandon at the first sign of trouble.



posted on Jun, 15 2011 @ 05:39 PM
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So what is your political vision?

I know liberals who are not Socialist, Communist or anything like that. Progressive, yes. But the classical definition of a liberal for over a century has been actually closer to the American concept of a libertarian. Media ideologues of the likes of Hannity and Limbaugh simplify things for their pro-corporate agenda and use this word divorced from its original meaning: someone who wants maximum freedom for individual citizens (not "legal entities" like corporations.) This requires community decision-making though, but the roots go all the way back to Walden.

By definition, a bolshevik cannot be a liberal, the same way a Nazi cannot be one. These are mutually exclusive. A Socialist can be a liberal but some are not.

Classical liberalism is in conflict with the enormous power "legal entities" hold over individuals these days.

I agree to your astute description of present-day politicians. This is a corrupt system, viewd from either the left or the right (by a good conservative I mean someone that wants to conserve some values - like ones behind the the US Constitution.)




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