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Woman spits on another at a local Wal-Mart, faces deportation to Saudi Arabia

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posted on May, 27 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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i know you are not judging but others will do it...to propagate racist ideas ... this woman is uneducated, it does not come from his nationality but his education,i had to deal with stupid french, american, german and asian or arabe but i never say they are violent or idiot because they come from a particular country no they are just idiot!!!

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posted on May, 27 2011 @ 07:52 PM
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I believe spitting in someone's face is a universal insult, which we all understand, do we not?
The vid said she not only spit on the "door" victim, but another woman inside the store.
She has come here to study, so she is a guest in our country, here but for our hospitality? Maybe she should be invited to leave, to any location of her choosing, but invited to leave nonetheless.

Ya know, I'm not confident that the woman she spit on "politely" informed her of using the wrong door, though.
She even sounded annoyed when she said the woman was pushing her cart against the door, so I suspect the "victim" was upset about it, maybe angered, possibly lashed out at her. It's possible she was not polite at all, but rude.

In any case, it's not a very nice way to treat your American hosts and hostesses. It will be interesting to see how far they get in bringing "hate-crime" charges. Sounds more like misdemeanor harassment, assault, or something closer to "menacing" to me.

But then, that's just a guess.



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 07:57 PM
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After reviewing the article and the video, there are a few things that can be stated:
If it was a one time thing, then deportation would be a bit over the top, however, according to the article and the video, she did it more than once against different people, who got in her way. It was wrong the first time, and it was wrong every time after that. She did not learn her lesson the first time, and it was apparent that she was not going to learn it again. Ultimately she is a guest in this country, be it that she likes it or not, but she is not only a guest but a representative of her country. What does that say to anyone who would be watching the video, about Saudi Arabia and the people from that country? It does not paint a good light on them and there is no indication that she was planning on being a citizen of this country what so ever. No, in this case, deport her back is the correct thing to do, as she did break the law, and would continue to do such. If any who are a guest in this country breaks the law, should be sent back, as it is only correct for such.



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by pitchdragon
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i could not say i'm a strong guy with muscle
but there was a guy who came and ask me if i'm ok, the two guys had run and it ended well... and i had a lot of fun in chicago...


The fact that the two guys ran---shows them to be cowards as well. I am glad that you are ok and you had fun in Chicago. To be honest, I don't know anyone who is a spitter. It is unfortunate that you ran into one. If you ever encounter anyone that horrid again in America, call the police. It is a crime.
~~Linda



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 08:13 PM
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Spitting on someone is considered assault. If you doubt that for a second, go ask a cop or better yet go spit on a cop and let us all know how it works out for you.

I do not think she should be deported for assault, however if it is something that continues, she runs the risk of being labeled a habitual offender. If that were to happen, I can see deportation as an option.



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 08:17 PM
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You are very gracious. I'm sorry all this junk has happened to you, but it sounds like you have a good level head, and see it for what it is. Idiots come in all nationalities. I'm told every village has one.



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 08:49 PM
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the only legitimate reason to deport an individual is if they are an ILLEGAL alien, if they are however a citizen, then this is their country just as much as it is ours, deport the illegals for they are not citizens only criminals, to be an illegal resident is by definition a crime therefor any illegal alien is a criminal, deport them,

if this lady is a legal citizen then the judge ought to send her to anger management classes, or even fine her or jail her for biological attack, spit after all can carry biological diseases therefor spitting on someone is considered a biological attack,

if she is a legal citizen and is being deported, then the judge is basically saying this country belongs to government and law enforcement and NO ONE ELSE, because if this country is of any belonging to its legal citizens and she is one, then they have no more right to throw her out then she does to throw them out.
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posted on May, 27 2011 @ 08:52 PM
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posted on May, 27 2011 @ 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by pryingopen3rdeye
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the only legitimate reason to deport an individual is if they are an ILLEGAL alien, if they are however a citizen, then this is their country just as much as it is ours, deport the illegals for they are not citizens only criminals, to be an illegal resident is by definition a crime therefor any illegal alien is a criminal, deport them,

if this lady is a legal citizen then the judge ought to send her to anger management classes, or even fine her or jail her for biological attack, spit after all can carry biological diseases therefor spitting on someone is considered a biological attack,

if she is a legal citizen and is being deported, then the judge is basically saying this country belongs to government and law enforcement and NO ONE ELSE, because if this country is of any belonging to its legal citizens and she is one, then they have no more right to throw her our then she does to throw them out.


Did you read the article at all?




Nuha Mohammed Al-Doaifi, a Saudi Arabian national, faces a charge of battery with a hate-crime enhancement after Palm Bay police were called about 1 p.m. Sunday to the Walmart at 1040 Malabar Road to investigate reports of a disturbance.


Saudi Arabian national.



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by CN1018
I think deportation is a little excessive.

That sorta proves her argument that Americans are pushing her around.



Yes God forbid someone come to this country and abide by our laws.

Feel free to visit saudi, go drive a car and dont wear your hijab and see what happens.



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 09:10 PM
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Good. Deport her. If she's that hateful towards Americans then she shouldn't be in America.

She has committed a criminal offense - assault - and should be returned to where she came from if she's an immigrant.

I strongly agree that all immigrants who are convicted of crimes should be deported to their home countries immediately, regardless of whether or not they'll be persecuted at home.

They had a chance for a new life in the USA, and gave it up by committing a criminal act. No matter how trivial the criminal act might seem to those in the USA, a second chance means that this is a clean slate. If the immigrant decides to sully the slate with acts of hatred and other criminal acts, send them home, immediately.

The American tax payer doesn't need to be paying for them to laugh at the inadequacies of the American legal system. Treat them exactly the same way a criminal would be treated in their own country, and then send them home.



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by Advantage

Originally posted by pryingopen3rdeye
reply to post by mblahnikluver
 


the only legitimate reason to deport an individual is if they are an ILLEGAL alien, if they are however a citizen, then this is their country just as much as it is ours, deport the illegals for they are not citizens only criminals, to be an illegal resident is by definition a crime therefor any illegal alien is a criminal, deport them,

if this lady is a legal citizen then the judge ought to send her to anger management classes, or even fine her or jail her for biological attack, spit after all can carry biological diseases therefor spitting on someone is considered a biological attack,

if she is a legal citizen and is being deported, then the judge is basically saying this country belongs to government and law enforcement and NO ONE ELSE, because if this country is of any belonging to its legal citizens and she is one, then they have no more right to throw her our then she does to throw them out.


Did you read the article at all?




Nuha Mohammed Al-Doaifi, a Saudi Arabian national, faces a charge of battery with a hate-crime enhancement after Palm Bay police were called about 1 p.m. Sunday to the Walmart at 1040 Malabar Road to investigate reports of a disturbance.


Saudi Arabian national.


so its a grey area then, not a citizen and not an illegal,

then a grey decision



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 12:20 AM
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I'm still confused as to how spitting on people constitutes a hate crime. I mean, seriously, I'm super confused. Maybe my brain ran away with the spoon or something.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 12:47 AM
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Its a hate crime because she spit on people, saying "Americans are pushing us around"... She only spits on Americans... go figure.

She should be deported because this could escalate into something else. Im sure she wont get the freedoms in her native country as she did here though. Seems strange... in her country she cant even drive, and has to wear a veil, but she comes here and says we are pushing her around. I think she is looking to make some quick money from some sort of law suit. Of course, she could just be a moron and I am illogically trying to reason her actions out.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 12:49 AM
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What a doofus.

Tip to immigrants; don't commit an assault if your citizenship hasn't been completed. you get deported for that stuff. And yes, saliva is assault. Learn you some Hep B, fool.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 12:55 AM
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I'm glad it worked out well for you, in the end. I've never been to Chicago and don't want to visit there. But that's just me, not liking big cities. I'm happy that you enjoyed the rest of your visit!

Spitting on people is a disgusting action. Just think about it. I can watch a movie and a bad guy kicks the living snot out of someone, then he'll spit on the broken and beaten opponent. It's more than just spitting. It's an action that has long been identified as a major humiliation for centuries.

And with diseases, such as HIV, able to be transmitted via saliva, it can be a deadly action.

Deportation? Maybe. The lady obviously is not happy where she is, so I suppose she might want to return to her home country and not be pushed around by Americans. Instead she can be pushed around by religious fanatics.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by kyred
Deportation? Maybe. The lady obviously is not happy where she is, so I suppose she might want to return to her home country and not be pushed around by Americans. Instead she can be pushed around by religious fanatics.


Well, while I don't condone her actions - see above, I fully support the notion that if you break the law, deportation is what you face - there's the possibility that maybe she'd really been treated like crap by people and had just reached her "breaking point."



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 01:13 AM
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Sounds to me like an angry bitter person who has a lot of saliva to share with the world.

Charge the offender according to the appropriate assault crime laws, and be done with it. The offender will either learn to adjust their behaviour, or they won't.

Three strikes (criminal charges) and you're out (jail or deportation if you're not a full fledged citizen).

It's pretty simple really... no need to get all "political" about it.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 02:12 AM
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This can't be a hate crime based on race as Saudi Arabians are Caucasian. Though the article didn't say if all those she spat on were also Caucasion. I guess it could be considered a hate crime based on her focusing on a group of people which in this case are Americans. I don't know. I'm confused.

And what is her reason for being in the US? Is she here on a student visa? The article gave me the impression that the procedure for deportation began after she spat at her professor. So that is why I surmise she's here on a student visa. But then the article wasn't very clear. Though if that is the case, and if the university kicks her out, then she would have to return to Saudi Arabia.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 02:42 AM
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They say when someone is caught committing a criminal offense - that there are many more offenses that were committed where they didn't get caught. So, I'm wondering how may spitting victims will come forward now accusing this person of state-wide spit crimes and being a chronic spit abuser.

Yet, this person will probably not be deported over this one incident, unless this is a repeat offense or a very well documented "hate crime". Because it appears that this person is a legal temporary resident, probably on a student visa. This grants them legal permission to reside and study in the US, yet without full citizenship status. A person with a US visa must abide by all US and immigration laws and requirements, if not, they can risk having the visa revoked and then be deported (in that order).

In revoking a visa, immigration procedures and legal proceeding are usually followed first. This gives the visa holder an opportunity to make a valid defense. More than likely the attorney seen in the video is an immigration attorney. If the visa is revoked after this process, then that person does not have US authorization to stay in the country and will be requested to leave and eventually be deported if they refuse.

So, if this person does end up getting her visa revoked for spit crimes against Floridians, then more than likely there is more to it (repeat spitter, real hate crime, etc.). It's more probable that she will be tagged by US immigration as a spit risk and be allowed to keep her visa. If it happens again then her chances of getting her visa revoked will increase substantially until it is officially revoked. Then she may get a SPIT OFFENDER stamp in her passport next to her visa stamp.

I would rather be cursed at, kicked, punched, slapped, poked, pinched, maybe even branded than spit on. I don't care what country of origin the spit is from. The only thing maybe worse than being spit on is being bitten.



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