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GRAPHIC CONTENT: Teacher Beats Children

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posted on May, 28 2011 @ 07:20 AM
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Well that was Mature, thankyou i wont bother.


Originally posted by BLKMJK
Don't waste your time,I am not reading anything you write to me though I am sure it is profound.




posted on May, 28 2011 @ 07:24 AM
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Lmaooo @ this being graphic.

My mom used to get whipped with water hoses back in the day.
Them children will be aight.

Damn you people are sensitive.
I could understand if he punched them in the face, and cut them with a hot knife that was left over a stove.

Smh.
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posted on May, 28 2011 @ 07:24 AM
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I hate these quotey things

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posted on May, 28 2011 @ 07:25 AM
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I agree completely, unfortunately there are those who Believe that the only way to teach
a Child that hitting is Wrong, is by hitting them... And that's whats wrong with this world, sadly.


Originally posted by boo1981

Originally posted by Char-Lee

"...I was never beaten or spanked as a child but I would do it to my kids in a heartbeat...

I disciplined just like the video, I actualy had teachers call me for advice on child rearing and ask me how I had such wonderful children, they grew up to be people anyone would be proud of! they have never used drugs or abused alcohol and are happily married with careers.

On the other hand in my family of 7 children where we were never never disciplined and in my husbands family of 4 children who were NEVER disciplined the majority became messed up drug and alcohol abusers no careers no goals did poorly in school no college...the rest are severly depressed only 3 out of all of both families total 10 kids turned out moderatly ok.


So your motto is "beat a kid into growing up right!"
Both my parents were never hit/beaten and they have grown to be brilliant parents and people. I know people now that were beaten/smacked as children who now live bad lives full of drugs and bad life in general. I was never beaten/smacked as a child and I have a good family unit and children.

When I punish my children they have to go sit on the "naughty chair". My son hates it the most and will get very upset. I couldn’t imagine how much more upset he would be if I hit him!!! I just couldn’t do it. I’ve been raised with the belief that you should never pick on or attack somebody smaller or more vulnerable than yourself. This to me also includes smacking a child. This is just my beliefs and opinion, just as you have yours in the above quote.




posted on May, 28 2011 @ 07:27 AM
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err,, ooops?
It's really getting hard to focus right now



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 07:29 AM
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Well maybe thats because way back in the olden days kids were made out of leather, from being hit so often maybe? hmm


Originally posted by DuceizBack
Lmaooo @ this being graphic.

My mom used to get whipped with water hoses back in the day.
Them children will be aight.

Damn you people are sensitive.
I could understand if he punched them in the face, and cut them with a hot knife that was left over a stove.

Smh.
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posted on May, 28 2011 @ 07:30 AM
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Originally posted by awareness10
I agree completely, unfortunately there are those who Believe that the only way to teach
a Child that hitting is Wrong, is by hitting them... And that's whats wrong with this world, sadly.




I must have missed those posts.

It aint the only way, but it's a decent tool to have at your disposal.

Plenty of ways to skin a cat, no?


edit on 28-5-2011 by lazernation because: GRRRRRRRR.... I shall never quote again.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 07:35 AM
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Children need a beating if they can't control themselves. If they are being rude, aggressive towards teacher and/or schoolmates - it is acceptable to hit them. I mean if parents are idiots and can't raise a child - why does everyone else in school have to deal with consequences? Parents are to blame and parents are to be punished - if that doesn't help teacher must be the one who beats some respect into youths.

On other hand - beating a child for bad homework... is stupid. If a child doesn't want do homework... it's his choice. I mean he doesn't harm anyone by not doing his homework, right?

If the child is an evil bully with no respect against anyone - I say beat the sit out of him.

If however he has low grades and he doesn't do homeworks - Talk with him and his parents about education. And if parents choose to punish him... let them do it... it's up to them.

Speaking as a child myself. Schools are full with stupid children with no respect against anyone.

P.S. - I truly wish I was beaten more for wrong doings in school... I'd have more respect for other people and their feelings. Also I'd watch my language and I'd control my self better.
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posted on May, 28 2011 @ 07:50 AM
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So what are you trying to say? That all us men are child abusers???? I certainly hope not, because that would be so far off the mark, it's sad.

I can tell you now, that having 2 young girls myself, that if ANYONE did them any harm whatsoever, they may as well be forfeiting their lives. And if I saw anyone causing a young child harm by beating them, I can tell you now, there would be a LONG queue behind me to teach the person what for.

The point most people that agree with corporal punishment are trying to make, is that sometimes it is a necessary evil. Nobody, except the depraved and sick, likes seeing a child get hurt. And the majority of people that see a child get hurt would do something to stop that child getting hurt. As I have said before, there is a hell of a difference between abusing a child, and giving them a quick smack to teach them that there are consequences for bad behaviour, and bad actions.

And I can tell you now, that yes, I have smacked my eldest, and it has pained me to do so, but it was a last resort, when the sitting down and explaining to her didn't work after several attempts.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by Rockdisjoint
Children need a beating every now and then.

Maybe the kids were failing in class or something, idk, but it didn't look bad at all to me.


Since we're imparting opinions, I'm of the belief that any cowards lacking the empathy to see what's wrong with this deserve a beating every now and then.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 08:24 AM
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This was normal when I was a kid - in America. I remember rulers, being picked up by the hair on the back of my head. I remember one teacher picked a kid up and tossed him because the kid wouldn't go to the stage - where kids misbehaving were supposed to stand and reflect and the age of 8.

This is grade school in the 70s/80s. I imagine it's much different today. The scene with the girl really bothered me, but hitting kids in the hand with a ruler isn't a big deal. Sure, as a parent it makes you angry when you see it, but I would guess that many parents have disciplined their own kids in a similar way behind closed doors - we all get frustrated with them, but it sure isn't an excuse to beat them in the head. If that was my girl, I'd be furious.

No for something more controversial. Let's face it. Today's kids are wimps compared to the older generation, lazy and stupid. That scares me. I kept in touch with a high school teacher over the years after I graduated. After he retired he told me that today's kids don't compare in anyway to the kids he had 20 years before it. Sure, they may be technologically smarter with all their gadgets, but don't compare in basic skills and problem solving. Many have chips on their shoulders and don't understand responsibility. Then they go off to college, drink/drug for 4 years and still don't take responsibility for what they do. Then they get a job, fail, get fired and live off unemployment. Maybe it's just the area where I grew up going to hell ...

Here's looking forward to the future ...



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by DuceizBack
Lmaooo @ this being graphic.

My mom used to get whipped with water hoses back in the day.
Them children will be aight.

Damn you people are sensitive.
I could understand if he punched them in the face, and cut them with a hot knife that was left over a stove.

Smh.


Maybe that's where they went wrong with your Mom. She failed and ended up raising a child void of empathy (you).

As someone complaining about the sensitivity of other ATS members, I trust you'll be able to take my honest supposition squarely on the chin without becoming emotionally indignant, right?
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posted on May, 28 2011 @ 08:32 AM
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LOL! Well played sir


Though I used to get the smack down, I have never laid a finger on any of my 3 kids, well one is 21. I am fortunate in that they all are great kids and I know it would only cause more harm than good. Talking and taking the Xbox and Play Station always did the trick.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 08:32 AM
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Kids need to be hit more often.

...But not by their teachers for how well they did on their homework. That's completely retarded.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 08:48 AM
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Has no one in this thread read Nietzsche?

This is the standard way to teach lower class people.



Remember the great deception is that there is anything such as Good & Evil.

Good is opposed by Bad.
Evil is opposed by Righteousness, not by good.

By twisting the opposition pairs the elite masters of the world have created an environment where it is their Job to try and do good, but the worst they can do is bad. Not evil. They just do a bad job. No corporal punishment.

Look at how people who commit financial crimes are treated vs. someone who commits assault.

The lower class on the other hand must be righteous, because if they are not they are evil. Nothing a lower class person can do is ever going to be good. They can only do what is right. As defined from above.


What we have here is a lower class teacher, separating the righteous from the evil, just as they have been taught.

This is what Nietzsche meant by slave morality.






But those of you who are advocating reciprocal violence against the teacher are actually in danger of being seen by the secret masters of the world, as no better than a slave rebellion.

Remember that when the German Dictator for Life was rising in power, he put together the "brown shirts" who's job it was, to go out into the streets and literally "beat up" the opposition parties. See, that madman revolted against the injustice of it all too. But he used the morality of the lower class against the upper class intentionally. A form of metaphysical reprisal.

Calling for the beating of this teacher proves one thing. The persons who wrote it were raised with a slave morality. An upper class person would advocate an administrative reprimand go in their record. And to the upper class this is far more serious. A beating heals. A mark on the record _never_ goes away.




.[color=gold]On the other hand, those who are calling for the end of corporal punishment are susceptible to countercharges of how evil our kids can be. Ending corporal punishment without teaching a complete set of upper class skills like, mathematics, accounting, law, and history is an exercise in creating emotional monsters. Those who expected to be treated like rarified philosophers in white robes but behave like liars and brigands.




In this particular video the case is exacerbated by the subliminal elements of ageism. Older vs younger. While not overtly addressed in any of the responses in this thread, it is there informing and skewing every opinion. Things like "in my day" and "kids these days" are sprinkled through out most of the posts.




The real problem with corporal punishment among the working classes is that the disciplinarians tend to go harder on people that they see potential in. Subconsciously aware that even with all their gifts that person will never be a member of the ruling class, and the teacher comes down harder on them by way of venting their frustration at the fact that they cannot offer the child a brighter future.



Did you know that in upperclass primary schools, in the US, the children are encouraged to work together to solve problems, and can use any resource in the room, including "going into the teachers desk." Finding the answer in a book is the opposite of cheating.


So, if we _must_ play the blame game about this video I blame the planners of our respective economies in both the US and Egypt. Beating the lower classes into accepting menial positions is going to continue in a system where the assembly line has no use for hand crafted art.

How long will this go on?

David Grouchy
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posted on May, 28 2011 @ 08:57 AM
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Maybe the word itself is being misunderstood. Beating: an act of striking with repeated blows so as to injure or damage; also : the injury or damage thus inflicted.

Who in their right mind would want to injure their children if you are following that definition of the word? My guess would be that those who condone "beatings" do not have children.



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 09:13 AM
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GRAPHIC CONTENT:
ummm.... no not really


pulling the hair and hitting them on the neck was a little excessive but the video is far from being a big deal.

I don't get the outrage though, teachers shouldn't be allowed to hit children I agree with that, that's a right reversed for the parents but then you'll disagree with that too right?

Because you are all against discipline, you want to raise idiots who grow up watching reality tv shows and can't point at europe on a map and can't focus so you give them ritalin in this over medicated country.

distractions are okay, Ritalin is fine but no discipline!!!!

This way of thinking is why there are sheeple voting war criminals into office!

WAKE UP



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 09:15 AM
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THIS THREAD IS PYS-OP TRICK. DONT BUY IT. Please listen to me. In order to build support for all out war in middle east there will be more threads designed to create hatred towered Muslims/Arabs.

What could be worse than beating children? Beating women? Oh yea, that's why there's another front page thread about beating women.

Open your heart. Use intuition. Don't pay attention to the a-hole trolls who will attack this truth



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
Seems to me that people and social systems naturally fall into one of three control loci;

Biological imperative - law of the jungle - need to beat them to control them. (criminals)

Socialised - where just approval/disaproval keeps everyone in line. (traditional values)

Intellectual - where ethical values are the measure of everything. (progressive PC heaven)


Trying to mix them all into one environment creates all sorts of problems - and is probably why the caste system originated.


Ah, this is so true.

I want to make examples for each one:


Types Of Control:


Biological Imperative:
Are you going to listen to me!? If not, I'll beat the crap out of you!


Socialized:
Are you going to listen to me!? If not, I'll be very disappointed in you!


Intellectual:
Are you going to listen to me!? If not, you don't deserve the same privileges as everyone well


I would also say that there is another type of control, which is "Positive Reinforcement".

Positive Reinforcement:

Are you going to listen to me? Is so, I'll give you extra dessert.


With Positive Reinforcement, instead of saying "No! Don't Do That!" , you would instead say "Do This Instead and you'll be rewarded!"



posted on May, 28 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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Dude deserves a beating. This in no way will help children learn. Same way torture doesn't work.



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