Pope's ``pedophilia advisor`` gets arrested... for pedophilia

reply to post by Evanzsayz


They have made the pope into a Jesus substitute,and he empowers preists to carry on in his name...granting absolution and forgiveness thru confession,a power binding game...its been a farce since the first day....and a political/money game since them also....and lets not get started on what they did in the Middle Ages...

Originally posted by Vitchilo
BREAKING NEWS EVERYONE... there's pedophiles at the Vatican!

Who would have known?

EDIT : It seems it's not the pedophilia advisor that was arrested for pedophilia, but one of the priests in the diocese of one of the advisors of the pope... the article wasn't very clear.

You look so happy. It's good to know that pedophilia could make someone so happy. You enjoy this like someone had gave you case with a million dollars.

reply to post by Vicky32

a hundred years ago, you wouldn't have been allowed to divorce. if you were lucky enough to get away from the guy, well, you would have more than likely raised you kids in extreme proverty, because well, there were very few opportunities for women to work. and well, there was a time when you wouldn't have had much of a choice to be marry and it was quite possible that the one you were married to wasn't your choice, and very well could have been a payment for the debt your fathered owed to your future husband. well, back in ruth's time, her husband's death meant that she was to be transferred to the heir of her husband's estate.....
only there was no one close by to take her off her mother in law's hands....so well, they had to go searching. the one that finally agreed to take her, well, naomi instructed her to sneak into the guys room after he was done eating and drinking and lay at his feet.....
ummm.....ya, sound advice that we'd give happily give our daughters.
you are a modern christian.....the vatican isn't, there's a few offshoots that aren't. and well, the vatican is probably the most traditional place on the face of the earth!!!
in truth, the koran is much kinder to women than the bible is, although well, the heart of the islamic men and their "traditions" are much harsher to women than the men in the western world....
this isn't because of anything that is written in the bible, but rather something that was happening within the hearts of the men....
by the one, originally, the convent was for the most part the only way that a women could evade marriage and thus, be celibate.....and well, more then likely she was just trading in the one husband society said she should have for a bunch of priest that, oh ya, wouldn't expect much out of her spiritually, but still, probably expected the traditional "women's work" to be done by them for the priests....

Originally posted by Vicky32

Originally posted by Shamatt

Hi V.

Just popped in to say that I think your homophobic biggoted rant is disgracefull and that I think you should be ashamed of yourself. Homosexuality is not a life style choice. Some people are sexually attracted to members of their own sex, and not in the slightest bit attracted to members of the opposite sex. This may be genetic, as per many scientific studdies. You have obviously heard of some of them or you would not be denying their validity.

I am not ashamed, because it's not genetic, and yes of course, I know about all those studies, including all the flaws in them. I posted links to articles about all those flaws and faults, and got abused by a couple of hysterics, a man and a woman who clearly has serious issues.
Homosexuality is a lifestyle choice, and in the 21st century, a very cushy one indeed!
I deny the validity of all of those studies, not just some of them, and I have read probably far more widely about it all than you have, for reasons I won't go into. I don't like being abused.

Were you aware that they could alter a childs genetics in the womb, through different methods used by the sciences of mind control,and they purposely did so? If they could do that with science, for whatever reason, its possible that it could happen on its own.

You say you have been abused by people who clearly had issues, but yet you are the person who not once,but 3 times posted how much she disliked ALL AMERICANS.

Vicky..no one likes being abused , not for being american, not for being gay, and not for thinking that the catholic church has covered up far too much .

Adults dont protect they're children anymore its pretty sad and pathetic how christian parents decide to ignore all these criminals and just keep going to mass every sunday, makes me throw up

Originally posted by Vicky32

Originally posted by Shamatt

Hi V.

Just popped in to say that I think your homophobic biggoted rant is disgracefull and that I think you should be ashamed of yourself. Homosexuality is not a life style choice. Some people are sexually attracted to members of their own sex, and not in the slightest bit attracted to members of the opposite sex. This may be genetic, as per many scientific studdies. You have obviously heard of some of them or you would not be denying their validity.

I am not ashamed, because it's not genetic, and yes of course, I know about all those studies, including all the flaws in them. I posted links to articles about all those flaws and faults, and got abused by a couple of hysterics, a man and a woman who clearly has serious issues.
Homosexuality is a lifestyle choice, and in the 21st century, a very cushy one indeed!
I deny the validity of all of those studies, not just some of them, and I have read probably far more widely about it all than you have, for reasons I won't go into. I don't like being abused.

Come on now! How can be gay in a homophobic society be cushy? You are not making sence.
Why would anyone choose to be gay in a world like ours? Did those homosexuals who were imprissoned in the early part of last century choose to be gay? And if so why did they not choose to stop being gay in order to avoid a conviction?

Of course you have read more about this than I have - you are brilliant and I am rubish. So are all those scientists with their fancy PHD's and doctorates, don't know which end of the test tube is which some of them, with their silly flawed experiments and theories.

No one likes being abused. I will agree with you on that, and I would hate to think of you or anyone else being abused, it is a terrible thing. I remember you saying you left an abusive marriage. Good for you! Too many women get trapped. Did you know I was abused by a family member when I was 12? Of course you didn't. Can't see past your own pain.

When you learn to forgive and to see into the hearts of people, you will see a new vista of humanity which will brighten up your world. Let go of the past, learn to love all of humanity, inccluding the abusers, the preists, the homosexuals, the dyslexics, and the argumentative poms you meet on the internet! LOL But most of all - love yourself. You deserve it.

Your little bit of world would be so much better without your bigotted ideas. Swap the hate for love. Swap the intollerance for acceptance. The pain that remains in your heart still will drain away, and you will be a happier person. I garuntee it.

Originally posted by stevooo
Lets look at this the other way. What if pedophilia in the catholic church is overblown. now any powerful catholic person can be taken down hard with a whisper. People cant wait to destroy these people which have dedicated their lives to their gods. Innocent until proven guilty, unless your a catholic priest or a banker.

Thats absurd to me. There are a thousands of cases of abuse that never make it to the public eye..because there is so much shame associated with it,that victims rarely speak out, and if they do,its privately to some therapist,or close freind.

People do not want to destroy innocent people who have dedicated their lives to God, they want to see this horrendous abuse of power, manipulating young boys and children to stop.

I sincerely feel sorry for any catholic clergy ,who is not guilty of these crime, and has to pay the price of mistrust because of the actions of others.

What I find totally ridiculous is that a Bishop, somewhere in the US excommunicated a very hard working dedicated nun, who was working at a catholic hospital, because she dared save the life of a mother over her unborn baby.This woman was a mother already , and the chances of her living ,and her child living were impossible. The nun chose to save the life of the mother.

Can you tell me why a Bishop would go to such extreme measures to show how the church protects the life of an unborn child, but yet they do little to protect the innocence of the living young boys within their church,who decide to become alter boys? No excommunication for these crimes..just a lil holiday in some rehab perhaps, and then off to another parish.

pedophiles,like the gay communtiy in general,closes ranks and looks out for each other...thats why the big wheels in the church looks after boy fondling priests and bishops

If you think this only happens to that religion in that area, you are mistaken.

Every single major religion does this, more so than others, but they ALL do it.

Abolish religion to free humanity from these shackles that bind us to idiotic ideals, just because it is old does not mean we should believe it.

Originally posted by SL55T0T0
Adults dont protect they're children anymore its pretty sad and pathetic how christian parents decide to ignore all these criminals and just keep going to mass every sunday, makes me throw up

Catholics aren't Christians. They worship the saints, Mary, the pope, relics, etc. Out of all the Catholics I've had discussions with, not one of them centered their faith and belief on Jesus Christ. Instead, they focused on the church, their priest, what the vatican has to say about certain issues and so forth.

reply to post by holyTerror


Anyone who prays to Mary(the Blessed Virgin) instead of Jesus is a worshiper of false idols...

Originally posted by 547000
The scriptures say adultery begins when you have dirty thoughts about women who you're not married to. I must admit giving it all up was hard at first, but it became easier with time. I'm saving sex for marriage.

The scriptures say a hell of a lot of crap, I wouldn't think too much about it.
They tell you to kill people who don't believe in god... would you do that?


Denying yourself the most natural of things.... is....well.... Unnatural.... you get the urges and feelings you do for a reason, because they're natural and good.

Save sex for marriage.... but get a few practice runs in

Originally posted by Vicky32
You claim he has problems? No, he is not the one with the problems...

No... I said if/when his problems do manifest, they will manifest somewhere...

I have been single for 26 years, and I am celibate. I don't masturbate or look at pornography (I have zero interest in it, as is the case with 99% of normal women).

No it's not.... maybe in the Victorian times.... I'm sure many, if not most women masturbate.
Just because you don't.... don't kid yourself that you're the norm

Do you think I have problems?
V

Yes... and probably cobwebs too...

Originally posted by BLKMJK
That just does not make sense! They cannot marry so they molest children? Why would they not just have sex with women? I have allot of friends that are not married and NONE have been accused of being a pedo. Normal people are not attracted to children under ANY circumstances. It is the most evil thing imaginable. They stole those poor children's lives. And all for what? Not being able to marry?

Your friends are not married, but they are probably not completely celibate. These men couldn't possible have sex with women. They are priests, the only women they really have access too are members of their church. If they tried anything with any of them, the women would tell. However, children are much weaker, more naive, and easier to manipulate. You can use shame guilt, and your authority to convince a child that they are the ones in the wrong.

It's sick, it's wrong, it's downright atrocious. However, I do think that allowing priests to marry would go a long way to help remedy the problem.

Maybe society is missing a great opportunity to both use unused resources and to reduce crime if all pedos, abusers and murderers knew they would be penalized to endure 10 times as bad as they inflicted, not just sit somplace responsibility and rent free. Who would do it? The sados. Society could keep the sados off the streets by hiring them to do the dirty work. One task should be hiring them to kill the pedos by the slowest most painful death starting with burning out their anus.

im going to refer way back and mention that i dont believe this is because of celebicy (excuse my spelling please). just think about it for a second. why are they repeatedly being found to be pedophiles, well because they are unable to mature properly as they get older so their brains are still attracted to the little ones. think about it, a person who allows themselves to be brainwashed in such a way must have the mental capacity of a young one as they do not question what they are taught, they accept it as truth and move on. this is similar to a childs level of intelligence as if you have children of your own, or many much younger siblings as i do then you will realize that a child will accept any explanation no matter what the true relavence. im not justifying what these pedophiles do by any means, im just offering a possible explanation as to y we find so many of them in the catholic church.

reply to post by BLKMJK


It is part of the moslem creed that if they have sex w a boy under puberty it isnt considered homosexualism or pedophila...talk about wiritng your own rules...

reply to post by renegadeloser


Perhaps, you make a pretty good case and I suppose no pedo is the same and who knows what is the actual reason. Some of these people join in an effort to extinguish their disgusting impulses while others use the church as a hideout with access to children. I just find it hard to believe that celibacy would be a mitigating factor but I just don't know.

All of the anti-religious banter is such a waste of time. Even without religion these disgusting people would still exists.

Originally posted by Homedawg
reply to post by BLKMJK

 

It is part of the moslem creed that if they have sex w a boy under puberty it isnt considered homosexualism or pedophila...talk about wiritng your own rules...

Are you serious? I did not know that. That is just sickening beyond words. This is a creed?

No excuses for this horrible behavior. But their are reasons. Scientific studies show that pedophelia is triggered by behaviors formed in childhood. Generally the core beliefs of the child are distorted by caregivers. These distorted thoughts are reinforced over the years and become normal behavior for the pedophile. Often times the pedophiles were molested themselves as children and develope a sense of entitlement, "they did it to me, so it's ok to do it to others. Studies indicate that sexual deviant behavior is a mental disorder that is deep rooted in the psyche formed in childhood. It is much more involved than this, but my conclusion is pedophilia does not form from being in the environment of the Catholic Priesthood. These men are already sexually distorted before they ever enter the priesthood. They target children because of the vulnerability, easy access, opportunity, and the position of power they wield over their victims. Having sex with an appropriate woman would be too risky for exposure and most of these sexual deviant men have issues with intimacy and being in touch with ones emotions. They couldn't have a healthy marriage or sex life cause they are very confused and ignorant about healthy relationships. These men need to be put away, but killing them is not the answer. They are not the cause of pedophilia they are the result of bad cargiving. Their behaviors should be studied so we as a community can be come more aware of the red flags. Their brains should be tapped into to see how they operate. Then we can intervene more quickly and possibly save a child from abuse. We should educate ourselves about the root of pedophilia and consentrate on correcting that. Which in my humble opinion should be educating parents and caregivers about the dangers of the inappropriate rearing of a child, hense turning a child into a potential pedophile. Or exposing a child to dangerous environments.
Using violence or fear tactics ie... death penalty, life imprisonment, hanging..... to solve the problem will never work. Has the war on drugs stopped drug abuse. The only thing that really helps the drug problem is education and rehabilitation. Killing all the drug addicts will not stop addiction, and killing all pedophiles will not cure pedophilia. Violent, controlling mothers is a major contributing factor to the developement of pedophilia. So does it make sense to use violence to control it. Fight fire with fire and everyone gets burned.
Sexual deviancy is a part of all races, cultures, religions, whether your rich or poor, old or young. I too was raised Catholic, however religion is not part of my life anymore. I was an alterboy, and was active in many church functions. I never experienced any sexual advances or witnessed any by any member of the clergy, priest or nun. There is a cure for this mental disorder, but for most men it is unattainable because of the deep rooted distorted core beliefs. Men can stop this abuse just as a drug addict can stop using for the rest of his/her life, however they must maintain a hypervigilance to their sexual desires and have healthy intimate relationships with a community of people. NUFF SAID!