Pope's ``pedophilia advisor`` gets arrested... for pedophilia, page 1
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Topic started on 27-5-2011 @ 02:04 AM by Vitchilo
BREAKING NEWS EVERYONE... there's pedophiles at the Vatican! Who would have known?

EDIT : It seems it's not the pedophilia advisor that was arrested for pedophilia, but one of the priests in the diocese of one of the advisors of the pope... the article wasn't very clear.

Priest Sex-Abuse Case Hits Church of Pope's Adviser
The latest sex-abuse case to rock the Catholic Church is unfolding in the archdiocese of an influential Italian Cardinal who has been working with Pope Benedict XVI on reforms to respond to prior scandals of pedophile priests.

Father Riccardo Seppia, a 51-year-old parish priest in the village of Sastri Ponente, near Genoa, was arrested last Friday, May 13, on pedophilia and drug charges.


End or at least reduce pedophilia in priesthood... LET THEM GET MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah I know it's crazy to ask an organization based on a fantasy to do something sane in the real world...

EDIT: OK it seems I'm very wrong about letting priest marry would reduce the number of pedophilia acts in priesthood... so what do you suggest to reduce pedophilia in religion? Difficulty : You can't abolish religion.

Edit 2 :
"I do not want 16-year-old boys but younger. Fourteen-year-olds are O.K. Look for needy boys who have family issues," he allegedly said. Genoa Archbishop Angelo Bagnasco, who is the head of the Italian Bishops Conference

Truly a sick individual. Shooting him in the head would be too kind.

And the pope is *really* kind to him :
Bagnasco said that when he met the Pope this weekend, he "asked for a particular blessing for my archdiocese" in light of the alleged crimes, adding that "like every father toward a son [feels] great pain in seeing a priest who is not faithful to his vocation."

The pope is a sicko. Any decent human being in front of such trash would go apes***...

But eh, I'm already expecting the church response to this whole affair... ``How could he have been the pedophilia advisor if he wasn't an expert in pedophilia?`` You know they are thinking about saying this.

More on the wonderful business of the church.
WikiLeaks: Vatican Pressured Ireland On Sex Abuse Scandal
Newly released U.S. diplomatic cables indicate that the Vatican felt "offended" that Ireland failed to respect Holy See "sovereignty" by asking high-ranking churchmen to answer questions from an Irish commission probing decades of sex abuse of minors by clergy.

Sickos.

Pope’s child porn 'normal' claim sparks outrage among victims
Victims of clerical sex abuse have reacted furiously to Pope Benedict's claim yesterday that paedophilia wasn't considered an “absolute evil” as recently as the 1970s.

In his traditional Christmas address yesterday to cardinals and officials working in Rome, Pope Benedict XVI also claimed that child pornography was increasingly considered “normal” by society.
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reply posted on 27-5-2011 @ 02:08 AM by kalamatas
reply to post by Vitchilo


It has nothing to do with them not being able to marry, Catholic priesthood is a club for pedophiles where they can hide under the guise of holiness. Sick, evil pieces of excrement.


reply posted on 27-5-2011 @ 02:27 AM by JohnySeagull
reply to post by Vitchilo


have to agree with the first response. don't think this is about celibacy. why aren't they all having affairs with women? some have. the pedophilia issue is different.

people need to examine what the church is. examine its history. this pedophilia is not a new issue. its been in the church for hundreds of years.

the churches over the last few decades set up in underdevloped countries with uneducated people. vunerable people. people who will do anything for you if they can see a way out of the misery they are living in.

the stand out moment for me recently was watching the current pope have the previous popes blood paraded around on stage for the world to watch on may 1st. there is something very wrong with this and i am sure we will see in the next couple of years exactly what.

part of the ritaul of the catholic church is to regularly drink the blood of christ? what the hell are people thinking.



reply posted on 27-5-2011 @ 02:35 AM by TheWalkingFox
Originally posted by Vitchilo
BREAKING NEWS EVERYONE... there's pedophiles at the Vatican! Who would have known?

Priest Sex-Abuse Case Hits Church of Pope's Adviser
The latest sex-abuse case to rock the Catholic Church is unfolding in the archdiocese of an influential Italian Cardinal who has been working with Pope Benedict XVI on reforms to respond to prior scandals of pedophile priests.

Father Riccardo Seppia, a 51-year-old parish priest in the village of Sastri Ponente, near Genoa, was arrested last Friday, May 13, on pedophilia and drug charges.


End or at least reduce pedophilia in priesthood... LET THEM GET MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah I know it's crazy to ask an organization based on a fantasy to do something sane in the real world...


Hi there. I'm an unmarried man. I have never had sex with a child. I have no desire to do so, and I think it's safe to say that, even though I am not planning to marry in the forseeable future, pedophilia will never be a feature in my life.

Marriage has nothing to do with these sick thugs. They do this because they can. Like any variety of rape, it's about the power trip more than the physical gratification. These men feel they are some of the most powerful people on the planet, and that they can get what they want from people too scared and vulnerable to say no - and then they're confident that their organization will cover them up while the rest of the world pretends that being "religious" makes them untouchable.


reply posted on 27-5-2011 @ 03:35 AM by ChaoticOrder
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I don't have a grasp on a catholic priest pedophile's mind but don't you think it would be more normal to hear of priests getting caught with prostitutes or being at strip clubs off duty?
No, coz then they can get seen and recognized. It's all about fondling little kiddies in a creepy dark room where no will see.
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reply posted on 27-5-2011 @ 04:10 AM by Freeborn
Many, of not all, Buddhist and Hindu Monks are celibate yet we hear very few stories of Buddhist of Hindu paedophilia.....therefore I thinks it's reasonable to assume that even though celibacy may not help the situation, and in my humble opinion is highly 'unsual', it can not be seen as the primary cause of the apparent high number of cases of paedophilia involving The Roman Carholic priesthood.

So what is it that provokes or contributes to the horrifically high instances of inexcusable abuse?

I was nominally raised a Roman Catholic and was, for a short period, an altar boy, (the mind boggles - people piss themselves laughing when I tell them nowadays!), and as such had quite a lot of contact and interaction with Catholic clergymen and can honestly say I never once saw, felt or heard of even the slightest occurence or even indication of paedophile activity or any sort whatsoever.
Even to this day no-one I know has ever had any contact with anyone who has had to suffer any such abuse.

So it can not be something inherent within The Roman Catholic Church as such.
As guilty as they may be of many other crimes, including covering up and even ignoring paedophilic practices, they are not guilty of dogmatising and ritualising paedophilia.
Simply put; the vast majority of Catholic priests are NOT paedophiles, contrary to what some would have you believe.

A little known fact is that there here in the UK there are more instances of sexual abuse of children involving clergy from The Church Of England and other Protestant denominations than there are of those involving Catholic priests.
It is also true to say that the vast majority of paedophiles are not religious people of any particular persuasion at all.

That suggests to me that it is more of a cultural and social problem rather than something specific to any individual religion or even religion in general.


reply posted on 27-5-2011 @ 04:29 AM by TheWalkingFox
Originally posted by Freeborn
Many, of not all, Buddhist and Hindu Monks are celibate yet we hear very few stories of Buddhist of Hindu paedophilia.....therefore I thinks it's reasonable to assume that even though celibacy may not help the situation, and in my humble opinion is highly 'unsual', it can not be seen as the primary cause of the apparent high number of cases of paedophilia involving The Roman Carholic priesthood.


Well, we don't hear a lot about Buddhist or Hindu monks, period, since those faiths really aren't given any serious time by American or European press - they don't worship the Whitest Jew Ever, and they aren't scary people with bombs, so not much attention is paid to them. Really the only Buddhism or Hinduism that gets covered in western media is the watery self-help / New-age crap you find in the states.

"Duh i like, believe in a higher power, and like stuff, but church is uh like boring and stuff, so I'm like a Buddhist and junk I guess."

However, there's a little bit worth mention. Slightly tangental, but since I'm a liberal, a lot of people make some assumptions about my views, including that I give a flying damn about the Dalai Lama. Hell no. Screw that old turd, China's the best thing to happen to Tibet in four hundred years. My logic? The Lamas of Tibetan Buddhism were some of the most brutal rulers you've ever heard of. In addition to the good ol' medieval traditions of maiming and torturing the peasants, these dudes would engage in what amounted to rape roundups - they would go into the lands they own and pick out the women, men, and children they wanted as "acolytes" - whose first duty was to satisfy the sexual desires of the monks.

Zen buddhists in Japan also had a catamite tradition. And I can't imagine that Hinduism has been any different in its seven thousand years of history.

Just 'cause you don't hear much about it doesn't mean it's not there. it's not exactly something that gets advertised.

That suggests to me that it is more of a cultural and social problem rather than something specific to any individual religion or even religion in general.


Oh, absolutely. Though personally I would ascribe it to religion in general, and religions with priesthoods of any sort in specific. Religion is, at its most basic, a system where people believe that Something Far Far Away is listening to them. if you add in a priesthood, they become the conduit between you and Something Far Far Away. Since they talk to Something Far Far Away on your behalf, you want them to say nice things. And since most religions have terrible, terrible punishments in store for anyone who gets on the bad side of Something Far Far Away, there's that much more incentive to be sure your priest is very happy with you.

As I said though, it's a power trip thing


reply posted on 27-5-2011 @ 04:37 AM by Freeborn
reply to post by Uncle Gravity


The only I can find at present give details for the USA and not the UK, i'll continue looking later when I have more time.

judecollinsjournalist.blogspot.com...
www.youtube.com...
www.democraticunderground.com...
www.freerepublic.com...

It is reasonable to think it's probably true considering there are more Protestants in the UK than Catholics.
It would be intersting to see percentage figures etc, I suspect they would be very similar and thus supporting the theory that it's more of a cultural and social issue.

I also suspect that the sectarian and bigotted amongst us would disagree no matter what the facts and merely seek to score 'points' against and fuel their own hatred of the other side instead of concentrating on trying to eradicate what is possibly the most cruel and inhumane crime known.


reply posted on 27-5-2011 @ 04:42 AM by Uncle Gravity
reply to post by Freeborn




I also suspect that the sectarian and bigotted amongst us would disagree no matter what the facts and merely seek to score 'points' against and fuel their own hatred of the other side instead of concentrating on trying to eradicate what is possibly the most cruel and inhumane crime known.


Your probably right but we would have to see the UK facts first!
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