posted on May, 27 2011 @ 04:02 AM
reply to post by MidnightSunshine
Not really. It's a tough call without being there. If you were napping, not paying attention or otherwise not on the ball and you hear your wife and
kids screaming not to shoot then your gut reaction is to grab a firearm and get ready to defend you and yours. IF the damn cops had identified
themselves thoroughly before breaching or had even given the suspect the opportunity to surrender and everything went forward as is, then maybe I
Fact of the matter is that every hick-town (not saying this is the case here) now feels the need to have entry teams equipped better than many of us
were kicking in doors over in the sand. High-risk entries are understandable on large and hostile operations where there are multiple armed suspects.
High-risk entries are acceptable if your target has already presented a threat. YOU DO NOT breach the front door of a veteran who likely has firearms
in the house without properly pursuing other alternatives.
The fact these pigs landed 60 rounds on-target is evidence enough that they are poorly trained and operationally ineffective. Hell, I would have
reprimanded the hell out of ANY man in Iraq of Afghanistan for unloading 30 rounds on a guy point-blank. That's a waste of ammo and it IS OVERKILL.
These guys got scared and let their primal survival instincts override the training (if there was any) they had received. Look at the idiot point-man
with the shield lying on his ass outside of the doorway.
Once that door was knocked off its hinges it should have been NO MORE than 3 seconds before a flashbang and at least 3 men were in the room fully. You
breach THROUGH suspects, you don't cower and fall back on yourselves if you see one. Point being, this was a poorly executed entry with questionable
EDIT OT ADD:
After cranking the volume all the way up I am inclined to take back some of my statements. It appears the police tossed a flashbang in through a side
or rear window. You hear the trademark pop followed by the radio "bang, bang, bang." The siren was sounded to alert the suspect that police were
on-scene and it sounds like voices from the sides and rear of the residence keep yelling in "Police search warrant." While this does negate some of
what I have said here, it does not negate the fact that this was a piss-poor entry. The tactics alone almost guarantee a crappy resolution. If these
guys had breached the front door in coordination with the flashbang then maybe they could have subdued the man before he had a chance to arm himself
properly. I'm still curious why the gun was on safe. Any marine saying "I got something for you" after two tours in Iraq would have had the weapon hot
and ready to deal death. Makes me wonder if he didn't just turn the corner to investigate with the rifle in-hand and got popped because of it.
edit on 27-5-2011 by ateuprto because: (no reason given)