Topic started on 26-5-2011 @ 11:54 AM by Masterjaden
Prior to the fourteenth amendment, being born in the US did NOT make you a citizen, so the argument that you only need to be born in the US to be a
natural born citizen is ridiculous. You must be born to two citizen parents. The parents need not be natural born citizens, but they must be citizens.
After the fourteenth amendment, it has been interpreted that you are a citizen just by being born here. That does not mean that you are a NATURAL BORN
CITIZEN, that means that you are a citizen.
The question you have to ask is why the distinction? Why distinguish between being a citizen and being a natural born citizen?
The answer to that is simple, to prevent the usurpation of our government by someone who is loyal to a foreign state. The purpose was to eradicate any
possiblity of duel allegiance or foreign allegiance by the holder of the highest office and the commander in chief.
I know there are people who are going to spout the nonsensical attacks of get over it, you have a black persident.
This is a ridiculous attempt at an ad hominem attack of trying to make me seem racist, when I could care less that Obama is half black.
I care that he is eroding the last shred of liberty in arguably the greatest nation (supposed to be based on liberty and principles of freedom) that
we have left.
Then people will inevitibly call me a Bush lover, and why I didn't rail against the practices of Bush. I did and do think that Bush did more to erode
our liberties than any president OTHER than Obama is trying to do.
We are NOT a democracy nor were we EVER supposed to be.
We are based on the greatest form og government ever conceived, a democratic REPUBLIC. We aren't one currently, nor have we been since the NEW DEAL.
We are a socialist republic. ran by corruption because we started giving away control of our nation when we allowed the enactment of the 16th
amendment and the federal reserve.
Some of our greatest thinking founding fathers knew that doing so would spell the doom of our democratic republic By the people Of the people and For
the people and would wrest away control by promoting total and utter corruption of the state.
The downfall of the US actually started before that. It started after the civil war. It started with ensuring that the Federal government could force
the states to do whatever they wanted without recourse for the states.
It was the ignoring of the 10th amendment in subsequent action and overreaching of the Federal gov. in manipulation of the interstate commerce clause
that sent us down this road.
Now the inevitable, see I knew you were racist, you supported the south leaving the union and therefore you support slavery.
Nope, sorry, I do support the right of states to sucede from the union, that doesn't mean that I support slavery or that I am racist.
I support individual liberty and property rights and personal responsibility. It is not the governement's right or responsibility to take care of us,
it is our own.
The government is only there to ensure that our rights to personal property are protected and our individual liberties are not infringed. They are
there to enforce the constitution and pass legislation within the bounds of the constitution.
When they fail in that, as they have with ensuring that the POTUS is constitutionally eligible to BE POTUS, then it is the citizens right and
responsibility to stand up and ensure that they START to follow the constitution.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots from time to time.
We are perilously close to a time that this will be necessary, if we have not long surpassed it.
I pray that we as a nation will not have to shed the blood of patriots; hoiwever, it is becoming rampantly apparent that we may have no choice, but to
become as slaves ourselves or to stand up against the tyranny created by the failures of our past citizenry and the failures of our current elected
representatives who are TRULY FAILING to represent We the People!!!!