Study suggests 'born-again' believers have smaller brains, page 11

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by AwakeinNM

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No, you really can't. Of course, considering that most people on this website seem don't seem to actually know how a scientific publication works, I'm not surprised by this.

And a good poll, with an actually well done sample, will not get the results you necessarily want...unless those results are the real ones.

You mean like double-blind studies that new pharmaceuticals endure for FDA approval, only to get discontinued after said pharmaceutical kills a whole bunch of people once it's on the market??

And polls almost never have samples that are representative of the population as a whole. You ever see the stats on these political polls they trot out during elections? They have samples of like 800 people that they polled by phone. Seriously, dude.

reply to post by mkkkay

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Well maybe you should read instead of just copy and paste. The article itself makes no such claim about the size of the brain, only about the size of the hippocampus, which is only a small part of the brain.

This is exactly what I am talking about. If you can't be bothered to read the articles, please don't post them. You should be ashamed of yourself.

The motto of this site is "Deny Ignorance" not "copy paste"

reply to post by mkkkay

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In addition, I would like to point out that this entire thread is off topic... there is no conspiracy content, which is a requirement for starting a thread on this board. Maybe you'd like to have a moderator delete it, or move it to a more appropriate forum.

Please stop trolling.

Originally posted by DrEugeneFixer
reply to post by mkkkay

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Well maybe you should read instead of just copy and paste. The article itself makes no such claim about the size of the brain, only about the size of the hippocampus, which is only a small part of the brain.

This is exactly what I am talking about. If you can't be bothered to read the articles, please don't post them. You should be ashamed of yourself.

The motto of this site is "Deny Ignorance" not "copy paste"

Relax dude! i did read the article, i am not going to change the title just to suit your fancy.
if it makes you feel better, i did not believe the article, i my self think it's a kind of propoganda.
Maybe you should read my words also, and not just the article i posted.
thats the second time i have to send you back to the op. hope this is the last.

P.S you should stay away from threads you don't agree with, if it gets you frustrated and mad.

So this is not a conspiracy. look dude again having to send you to shool is getting old

"Conspiracy theory" was originally a neutral descriptor for any claim of civil, criminal, or political conspiracy. However, it has become largely pejorative and used almost exclusively to refer to any fringe theory which explains a historical or current event as the result of a secret plot by conspirators of almost superhuman power and cunning.

Conspiracy theories are viewed with skepticism by many because they are rarely supported by any conclusive evidence and contrast with institutional analysis. The former speculates on the motives and actions of secretive coalitions of individuals while the latter studies people's collective behavior in publicly known institutions, as recorded in scholarly material and mainstream media reports, to explain historical or current events.[1] Scholars argue that conspiracy theory goes beyond the boundaries of rational criticism when it becomes nonfalsifiable. Such a theory is a closed system of ideas which explains away contradictory evidence by claiming that the conspirators themselves planted it.[1] The term “conspiracy theory” is therefore often used dismissively in an attempt to characterize a belief as outlandishly false and held by a person judged to be a crank or a group confined to the lunatic fringe.[2] Such characterization is often the subject of dispute due to its possible unfairness and inaccuracy.

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I hope this does it for you my new friend

reply to post by Unity_99

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Really, I did not get what you what you were you were trying to say. Just static. Try again.

reply to post by madnessinmysoul

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Here are a few:

1) I believe that the article stated that there were 268 people that were tracked. Anyone with a basic knowledge of statistics should realize that a study that includes that small of a pool offers almost no conclusions and can only possibly point to a need for further study.

2) There seems to have been very little nuance in the study when it came to division of religious groups (and for that matter, agnostics and atheists). For example, did they determine if any of the atheists that were tested (falling into the religiously unaffiliated and having a smaller hypocampus than mainline Protestants) practiced meditation, imbibed in drug use (either currently or in the past) or if the Catholics involved participated in any meditation like practices, such as repetition of the rosary, contemplation of the passion or other activities?

3) There was no indication that the study utilized participants form diverse locales. Duke University is in North Carolina where until recently (and the test subjects were in their late 50's) Catholics and atheists were persona non grata. Stress is one of the greatest causes of hypocampal atrophy.

Eric

reply to post by mkkkay

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Actually, I agree that this thread doesn't belong in CiR, having no conspiracy angle at all.

It's an interesting study and a worthy thread, but probably belongs in Faith and Spirituality (or whatever they changed it to when getting rid of BTS).

Eric

reply to post by NOTurTypical

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You realize that the study included religiously unaffiliated, right?

That seems to encompass atheists and agnostics in the teeny hypocampus group.

Eric

Originally posted by Evanzsayz
reply to post by mkkkay

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I dont understand how would you become stressed because you are saved wouldnt that do the complete opposite if your a believer?

No, I don't think so at all. It seems to me that if you came into a full knowledge of the certainty of the justice of the Lord you would be a LOT more stressed out and would be doing whatever you could to help those that weren't saved get saved.

Born Again Christians believe that what is coming in the end times is not fun stuff for those that aren't whisked away or are protected. I could easily see them spending a tremendous amount of time praying for those that aren't saved, raising money for the printing of Bibles, evangelizing and so on.

I don't know any Born Again who believes that God is Love and is not also Just. And Just can be scary.


Eric

Originally posted by EricD
reply to post by NOTurTypical

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You realize that the study included religiously unaffiliated, right?

That seems to encompass atheists and agnostics in the teeny hypocampus group.

Eric

Nope, just born-again believers are stupid retards.

Madness agrees so it's gots to be true.

Plus it's a study, and Madness says it's peer-reviewed which is just another way to say "factual".

I think that this is how they discovered this interesting piece of the puzzle:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

While attempting to localize it on extremist's in the middle east they discovered it worked on all fanatical closed minded people...

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