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The measure would also forbid Louisiana Medicaid funds from being used for abortions even in cases of rape or incest, a move that could endanger the state's eligibility for Medicaid funding from Washington, AP reported.
As my answer to this, I want to quote your sig.
signature: Truth is Treason in an Empire of Lies...RP
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
As my answer to this, I want to quote your sig.
signature: Truth is Treason in an Empire of Lies...RP
The truth that abortion is the killing of an unborn child. It is murder of a defenseless child made all the more horrid by being carried out by the child's mother. That is the truth. Like it or not Abortion is murder. I have to agree that our tax money should not be used to MURDER INNOCENT CHILDREN.
Who do you think that "needs" these abortions the most? We are going to end up a welfare country if they were all banned.
So, why have laws against murder at all? Why have laws against theft? The government tells us that we must wear seat belts in our cars, but we should not stop child murder?
Originally posted by mudbeed
I don't think it is our job to make these choices for others.
How about "pro-personal responsibility"? If you do something stupid, you pay the consequences. Have unprotected sex, hey guess what? You might get pregnant. Take responsibility for your own actions. Don't ask others to take responsibility for your bad choices.
What I don't get is most people who are anti abortion are also anti-welfare.
That sounds like the argument of a eugenicist.
Who do you think that "needs" these abortions the most? We are going to end up a welfare country if they were all banned.
Ok, let me understand this. You are anti-child murder, but don't think murdering children should be illegal? Can you see the dichotomy here?
And yes, technically, the morning after pill is abortion.
I am a father. I am anti-abortion, but I am pro choice when it comes to laws.
Or maybe, just maybe, people might stop and think before having sex? Don't say humans cannot control themselves, they can. Animals cannot control themselves, but humans can stop, think, and realize that actions have consequences.
Soon women will be punching themselves in the stomach and drinking tons of alcohol to remove the said fetus.
I agree with that in many cases. I am not even arguing to outlaw abortion/child murder(though I absolutely believe it should be illegal), but tax dollars should not be paying for it under any circumstances. While I do not condone abortion/child murder in the case of rape or incest, I can at least understand and sympathize with the reasons behind it. What I do not understand is why the innocent child is the one being punished with the death penalty as a result of the rape. The rapist himself is not eligible for the death penalty, so why is the child murdered for it?
It's not right to tell people what to do.
There is a slight difference between being pro-life and being anti-choice. We are not against a person's right to choose whether or not to have sex - to choose whether or not to have unprotected sex - to choose whether or not to use some other form of contraception - to choose whether or not to use a morning-after pill (speaking for myself personally) or to use a spermicide after the fact - to choose whether or not to put an infant up for adoption or to utilize state 'safe haven' laws to obviate their responsibility for said child.
We ARE opposed to the very slippery slope of acting irresponsibly or not weighing other alternatives to instead opt for an invasive medical procedure that former rape victims have on occasion likened to being raped yet again, can cause PTSD-like symptoms, and kills an embryo that can be viable for self-sustaining life at shockingly early times and can be handled otherwise.
Sorry we push for such a lack of options, but until all die-hard abortion supporters buck up and actively defend everyone else's right to choose on a variety of issues including drug use and various other liberties (such as federal funding for planned parenthood, 'universal' health care, social security, medicare - things that MY money is taken to fund, money that I earned through the work of MY body - where's MY right to choose what to do with MY body, or the fruit thereof?), I could really care less as there are a PROFUSION of choices for them to make.
So, why have laws against murder at all? Why have laws against theft? The government tells us that we must wear seat belts in our cars, but we should not stop child murder?.
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
I don't think it is our job to make these choices for others.
How about "pro-personal responsibility"? If you do something stupid, you pay the consequences. Have unprotected sex, hey guess what? You might get pregnant. Take responsibility for your own actions. Don't ask others to take responsibility for your bad choices. .
What I don't get is most people who are anti abortion are also anti-welfare.
.Or maybe, just maybe, people might stop and think before having sex? Don't say humans cannot control themselves, they can. Animals cannot control themselves, but humans can stop, think, and realize that actions have consequences. .
Soon women will be punching themselves in the stomach and drinking tons of alcohol to remove the said fetus.
It's not right to tell people what to do.
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I agree with that in many cases. I am not even arguing to outlaw abortion/child murder(though I absolutely believe it should be illegal), but tax dollars should not be paying for it under any circumstances. While I do not condone abortion/child murder in the case of rape or incest, I can at least understand and sympathize with the reasons behind it. What I do not understand is why the innocent child is the one being punished with the death penalty as a result of the rape. The rapist himself is not eligible for the death penalty, so why is the child murdered for it?
Originally posted by theUNKNOWNawaits
I find this very saddening as no one should determine what another person should do with their body. Especially in cases of rape or incest. We have choices in this world which is why it is a beautiful world. Noone should take that away.
I am sure though a lot of women if it is banned will just go across state borders to the next state that allows it.
Originally posted by sisgood
See my above post. They did not vote to ban abortion!!! They voted against using public tax dollars FOR abortions!!![
Originally posted by whaaa
Originally posted by sisgood
See my above post. They did not vote to ban abortion!!! They voted against using public tax dollars FOR abortions!!![
How long do you think it will take for all abortions to be made a criminal offense, regardless of funding, public or private?
Small steps...........