Originally posted by Godsent
Boy there can be a lot said about this woman's liberation topic. I believe these liberation groups are a setup for women. One of these days, I
would like to do a study on REAL women to see where their views lie on womens liberation; what they think woman's liberation was intended for and how
far women have come today.
The answer is "not nearly far enough."
Take a look at movies and tv... how many older men stars do you see (and how many do you see "get the cute girl." Now -- how many women of the SAME
age do you see in leading roles (where they are the heroine of the movie) and how many of them do you see ending up with a cute guy the same age as
the Older Guy's Cute Chick?
How many nearly naked women do you see in ads? Now... how about the number of nearly naked men advertising things? There's no equality, and believe
me it's tiresome seeing advertising with "sexy women" (as though the world's population is made up exclusively of men and lesbians.
And how about things like writing and art -- did you ever wonder why the bulk of professional writers, moviemakers, directors, painters, sculptors are
men? It's not because women lack talent in these areas.
I could tell you stories....
...of having my recommendations on computer software overridden (I have a Masters' in computer science and nearly 30 years programming experience) by
the recommendation of a secretary's husband -- said husband was an accountant. He, of course, knew better because he was a man.
...of having my job as network administrator taken away and handed to a man (not because of poor performance, but because they wanted more people and
he was a man. He knew nothing about networks and I'd been running them for three years.)
...of having professional chess players get hysterical (and throw chess pieces at me) when I beat them at tournament matches (I was a professional
chess player...not extremely good, but I was good enough.)
What are women doing now, where are the families, where are men, etc.
We're back at the traditional model of middle class (dating up until the early 1900's) where both parents work. And in general, men these days (the
educated ones) are MUCH better husbands than their fathers were.
The original intent was to liberated against oppressive husbands/men in general. Liberated? Hmmm.
I remember the days when:
...I couldn't get a credit card unless a man cosigned the account
...I couldn't rent a car unless a man cosigned the account
...I couldn't rent a Uhaul without a man.
...car salesmen wouldn't sell me a car without a male of my family being present.
...my husband raped me and I couldn't or stop him (it was "wifely duty.")
...my friend's husband beat her... and she was told it was all her fault.
...I was hired at a biology research field station and was turned into a secretary (I had a degree in biology) while the job of research assistant was
given to a boy who was still in high school.
...a distant relative's husband killed her because he thought she was having an affair. The jury declared him innocent.
...being scorned and sneered at for having a degree... and then daring to get a Masters'... and then trying for my PhD. It wasn't "womanly." My
duty was to sit at home and be stupid. Heaven forbid that I use my brain.
I can rant on about this and provide you with a LOT of stories.
Been there. Lived through that.
The "Donna Reed"/"leave it to Beaver" model that you saw on tv covered up a lot of sins. Most of those stay at home moms formed clubs where they
sat and got plastered on martinis and other drinks (because they were bored and frustrated and lonely.) Valium and other pills (the Beatles song,
"mother's little helper" refers to this) were common as were breakdowns and other problems.
There was a lot of good, and there were some desirable things in that situation, but there was also a lot of bad if you had ambitions to do something
more than sit home and bake cookies. Many of the women of those eras who are widowed are completely incompetant with technology and money management
and tend to fall victim to scams and scammers simply because they were taught to be "good little girls" and to be "proper women" and remember what
a "woman's place" was.
I really should stop ranting now. I could go on at length about this, believe me.