An open letter to the Learned Elders of Zion.

Originally posted by Poker

Originally posted by YHWH2
I have not made any threats of violence.

Given the context in which it appears

Originally posted by YHWH2
(See what happens once the fundamentalist Muslims begin reading it.)

looks very much like a threat. As if The text you hold would cause the "Muslim Fundamentalists" to be so outraged by it they'd have no choice but to retaliate violently against Israel.

The way it reads to me is that there would be a Terrorists attack against Israel because of the information you hold.

edit on 25-5-2011 by Poker because: Rearranged Jumbled Thoughts....

I can never know, like you can never know, how someone will act or behave in some type of situation.

I was only inferring that some of these people may behave angrily. What they do with their anger is not my responsibility. Violence is not the answer, certainly.

I don't see how you think my threat is a violent one. A violent threat, and just a plain threat like this one, are two different things. Your attributed context is misrepresenting the matter, and therefore it is wrong, and you are wrong for making it.

I am not responsible for other people's actions, nor are you, unless you have children and then the way they behave in society is very much your responsibility. Bring them up well and decently, if you do in fact have children. Good manners are important, I feel.

Peace be with you,
YHWH2

Originally posted by JohnySeagull
reply to post by YHWH2

 

You ask what I would do if I owned such material?

I have been on this planet long enough to know that 'I own' no thing on this planet.

The hatred and conflict between the peoples in the middle east is disgusting. I have witnessed this hatred first hand in other locations for many years myself.

You clearly have chosen a side in this conflict. The problems in the middle east will never be solved by someone from either side as the hatred is too strong. It will take someone external to show both sides in this mess how selfish and immature they are.

If you think you will get the audience you expect on this site you are clearly delusion and I believe this is clearly a hoax.

If you are genuine in your threats its very easy to contact the owners of this site and provide assurances that you have the material you claim to have.

You have taken me too literally, and pounced on the first thing which makes some sense to you to attack. Good on you, I'm not fazed.

You are wrong to think I have chosen a side. If I held a book authored by the Palestinian people showing how they are going to attack Israel in some way, I would do the same thing if the situation was reversed. But now I am going into the realm of the hypothetical, and what I claim to hold if not own in the way you see it -- is not a hoax.

I am glad we agree about the state of things in the Middle East, seems like you too would wish for the violence to end. I am sad to hear you have seen first hand a place of heavy violence. It sounds like you have seen the back of such violence now, and are in a peaceful place of residence. I guess I was correct with the 'good riddance' issue.

Peace be with you,
YHWH2

P.S. I will not be releasing the work to anyone here or anyone else attributed to the site as the information I have already included here, should be enough to let the Learned Elders know that I have what I claim. I will also be sending the information to addresses which should find some of them, I have been assured.

The release of this work will only occur grudgingly if Israel fails in finding a Two-State solution in the Middle East with the oppressed people of the stateless Palestine.

Originally posted by YHWH2

P.S. I will not be releasing the work to anyone here or anyone else attributed to the site as the information I have already included here, should be enough to let the Learned Elders know that I have what I claim. I will also be sending the information to addresses which should find some of them, I have been assured.

The release of this work will only occur grudgingly if Israel fails in finding a Two-State solution in the Middle East with the oppressed people of the stateless Palestine.

edit on 25-5-2011 by YHWH2 because: Grammer error rectified.

I was never suggesting you release the work to the owners of the site. I was merely stating that you contact them to provide some assurances as to you are who you claim to be.

To whom would the work be grudginly released to if it turns out so.

Originally posted by YHWH2
reply to post by bluemirage5

 

That is not the work I have in safe-keeping. The work you are linking is an old Russian work. I have the "new" work, expaining 23 new protocols, which will make your link yesterday's news, I'm afraid.

Do you think that once the old work was released the Learned Elders did not go about forming a new direction?

The work I own has never before been seen by a worldwide audience.

Peace be with you,
YHWH2

I have an underground mentality with a lock box in my closet... I also utilize TrueCrypt. I suggest you pass this information onto me for further safekeeping. I promise to wait a year!

reply to post by YHWH2

The release of this work will only occur grudgingly if Israel fails in finding a Two-State solution in the Middle East with the oppressed people of the stateless Palestine.

The Truth shall prevail... Make it happen grudgingly or not. The chips are going to be on the table regardless of your effort. You should realize it really doesn't matter in the long run.

reply to post by YHWH2


how old are you ? 15 ? 16 ?

Originally posted by JohnySeagull

Originally posted by YHWH2

P.S. I will not be releasing the work to anyone here or anyone else attributed to the site as the information I have already included here, should be enough to let the Learned Elders know that I have what I claim. I will also be sending the information to addresses which should find some of them, I have been assured.

The release of this work will only occur grudgingly if Israel fails in finding a Two-State solution in the Middle East with the oppressed people of the stateless Palestine.

edit on 25-5-2011 by YHWH2 because: Grammer error rectified.

I was never suggesting you release the work to the owners of the site. I was merely stating that you contact them to provide some assurances as to you are who you claim to be.

To whom would the work be grudginly released to if it turns out so.

I am not claiming to be anyone. Aren't you paying attention? I am claiming to hold this information which I'm threatening to release. I would never release my identity to anyone I didn't know before hand.

The information will be released on this site, when another thread will be started by me with a link to a site containg this work, and a worldwide audience can read what will be in it, if Israel fails. I say "if"? I do not want to release the work, if I don't have to.

Your suggestion is noted and rejected in its entirety.

Peace,
YHWH2

Originally posted by XmikaX
reply to post by YHWH2

 

how old are you ? 15 ? 16 ?

I'm 15 & a 1/2 years old.

How old are you? 8 ? 8 & a 1/2?

Peace,
YHWH2

Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by YHWH2

 

The release of this work will only occur grudgingly if Israel fails in finding a Two-State solution in the Middle East with the oppressed people of the stateless Palestine.

The Truth shall prevail... Make it happen grudgingly or not. The chips are going to be on the table regardless of your effort. You should realize it really doesn't matter in the long run.

I realize that the only thing which concerns me at present is peace in the Middle East, and a peaceful outcome to the area of conflict between Israel and the Palestinian people.

The "chips" are obviously on the table, I'm just hopeful that the stakes have now been raised even higher, and therefore there is greater reason to find a peaceful solution in the talks at this "table".

Do you not believe that a Two-State solution can be found?

I believe it can be found, and if it happens because of my threat or because this is finally what these two sides want -- then I'll be very happy regardless.

I will never claim that my threat is what made it happen if this solution is found. I just want peace, not any credit. My reward will be in knowing that people in the Middle East are living in harmony and peace.

A Two-State solution in the Middle East, with Palestine acknowledging the divine right to a Jewish State, and Israel agreeing to a Palestinian State of its own -- is the only way forward for these two sides. It must happen.

Now:

Because of my threat, I hope there is some added resolve for Israel to make it happen.

Peace,
YHWH2

Originally posted by Americanist

Originally posted by YHWH2
reply to post by bluemirage5

 

That is not the work I have in safe-keeping. The work you are linking is an old Russian work. I have the "new" work, expaining 23 new protocols, which will make your link yesterday's news, I'm afraid.

Do you think that once the old work was released the Learned Elders did not go about forming a new direction?

The work I own has never before been seen by a worldwide audience.

Peace be with you,
YHWH2

I have an underground mentality with a lock box in my closet... I also utilize TrueCrypt. I suggest you pass this information onto me for further safekeeping. I promise to wait a year!

Your mentality is a good one and serves you well, I'm sure. However, don't be too forthcoming about the location of your "lock box". Presently I know it's in your closet, so do others. That isn't focused mentality, but a mind that is unfocused.

I'm unfamiliar with "TrueCrypt" and would really appreciate if you were to tell me more.

I will not be releasing this work to you, no matter how honest you may be and how good you are in sitting on a secret.

Peace be with you,
YHWH2

Originally posted by YHWH2
I am not claiming to be anyone. Aren't you paying attention? I am claiming to hold this information which I'm threatening to release. I would never release my identity to anyone I didn't know before hand.

The information will be released on this site, when another thread will be started by me with a link to a site containg this work, and a worldwide audience can read what will be in it, if Israel fails. I say "if"? I do not want to release the work, if I don't have to.

Your suggestion is noted and rejected in its entirety.

Peace,
YHWH2

edit on 25-5-2011 by YHWH2 because: (no reason given)

edit on 25-5-2011 by YHWH2 because: Additional point of interest added.

You state above the information will be released on this site if necessary.


Yet in an earlier post you clearly state ;

"P.S. I will not be releasing the work to anyone here or anyone else attributed to the site as the information I have already included here, should be enough to let the Learned Elders know that I have what I claim. I will also be sending the information to addresses which should find some of them, I have been assured."

You state that you will not be releasing the material here and you are only using this site to display you intentions/threats to the Learned Elders.

I think you may be getting confused in your lies.

Many have come onto this site with grand claims like yourself. It becomes very clear when the person posting the information starts to contradict themselves that they cannot keep track of their own lies.
This is clearly a hoax.

Best of luck.

Originally posted by YHWH2

Originally posted by Americanist

Originally posted by YHWH2
reply to post by bluemirage5

 

That is not the work I have in safe-keeping. The work you are linking is an old Russian work. I have the "new" work, expaining 23 new protocols, which will make your link yesterday's news, I'm afraid.

Do you think that once the old work was released the Learned Elders did not go about forming a new direction?

The work I own has never before been seen by a worldwide audience.

Peace be with you,
YHWH2

I have an underground mentality with a lock box in my closet... I also utilize TrueCrypt. I suggest you pass this information onto me for further safekeeping. I promise to wait a year!

Your mentality is a good one and serves you well, I'm sure. However, don't be too forthcoming about the location of your "lock box". Presently I know it's in your closet, so do others. That isn't focused mentality, but a mind that is unfocused.

I'm unfamiliar with "TrueCrypt" and would really appreciate if you were to tell me more.

I will not be releasing this work to you, no matter how honest you may be and how good you are in sitting on a secret.

Peace be with you,
YHWH2

I doubt this is a result of a language barrier, so I'll outright say it... I was be facetious. Regardless, one could store the encrypted file on a usb drive or mini sd card inside a fire proof lock box. Check into it.

I don't think blackmail is going to do you much good anyhow. The game is nearly up.

reply to post by YHWH2


I'll leave you with two quotes...

“We have it in our power to begin the world over again.”

"The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."

-Thomas Paine

reply to post by YHWH2


I'm back and yes I have spent the past 2 hours researching

Mordechai Jakubowski, there was only ever one Jakubowski with the name Mordechai, died in 2008.

I'm now calling you out and I would like you to explain yourself to all the readers here why you have used a name of a Polish Jew and now deceased Holocaust survivor; oh and one more thing, he was fluent in Yiddish, not Hebrew although he knew enough to get by.

reply to post by XmikaX

nobody wants war except those few nazi you propose to let run a nation for themselves.

uhhh, what? Are you now stating that the Palestinians are Nazis? Interesting, I'm not sure how the National Socialist Party in Germany, during the 30-40s has anything to do with those people. Way to show your true colors their friend. I've spotted the racially induced hate speak, and it's coming from you.

anyways, the crap the OP is talking about is just that crap. i do happen to agree that both sides need to work towards a viable 2 state solution, but using outright propaganda do bolster your point isn't going to float here.

People, stop star and flagging this obvious hoax. Stop feeding into this kids delusions of grandeur, and PLEASE do not be goaded into a racist diatribe as is the intent of the OP.

Originally posted by Americanist

Originally posted by YHWH2

Originally posted by Americanist

Originally posted by YHWH2
reply to post by bluemirage5

 

That is not the work I have in safe-keeping. The work you are linking is an old Russian work. I have the "new" work, expaining 23 new protocols, which will make your link yesterday's news, I'm afraid.

Do you think that once the old work was released the Learned Elders did not go about forming a new direction?

The work I own has never before been seen by a worldwide audience.

Peace be with you,
YHWH2

I have an underground mentality with a lock box in my closet... I also utilize TrueCrypt. I suggest you pass this information onto me for further safekeeping. I promise to wait a year!

Your mentality is a good one and serves you well, I'm sure. However, don't be too forthcoming about the location of your "lock box". Presently I know it's in your closet, so do others. That isn't focused mentality, but a mind that is unfocused.

I'm unfamiliar with "TrueCrypt" and would really appreciate if you were to tell me more.

I will not be releasing this work to you, no matter how honest you may be and how good you are in sitting on a secret.

Peace be with you,
YHWH2

I doubt this is a result of a language barrier, so I'll outright say it... I was be facetious. Regardless, one could store the encrypted file on a usb drive or mini sd card inside a fire proof lock box. Check into it.

I don't think blackmail is going to do you much good anyhow. The game is nearly up.

Believe me, if you wish, if you were to see the details in the work attributed to the Learned Elders meetings some of the stuff on this site would look like a Disney or Tunes cartoon -- and blackmail will hopefully work because I, for instance, would never want such work of rare intensity distributed to the masses, if I was the one being recorded.

I don't understand your final comment. If you mean the game is up for Israel in keeping the Palestinian oppressed, then you are correct, I'm hoping.

Hopefully "nearly" is less than a year from now minus one day now, nearly.

Peace be with you, and thank you for withdrawing your discredit tactic. I will provide a link to a site containing the information threatened -- to a thread which will be authored by me here, if Israel fails to meet the Two-State solution.

Peace,
YHWH2

Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by YHWH2

 

I'll leave you with two quotes...

“We have it in our power to begin the world over again.”

"The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."

-Thomas Paine

I like these quotes, thanks for sharing.

Peace be with you,
YHWH2

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by YHWH2

 

I'm back and yes I have spent the past 2 hours researching

Mordechai Jakubowski, there was only ever one Jakubowski with the name Mordechai, died in 2008.

I'm now calling you out and I would like you to explain yourself to all the readers here why you have used a name of a Polish Jew and now deceased Holocaust survivor; oh and one more thing, he was fluent in Yiddish, not Hebrew although he knew enough to get by.

edit on 25-5-2011 by bluemirage5 because: (no reason given)

I hope you have had fun, and that your searching was free and laughingly funny. Furthermore, I hope you didn't get indigestion from you earlier meal. Those Maccas meals are cost-effective, but they tend to want another bite.

Google doesn't yet contain all the world's information, I'm afraid, so your limited research is just that, limited to a few skerricks here&there on the old search web engine.

You have no authority to call me out on anything, youngster. And I will not be called out by you!

Mordechai Jakubowski is the translator of: “The 13 Khawdash Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion.” That is why I have used his name.

What you have set out to achieve through your generic investigative work, I don't know, but not many will, and so your point becomes ineffective, and lost.

Thanks for reassuring me that you spent your time doing this research and that it added up to two whole hours, you really hit the ball out of the field with this one. A Homer it isn't, sadly.

Peace be with you,
YHWH2

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
reply to post by XmikaX

 

anyways, the crap the OP is talking about is just that crap. i do happen to agree that both sides need to work towards a viable 2 state solution, but using outright propaganda do bolster your point isn't going to float here.

People, stop star and flagging this obvious hoax. Stop feeding into this kids delusions of grandeur, and PLEASE do not be goaded into a racist diatribe as is the intent of the OP.

edit on 25-5-2011 by phishyblankwaters because: (no reason given)

I have only one intention by authoring this thread, and it is not racially motivated, nor is there a self-important motivation. Certainly I am not seeking, praise, credit, or grandeur. Nor support, evidently.

I am glad that you agree on a Two-State solution, but are you being racially motivated too by wanting this? I don't think so somehow.

I'm sorry you think this is crap, hopefully you will never have to find out the truth of it. Hopefully, Israel will not force my hand, and a Two-State solution will occur within the timeframe I have set out. I will pray it occurs, because then I'll know the lives of both Israelis and Palestinians will be better through being safer and happier.

BTW: Do you think it is a hoax because such a work simply does not exist, or that the existence of the work wasn't recorded in these meetings and thus is hoax through a fictious work of such meetings? In fact, if I may ask: Where do you sit on the original Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion work? Have you read them and formed any opinions?

Peace be with you,
YHWH2

Originally posted by YHWH2

Originally posted by XmikaX
reply to post by YHWH2

 

how old are you ? 15 ? 16 ?

I'm 15 & a 1/2 years old.

How old are you? 8 ? 8 & a 1/2?

Peace,
YHWH2

edit on 25-5-2011 by YHWH2 because: Question added.

Where did you come to posses these documents? When? And How can you prove a) they existed in the first place, b) you have them, c)you're not just a teenager making up a story, and d) regardless of age, how are we sure that you're not confused about the nature of what you have found looking at it scientifically.
Why would a 15 have an "unreleased" document created by the "Elders of Zion"? I don't doubt that you're of peace, but why would someone 15 years of age have any connection to or be related to anything described as 'Elder'. I'm not saying that age determines 'maturity', knowledge, or the value of someones opinions; but it doesn't make sense for a 15 year old to have a document that will change the world.