Proof of nordic alien females?

the PDF of the account is very detailed....and is only stranger.
I am telling you, this guy is either a horrible story teller, or its just insane enough to be truth.

a snippet of where I am at:

PK: They just vanished. One second they were there.
The thing is that when I bit her nipple . . . she didn’t scream,
she didn’t cry, she didn’t react at all in pain. No way at all
was there any pain associated with what I did. That really
like put a big question mark on what was going on with me.
Like, what the hell was going on? There was no blood, there
was nothing, no trace whatsoever. It was if I took a bite out
of a plastic dummy or mannequin that was made of rubber
or something. When I bit the nipple it felt to me as if I had
bitten a little bit of elastic band for example, rubbery
substance. As soon as I did that I saw the expressions and I
started to cough, got this coughing fit and I might have
taken my eyes of them for a split second I think, then I’ve
looked up and they weren’t there any more. I got out of bed
coughing. All this time really bad coughing. I had something
stuck in the back of my throat that I was trying to
cough out. I remember getting a glass of water, having a
drink, didn’t do anything, walked straight to the bathroom
to use the toilet.

So, it seems the woman's body wasn't her actual body verses...ya...a suit or some such
which makes you then wonder...again, under the assumption that this is all true...

what the hell is the true form? or...makeup...or something.

Could this be some sort of strange government technology testing something (according to greer, the typical alien greys are made by our governments for psyops operations..but then again...its greer, so you know..take it with a grain of salt)

I want to go back to the fact that what makes this case even approachable is what the dna test revealed, not what it did not reveal. Who are these rare people? How does anyone know about them? That's what I want to know. That seems like the obvious thing here but when does the story get to that?.... or did I miss something?

Originally posted by blackcube
The lie detector is not "proof" of anything except the proof that person really believe that what he is telling is "true". If he had an hallucination that X or Y happen... he will believe and tell to everybody that its true.

Its like a schizophrenic person he live in his own personal world and everything that happen in there, its complete, 100% true, for him.

Right, and a few times in this thread I tried to make that clear
What we can so far understand is this
the guy has made a claim...its a very very obscure claim to the eye rolling 9th degree...he also believes this claim fully as being the truth to the best of his understanding.

He can also back up his claim with some hair showing very unusual properties..not fully alien, but so extremely and remarkably odd fringe humanity type dna /pigment mix that the creation of the likely outcome really turns on to the bizarre when contemplating it. its enough to truely have a wtf moment.

So, ya...there is something here...now, the more I read the minor details...the less I think it is a "nord" as described by master hoaxer billy meirs, however, the events seem very unusual, I am wondering what sort of strange skinjob he was encountering...

it could be aliens of course...but it seems now (with the skin being basically fake) that what he was presented was not the reality of what they are...and that just makes it stranger (one could suggest beforehand that..well, perhaps someone just hired some prostitutes to freak him out...)

no, why would anyone even be looking into this case on this level if the hair showed human dna... there are MANY abduction reports, what makes this special and who are the other people inquiring and what is it that they know about this particular dna?... THAT is the askable question here and someone ought to be able to answer those questions without a doubt... so where are the answers?

ok...I am trying to focus my search on the genetics company that did this

I found this: APEG

Now, the reason why I suspect this may be the group that started the test...maybe...is that the pdf states this:

THE DNA ANALYSIS
The analysis by the Anomaly Physical Evidence Group
(APEG) was perfomed on mitochondrial DNA

Same acronym...and its a genetics company. I am trying to see if they changed their name from APEG (anomaly physical evidence group) to APEG (Australasian Paediatric Endocrine Group). perhaps they wanted to branch out into actual mainstream work and make a billion bucks, so changed their name...its coincidental that the acronyms are the same, location the same, field of science the same, etc...so far, thats all I got...but if this is the company, I am then satisfied with the results of the DNA being properly studied

Originally posted by ChaosMagician
no, why would anyone even be looking into this case on this level if the hair showed human dna... there are MANY abduction reports, what makes this special and who are the other people inquiring and what is it that they know about this particular dna?... THAT is the askable question here and someone ought to be able to answer those questions without a doubt... so where are the answers?

Well, here is the findings report:

. . . mitochondrial DNA analysis of the hair shaft from
a reportedly tall, blonde alien female shows that she is
biologically close to normal human genetics, but of an
unusual racial type. . . . One might predict further that
her DNA should match closely that of racial types in
Finland, Iceland, or Scandinavia, given the long, thin
blonde hair as direct evidence, plus her tall stature and
fair skin from eyewitness testimony, but . . . that seems
not to be the case.
. . . The blonde hair provides for a strange and
unusual DNA sequence, showing five consistent substitutions
from a human consensus (present in all cloned
sequences), which could not easily have come from
anyone else in the Sydney area except by the rarest of
chances; is not apparently due to any sort of laboratory
contamination; and is found only in a few other people
throughout the whole world.
What implications might these comparisons have
for possible authenticity of the alien hair sample as
collected by the young man in Sydney in 1992? While
it would not be impossible for him to have had sexual
contact with some fair-skinned, nearly albino female
from the Sydney area, such an explanation is ruled out
by the DNA evidence, which fits only a Chinese Mongoloid
as a donor of the hair. Furthermore, while it
might be possible to find a few Chinese in Sydney with
the same DNA as seen in just 4% of Taiwanese women,
it would not be plausible to find a Chinese woman here
with thin, almost clear hair, having the same rare DNA.
Finally, that thin blonde hair could not plausibly represent
a chemically-bleached Chinese (including the root),
because then it’s DNA could not easily have been
extracted.
The most probable donor of the hair must therefore
be as the young man claims: a tall blonde female who
does not need much color in her hair or skin as a form
of protection against the sun, perhaps because she does
not require it. Could this young man really have provided,
by chance, a hair sample which contains DNA
from one of the rarest human lineages known . . . that
lies further from the mainstream than any other except
for African Pygmies and aboriginals?

That intresting , but i find his reaction really weird for that kind of situation, who did examine the hair samples and how credible he is ?

Originally posted by elyaeno
That intresting , but i find his reaction really weird for that kind of situation, who did examine the hair samples and how credible he is ?

Who is he?
his weird reaction seems fitting for a weird situation, no?

and the group, AGEP did the testing, I am trying to figure out of the genetics company AGEP of today in aussy is the same as the one in 1999 under the same acronym...but am finding it difficult to confirm. I may write them an email to simply confirm if their companys are one and the same, or if anything, to give a lead.

reply to post by Arbitrageur


I have to agree. If they can't name the lab who did the tests and came up with supposed results, then the only part of the story that makes it credible, the lab test, is probably a fake, a false claim made up by the people making the video, and the analysis does not sound like something a lab would put out, especially on something like this. We should be hearing mitochondrial DNA types, not about African pygmies.

If seems that alien beings who look like hot Nordic babes with great bodies would have a better plan to seduce a bloke. Buy the guy a few drinks at the bar, or stick out a thumb on the side of the road, or just wiggle their little finger at the guy of their choice.

Originally posted by poet1b
We should be hearing mitochondrial DNA types, not about African pygmies.

You mean like this:

MITOCHONDRIAL DNA SEQUENCE ANALYSIS OF A SHED HAIR FROM AN
ALIEN ABDUCTION CASE
Performed by the Anomaly Physical Evidence Group (APEG), in April 1999
A great controversy currently exists as to whether the
many reported alien abduction cases worldwide might be
physically real or else purely psychological phenomena.
Thus, those people who believe in the UFO alien scenario
tend to accept the investigations of authors such as Budd
Hopkins or John Mack, who have provided circumstantial
evidence for the abduction of humans in terms of: (a)
landing-site traces, (b) prominent “biopsy” scars, (c) alleged
“implants” (or artifacts ostensibly removed from
abducted people), and (d) testimonies from hundreds of
supposedly abducted individuals, whether by conscious
recall or under hypnosis. However, those people who do not
believe in the UFO alien scenario (and this would include
the majority of professional scientists) tend not to accept the
current evidence for alien abductions, seeing it as too weak
and circumstantial to justify such a major shift in their way
of perceiving the world.
Indeed, these supposed abductions leave surprisingly
little evidence that could be tested in a scientific laboratory,
according to standard procedures; hence, if real they might
be intentionally covert in nature.
The detailed analysis of any reliable evidence from an
alien abduction case might therefore be of great scientific
value, in order to assess the reality of this phenomenon, as
well as to identify the biological nature of such visitors.

Read the full article Here
Got images and all sorts (starts at page 13)

As I said, I am trying to figure out of AGEP of today is the same company as AGEP in 1999

if it hasn't been said already.
It's fairly obvious this man had some sort of adverse reaction to some sort of male sexual enhancement medication. So he my certainly believe that the events he's telling are real, but in fact were delusions.
Buyer beware!

Originally posted by poet1b
If seems that alien beings who look like hot Nordic babes with great bodies would have a better plan to seduce a bloke. Buy the guy a few drinks at the bar, or stick out a thumb on the side of the road, or just wiggle their little finger at the guy of their choice.

Oh, and to answer that...yes, I don't think they would have trouble finding participants...but, this seems to be targetted harvesting (this is not his first encounter according to him...the others were not as pleasent)..so, there is something, be it some sort of genetic marker, or something, that may be attracting this specific person to them..or a very select few on earth (considering..come to find out, this claim is not as unique as I first suspected)

Originally posted by Dmonix
if it hasn't been said already.
It's fairly obvious this man had some sort of adverse reaction to some sort of male sexual enhancement medication. So he my certainly believe that the events he's telling are real, but in fact were delusions.
Buyer beware!

Delusions don't typically produce the hair in question though

Don't write it off just because the story is weird...or "alien" to a typical claim.

reply to post by Jepic


Thats what you say now (about pounding them haha) and i'd say that too.

But really put yourself in the situation in your head, personally id freak right out and probably try attack them or something. But if they gave me a minute and explained, then id go for it

reply to post by SaturnFX


No, information like this.

www.dnahaplogroups.org...

Naming of Haploid Group, Capital letters A to Z (e.g. mtDNA haplogroup H).
Naming of Subclade, Lower case letters and numbers (e.g. mtDNA subclade H2a).
Line traced, Maternal lineage (mother's mother's mother...), example, Eve.

Also, there should be some abstract on testing methodology.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

No, information like this.

www.dnahaplogroups.org...

Naming of Haploid Group, Capital letters A to Z (e.g. mtDNA haplogroup H).
Naming of Subclade, Lower case letters and numbers (e.g. mtDNA subclade H2a).
Line traced, Maternal lineage (mother's mother's mother...), example, Eve.

Also, there should be some abstract on testing methodology.

yes...its there
You will want to check out pages 14-15. that gives what your asking.

Keep in mind, this is also 1999, so they didn't have a flashy webpage breakdown...sorta "sciency" I guess...but the information provided seems to match up with the link you provided in regards to content..I also would like to see the offical report

time to dig further I guess, but the thing is, the more I dig, the more that comes up as pretty much what was said...and my laziness gene is screaming at me...so, care to help find the root verses just say what isn't currently copy/pasted into the thread?

I am most interested in finding out who these rare people are because I think this is what is raising eyebrows on anyone of notoriety who is even putting time in this case because MANY people have claimed to see aliens. People don't just take you on your word and start an investigation on abductions unless there is something fueling it such as evidence or the need to hype to sell a book or something. This evidence doesn't back up any alien claim.

Especially with the aids resistance thing. I think what they find most interesting is this isolated dna and what it says about human history.

Not saying it couldn't have been a hybrid, my stance is not meant to be skeptical of alien involvement, just that there is no obvious reason to keep calling it an alien abduction.... so whoever is taking the time to listen to the guy and send him to be regressed and all that other stuff is either hyping this as an alien abduction without merit... or is primarily interested in this rare race of people.

Certainly he didn't make all this happen by himself, pay for all this to be done... but who knows.
It just seems that there is an interest here that is quite human, but perhaps just as odd as the thought of aliens.

This could point to the idea that alien abduction claims, like being over come by forces and powers that can't be identified and all sorts of paranormal stuff.... could actually be happening care of actual people who are a lot closer to us than we realize. It makes you wonder what secrets the world is hiding from plain view.

Found Bill's email addey...going to shoot him a email to ask about the genetics company and the offical report...will see if he responds within the next few days (hopefully)

reply to post by SaturnFX


But even if he had some specific DNA marker they were looking for, I would think they could have put together a better plan.

Maybe they got their information on seduction from some porno biker video in a strip joint. If the guy was home alone, it seems all they needed to do was knock on the door, introduce themselves as his new neighbors.

It is a really weird story, like the concept, make it was weird as possible so that it is more believable.