'New kind of militant' behind Pakistan Karachi attack

'New kind of militant' behind Pakistan Karachi attack

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The first time the militants were seen was when they appeared on the runway, weapons at the ready. "The [navy] men couldn't believe their eyes," says an official.
A number of officials listed to me their observations, which reinforced the conviction that they were being confronted with a totally different kind of militant, possibly hitherto unseen:
• Military formation: One injured sailor told an official that the attackers "moved and dressed like us". The militants moved in tactical military formation and spoke in military parlance. They spoke between themselves in Urdu, as well as

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first of all i have family in karachi and this really scared me when i read the news of what happened on sunday (their sunday) as i could not reach them for a good 2 hours as phone lines were not appear to be working

anybody could have done this, even the pakistan military themselves. as mentioned in the article this seems to have been planed for some time. another blow to the military and intelligence organization in a span of month if you count the bin laden kill.

my thoughts:

- someone trying to prove to pakistan that even they can not handle nuclear arms and should hand it over

- destabilize the military to humiliate them in front of the citizens (the army is almost well loved) and to plan for future encounter/war

- attack on chinese nationals could hurt pakistan and china relations, the chinese being an important ally to pakistan

really my head is spinning right now, i shall wait for more word from relatives and the media outlet

also the death of the the president father (it could relate some how)

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Those MOSSAD and Saudi special ops commandos can be a hard group to take out

Second

My first thought was... "so the terrorists are evolving?"

reply to post by ZarbeMomin


My first thought was ''Why is Pakistan seeming more and more like a hotspot for inflamatory events? It is all going on in Pakistan right now and I worry that it could be a trigger for further escalations!"

My 2 cents.

I'm very interested to know

1. How many were caught alive
2. How many people were killed
3. Where is the US special ops helicopter tail stored
4. Who delivered them to the fences
5. What are the chinese engineers doing at the base
6. In these dangerous times, who leaves a 'weak' spot on defense un-defended

reply to post by Agit8dChop

1. How many were caught alive
2. How many people were killed
3. Where is the US special ops helicopter tail stored
4. Who delivered them to the fences
5. What are the chinese engineers doing at the base
6. In these dangerous times, who leaves a 'weak' spot on defense un-defended

1.0
2.11
3. Returned to the U.S. today
4. unknown so far, probably 'terrorist' buddies
5. Great question, let me know when you find out
6. They cut through a fence

How did I do?

Originally posted by Skerrako
reply to post by Agit8dChop

 

1. How many were caught alive
2. How many people were killed
3. Where is the US special ops helicopter tail stored
4. Who delivered them to the fences
5. What are the chinese engineers doing at the base
6. In these dangerous times, who leaves a 'weak' spot on defense un-defended

1.0
2.11
3. Returned to the U.S. today
4. unknown so far, probably 'terrorist' buddies
5. Great question, let me know when you find out
6. They cut through a fence

How did I do?

the chinese were training pakistani soldiers, they were flight instructors or something along the lines

IMO
what you are seeing is the same tactic
used on 9/11.

Al Queda - CIA Trained and Recruited

those on 9/11 gave their lives as well
for their cause.

Read the BBC article. Clearly these militants displayed a high degree of training and efficiency to be able to infiltrate a military base and do some serious damage. Definitely not your run of the mill "terrorists".

2 scenarios

1- CIA has infiltrated the Pakistani Taliban? If true then whose to say they are not training them? and controlling them to destabilize?

2- Or Pakistan is just trying to act like the victim and distance itself from US, when Pakistan obviously looks like it is on the same boat as US.

How did they acquire the m-16's that they used in the raid?

They were also reportedly very accurate shots, which the Taliban are decidedly not.

I heard somewhere that China GAVE Pakistan 50 of their newest fighter jets. That could explain the presence of the Chinese military personnel.

Many questions, and the answers could point to something big.

reply to post by Skerrako


Dude, if i wanted to know what the 'official - version' was id look at foxnews.
The questions were posed because the answer that are the truth will never be known.

Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
Read the BBC article. Clearly these militants displayed a high degree of training and efficiency to be able to infiltrate a military base and do some serious damage. Definitely not your run of the mill "terrorists".

Im wondering how relevant the secret mercinary army the Saudi's and US are building up have anything to do with this?

Secret Army of Mercinaries for Mid east and Africa

In Zayed Military City, in a training camp in a desert area of the United Arab Emirates (UAE), a secret army is in the making.

This secret army of mercenaries, which is slated to be used not only in the Emirates but throughout the Middle East and North Africa, was created by Erik Prince, a former member of Navy SEALS who in 1997 founded Blackwater, the largest private military company on contract to the Pentagon in Iraq, Afghanistan and other war zones. The company, which in 2009 was renamed Xe Services (also in order to escape legal action for the massacres of civilians in Iraq), owns a large training camp in the United States, where more than fifty thousand "specialists of war and repression" have been trained. And Xe is in the process of opening other training camps.

In several countries including South Africa and Colombia, they started recruiting mercenaries to form an initial battalion of 800 men. They are trained in the UAE by U.S., British, French and German military professionals, with a background in special forces and the secret services. The trainers are paid 200-300 thousand dollars a year, while the recruits receive about $150 a day.

Once the efficiency of the battalion has been tested in a "real action" scenario, Abu Dhabi will fund with billions of dollars a whole brigade of several thousand mercenaries. It is expected to set up a large training camp in the UAE, similar to that operating in the United States.

How is this different to Osama setting up terrorist training camps in Afghanistan?

A couple thousand mercinary army fighting for payment for whatver cause money is thrown at.

How do we know that these guys are not behind the terrorist attacks in Pakistan?

Terrorist=Mercinary

depends on what side of the fence but pretty much the sameTerrorist fights for religious extremism, mercianry fights for the dollar....

reply to post by Melbourne_Militia


Great post.

This whole thing smacks of what you just laid out.

reply to post by sk0rpi0n


And what kind of terrorists go in tactically with specific military targets? Isn't the term "terrorist used for those that terrorize citizens and the general population?

This was more like a commando assault or sting operation rather than a terrorist attack.

They had numerous grenades, Rpg's, night vision goggles and sniper rifles. Not your run of the mill brainwashed taliban

reply to post by Skerrako


Can you post a link about the helicopter tail being returned to the US today? I'd love to read some details on that.

reply to post by Skerrako


Also note that the BBC articles headline pre-supposes that it was a militant attack, albiet a "new kind".
In doing so it establishes that the assailants were militants and rules out other possibilities such as them being heavily trained military/mercenary units.

Something big is going down in Pakistan.

reply to post by Melbourne_Militia


Spot on dude...

If only alqaeda had of registered as a corporation and paid legal people to defend them they too could have succesfully murdered thousands of people and claimed rights under the US legal system.