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Australian Student Uncovers the Universe’s Missing Mass

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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 05:47 PM

Originally posted by playswithmachines
reply to post by Cryptonomicon

It is not only expanding, it's accelerating.
Think deep thoughts my freind....

Attempt to explain why you conclude it is accerlerating while keeping in mind the distances involved and the time said information was created.

If you do that correctly, you'll realize something you haven't before.

posted on May, 25 2011 @ 06:01 PM
The whole Big Bang theory falls flat on it's face when one considers that for there to be a bang there must be something to go bang. Nothing cannot explode, in fact nothing does not exist. Time is immortal. So is energy.

Mass is formed from energy by the contraction of the electric pole's. Mass = Energy and Energy = Mass because of this.

Here is a book download. It is very complicated, but I think present day scientists are trying to twist the information provided in Walters book and then claim it as thier own.

The universe is electric in nature. Even for a relatively uneducated man like me this is easy to see.

The entire universe is a sea of energy/mass in constant flux or fluctuation like + 0 - 0 + 0 - 0 + .
A swing from one side of Zero Point positive to the other negative the other. this give's us polarity and zero point.

And waves which is an expression of energy.

It makes sense to me anyway.

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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 06:06 PM
I always thought that the outer structure of the universe would cease to expand and eventually break down. The more the outer structure crumbles the faster the inner parts of the universe become spread out and get sucked out. Sucked out into whatever lies outside the universe, total emptiness...

posted on May, 25 2011 @ 06:18 PM

Originally posted by Toecutter.
Time is immortal. So is energy.

There is no time then, and apparent motion and causation is an illusion of sorts unless it's part of an eternal evolutionary process (that's what I think).

And since we're in "it" now, this is IT - there's no escape folks, not even in death, since death of a single organism is but a mere tiny part of the larger process that is life eternal already always now and forever.

There is no spoon...

Edit: On the Akashic Field of an evolutionary eternal recurrance (arrow of progress in eternity)

"The God Theory" by Bernard Haisch

Haisch is an astrophysicist whose professional positions include Staff Scientist at the Lockheed Martin Solar and Astrophysics Laboratory, Deputy Director for the Center for Extreme Ultraviolet Astrophysics at the University of California, Berkeley, and Visiting Fellow at the Max-Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics in Garching, Germany. His work has led to close involvement with NASA; he is the author of over 130 scientific papers; and was the Scientific Editor of the Astrophysical Journal for nine years, as well as the editor in chief of the Journal of Scientific Exploration.

an excerpt

If you think of white light as a metaphor of infinite, formless potential, the colors on a slide or frame of film become a structured reality grounded in the polarity that comes about through intelligent subtraction from that absolute formless potential. It results from the limitation of the unlimited. I contend that this metaphor provides a comprehensible theory for the creation of a manifest reality (our universe) from the selective limitation of infinite potential (God)...
If there exists an absolute realm that consists of infinite potential out of which a created realm of polarity emerges, is there any sensible reason not to call this "God"? Or to put it frankly, if the absolute is not God, what is it? For our purposes here, I will indentify the Absolute with God. More precisely I will call the Absolute the Godhead. Applying this new terminology to the optics analogy, we can conclude that our physical universe comes about when the Godhead selectively limits itself, taking on the role of Creator and manifesting a realm of space and time and, within that realm, filtering out some of its own infinite potential...
Viewed this way, the process of creation is the exact opposite of making something out of nothing. It is, on the contrary, a filtering process that makes something out of everything. Creation is not capricious or random addition; it is intelligent and selective subtraction. The implications of this are profound.

If the Absolute is the Godhead, and if creation is the process by which the Godhead filters out parts of its own infinite potential to manifest a physical reality that supports experience, then the stuff that is left over, the residue of this process, is our physical universe, and ourselves included. We are nothing less than a part of that Godhead - quite literally.

Next, by Ervin Laszlo

Science and the Akashic Field, an Integral Theory of Everything, 2004

And, his other seminal work
Science and the Reenchantment of the Cosmos: The Rise of the Integral Vision of Reality

Ervin Laszlo is considered one of the foremost thinkers and scientists of our age, perhaps the greatest mind since Einstein. His principal focus of research involves the Zero Point Field. He is the author of around seventy five books (his works having been translated into at least seventeen languages), and he has contributed to over 400 papers. Widely considered the father of systems philosophy and general evolution theory, he has worked as an advisor to the Director-General of the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization. He was also nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in both 2004 and 2005. A multidisciplinarian, Laszlo has straddled numerous fields, having worked at universities as a professor of philosophy, music, futures studies, systems science, peace studies, and evolutionary studies. He was a sucessful concert pianist until he was thirty eight.

In his view, the zero-point field (or the Akashic Field, as he calls it) is quite literally the "mind of God".

Naming Hal Puthoff, Roger Penrose, Fritz-Albert Popp, and a handful of others as "front line investigators", Laszlo quotes Puthoff who says of the new scientific paradigm:

[What] would emerge would be an increased understanding that all of us are immersed, both as living and physical beings, in an overall interpenetrating and interdependant field in ecological balance with the cosmos as a whole, and that even the boundary lines between the physical and "metaphysical" would dissolve into a unitary viewpoint of the universe as a fluid, changing, energetic/informational cosmological unity."

an excert from Science and the Akashic Field, an Integral Theory of Everything

Akasha (a . ka . sha) is a Sanskrit word meaning "ether": all-pervasive space. Originally signifying "radiation" or "brilliance", in Indian philosophy akasha was considered the first and most fundamental of the five elements - the others being vata (air), agni (fire), ap (water), and prithivi (earth). Akasha embraces the properties of all five elements: it is the womb from which everything we percieve with our senses has emerged and into which everything will ultimately re-descend. The Akashic Record (also called The Akashic Chronicle) is the enduring record of all that happens, and has ever happened, in space and time."

Laszlo's view of the history of the universe is of a series of universes that rise and fall, but are each "in-formed" by the existence of the previous one. In Laszlo's mind, the universe is becoming more and more in-formed, and within the physical universe, matter (which is the crystallization of intersecting pressure waves or an interference pattern moving through the zero-point field) is becoming increasing in-formed and evolving toward higher forms of consciousness and realization.


According to James Oroc's experiences (Tryptamine Palace), when the ego is dissolved in consciousness through the temporary formation of a type of neurological "Bose Einstein Condensate", there is no real dilineation or distinction between individual consciousness and God-consciousness or the universal "akashic field" (Lazslo) aka Zero Point Field.

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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 06:32 PM

Originally posted by stumason

Originally posted by Cryptonomicon
Their methods for measuring the "expansion" of the universe are based on a fundamentally flawed assumption concerning the properties of light, which is, that light waves remain constant across vast amounts of time and space.

Once they understand that light naturally "red shifts" as it ages/crosses space, then they'll realize that the universe is neither inflating nor contracting; it's basically static.
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I thought the concept of red-shift was well understood and used to gauge distance in Astronomy?

Either that, or I misunderstand your post, but you seem to be pointing out the blatantly obvious that was discovered 50 odd years ago, if not more.

Well, yes and no.

The concept of "red shift" is real in so much that light emitted from a body whilst travelling rapidly away from you will shift towards the red.

Astronomers observed that light from (very very) far away galaxies was red shifting, so they concluded that they were expanding away from us.

The further away they looked (and hence, the older the information) the more red shift they saw. From that they concluded that the expansion was accelerating.

Finally, they observed that this effect seems to be the same in ever direction we look in the sky. This led them to conclude that (since we aren't in the "center" of the universe) that everything is expanding away from everything else.

There are three very basic mistakes they are making to reach that conclusion.

  1. They are assuming that the properties of light waves (wavelength) stay the same over billions of years. They have no method for testing this currently, so they assume it to be true. This is a very very important assumption.
  2. They conclude the opposite of what the information tells them to. Remember how they observed that older/further observations were moving *faster* than newer/closer observations? Well, if you observe 10 minutes ago that an object was moving 100mph, and then later at 5 min ago another similar object was moving at 50mph, then your conclusion should be that those objects are *decelerating*.
  3. Since everything seems to be moving away from us at the same rate no matter which direction we look, they reached the bizarre conlcusion that everything is expanding away from everything else. Why not simply conclude that the light wavelengths are red shifting the same because they are travelling the same distances/time periods?

The simpler explanation to ALL of this is: It's the natural property of light to red-shift over billions of years.

This would explain everything in a much simpler fashion. The galaxies aren't expanding away from each other, they are actually now (the "now" everywhere) staying put (no expansion, no contraction). Explains why we see the same red shift EVERYWHERE we look.

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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 06:42 PM
reply to post by Cryptonomicon

Highly evolved beings must think that we're total idiots, eh?

Question: Is it possible that every galaxy we see beyond our own, is a less evolved one which has already passed away, leaving ONLY the Milky Way (since it obviously still exists now), on top of a type of cosmic evolutionary "mountain" of nothing - is that possible..?

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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 07:49 PM

Originally posted by Cryptonomicon
Once they understand that light naturally "red shifts" as it ages/crosses space, then they'll realize that the universe is neither inflating nor contracting; it's basically static.

And once they understand that light doesn't actually ever move... then science will finally grasp the true nature of the "oneness" of what we have been studying.


posted on May, 25 2011 @ 07:52 PM

Originally posted by TheUniverse
Thats not even possible because every neural connector would be made up of multiple molecules so how does your statement make sense it doesn't!

There are definitely way more molecules and/or atoms in the universe than there are neural interconnections in the brain i can guarantee you this.

You're statement sort of contradicts common sense! Because each neural connector would be made of many molecules...

I'm not going to assert that the poster you are replying to is accurate.

However... imagine 4 particles. Between these 4 particles there is the potential for up to 6 direct connections.

This is how there can be more connections than points.


posted on May, 25 2011 @ 09:22 PM
I can only wonder if what they think they are seeing isn't actually what is going on due to a combination of phase differential and angle of acceleration.

If light is not particle movement, but only wave movement of the strands that tie space and matter together, then differences in frequency differential would give us a different frequency than these filaments are actually vibrating. We only see some of these filaments because of angles of velocity of the movement of our part of the universe in relation to the distant parts of the universe which we are observing.

posted on May, 25 2011 @ 10:29 PM
That, or it's under Rosie O'Donnell's sweatshirt.

posted on May, 26 2011 @ 12:11 AM
Very awesome thread, so if those "walls" are really out there, what's on the other side?

posted on May, 26 2011 @ 12:19 AM
reply to post by Cryptonomicon

well... snap.

posted on May, 26 2011 @ 12:20 AM
reply to post by jessejamesxx

Take a ride with me.

posted on May, 26 2011 @ 06:47 AM
Nice work Xploder. This is just another in the recent run of discoveries/announcements that no doubt confirms the existence of large scale intergalactic currents. And they are behaving exactly as plasma cosmologists have been describing for decades. The fillaments (birkeland currents) have the ability to scavenge up even non ionised matter and accrete it radially inwards in a process called 'marklund convection'.

I think you'd really enjoy Wall Thornhills latest article, it just happens to be about the intergalactic filaments!

Alfven Triumphs Again (and Again)

Now two new reports stand out in relation to Alfvén’s predictions so that ultimately he cannot be ignored. The first concerns the birth of stars and the second the electric circuit of the Sun....

..... The telescope (Herschel) has been giving astronomers an unprecedented look inside the cosmic womb of stars, known as molecular clouds, to find (surprise, surprise) that stars are formed in “an incredible network of filamentary structures, and features indicating a chain of near-simultaneous star-formation events, glittering like strings of pearls deep in our Galaxy.” Although described as “incredible” by astronomers, this description precisely matches the decades-old expectations of plasma cosmologists!

.....In an ESA report last month the high-resolution of the Herschel space observatory produced another surprise, “The filaments are huge, stretching for tens of light years through space and Herschel has shown that newly-born stars are often found in the densest parts of them... Such filaments in interstellar clouds have been glimpsed before by other infrared satellites, but they have never been seen clearly enough to have their widths measured. Now, Herschel has shown that, regardless of the length or density of a filament, the width is always roughly the same. “This is a very big surprise,” says Doris Arzoumanian, Laboratoire AIM Paris-Saclay, CEA/IRFU

Stars are born inside the pinches of these fillaments, other recent papers have described magnetic fields dominating over gravity in star formation.

In a nutshell...

The constant width over vast distances is due to the current flowing along the Birkeland filaments, each filament constituting a part of a larger electric circuit. And in a circuit the current must be the same in the whole filament although the current density can vary in the filament due to the electromagnetic pinch effect. Therefore the electromagnetic scavenging effect on matter from the molecular cloud, called Marklund convection, is constant along each current filament, which simply explains the consistency of widths of the filaments. The stars form as plasmoids in the Bennett-pinches, also known in plasma labs on Earth as Z-pinches.

Just on the case of the missing matter, This is only a problem in the big bang gravity driven universe. And no this doesn't account for the missing matter in that model anyway. Thing is, it seems the constant of gravity isn't all that constant and has been pretty difficult to lock down. Problems from the get go

posted on May, 26 2011 @ 06:59 AM
I find this to be incredibly insulting to the scientists that have, for
decades (in reality the theory goes back much further), proposed
plasma cosmology and been scoffed at by the Dark Matter and
Dark Energy priests..

For those unaware, bone up on the plasma universe theory as it
describes this filamentary structure and did so long before this
kid was born.

posted on May, 26 2011 @ 07:48 AM
The paper also mentions the Suzaku findings.

Indeed, Kawahara et al. (2011) have presented evidence for a galaxy group forming at the intersection of
several filaments of galaxies from Suzaku observations

So where have we heard this before? No prizes there, people are catching on.
Can we say bennett pinch?

posted on May, 26 2011 @ 08:10 AM
The first thing I thought was this..

posted on May, 26 2011 @ 09:14 AM
reply to post by XPLodER

Fantastic presentation XPLodER. I have deep interest in what is called Dark energy and dark matter. So from what I took from your read there have been measurements of the universe taken accurate and there was always a hidden when calculating the amount of mass and space this mass would take up and the amount of time it should take for mass to form in these areas. And thru previous observations the calculations didn't add up. Now this new scholar has found another step in the direction of understanding why these equations didn't add up. The filaments the energized bands of electron/neg. charged energy seem to hold a lot of the mass that was missing from the previous equations, which makes sense. Many were looking for massive amounts of matter distributed evenly in forms of galaxies or nebulas to try and balance their previous data and here existed bands or conduits of electron/neg. charged high density particles condensed together with the pressures of Dark energy controlling the forms of the filaments. And the directional flow of this dark energy being materialized as dark matter or matter that interacts with visible matter has possibly effected the directions or orientation of the Galaxies and other matter forms electrically charged as well causing these visible matters to follow the created path of the filaments like a bunch of beads strung in line on a dense string of electron/neg. energy.

This all makes alot of sense when considering the Dark Energy may very well be old ancient energies reformulated and redistributed as dark matter being electron charged neg. charged compressing the dark matter old dark energy in form to lay the filament path of visible matter of positive energy that can be seen. Allowing for the universe to be observed and equated during these periods this Dark energy has converted to dark matter and then to visible matter.

The timing and aging of the Universe seems to be off severely with the amounts of time thought to build these mega structures. 13.5 billi for universal build 100billi for filament builds. So how does something within the Universe become older then the universe
. Hmmm in time we shall see. I personally feel that dark energy and matter are not bound to the universal understandings and laws as many other universal elements. And this energy if recycled old or ancient energy may be being ejected from some sources notice sources that are moving visible matter and other matters from old matter to new matter forms recycle in speeds that cannot be understood fully by internal universal inhabitants. So no matter how much tried inside you cannot grasp the time fully. So these mega structures may in fact be formed extremely fast depending on the size and speeds the JETS are streaming them thru the old ancient energies making them new again.

I really enjoyed this thread infact its my FAVORITE 1

Stars stars stars too you OP

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posted on May, 26 2011 @ 11:09 AM

Originally posted by Toecutter.
The whole Big Bang theory falls flat on it's face when one considers that for there to be a bang there must be something to go bang. Nothing cannot explode, in fact nothing does not exist. Time is immortal. So is energy.

Mass is formed from energy by the contraction of the electric pole's. Mass = Energy and Energy = Mass because of this.

My answer to that is a Cyclical Universe.

I don't think the universe necessarily expands and contracts like they think it does now, but it definitely had a 'beginning' and will have an 'end', based on our perspective anyways.. It keeps going. You can't create or destroy energy.

My theory for a while was that after the universe ran it's course, after the black holes in galaxies have pretty much eaten up everything, and the black holes from the clusters of galaxies group together into super black holes, everything would swallow up on it's self, into a giant ball of mass - creating a point where a big bang could occur again.

I'm starting to like the fractal universe theory though, which doesn't really discount the previous one.. it just adds on infinitely to it

posted on May, 26 2011 @ 12:55 PM
Just ran across this 3D map of the universe.

Astronomers have created the most complete 3-D map of our local universe, revealing new details about our place in the cosmos.

The map shows all visible structures out to about 380 million light-years, which includes about 45,000 of our neighboring galaxies (the diameter of the Milky Way is about 100,000 light-years across). [See the new 3-D universe map image.]

Thought if some one had not seen it before, it would be an interesting site.
Now, take out your crayons and fill in the spaces of dark matter
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