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The Palestinian Propaganda, and the Truth of how Israelies BELONG in Israel.

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posted on May, 27 2011 @ 12:35 AM
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Israel is not controlled by Jewish bankers at all, Israel is controlled by Israelis - PERIOD!

I don't give a damn what any of you say - Israel is not going anywhere, not now, not ever.

Like it or lump it, there's nothing you can say nor do about it!




posted on May, 27 2011 @ 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by backinblack
 


The USS Liberty was NOT 100 miles off the coast at all. How on earth did you figure that one out?


Sorry, I thought you'd understand that meant 100 miles away from the area of coast that Israel claim had been shelled..



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 12:39 AM
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I'm sorry, your facts are wrong.
But I'm sure israel did all that they could to spin an obvious murder.
You will see things how you want that is fine, I tried to aid you with the small bit of factual knowledge i do have.
Remember the USS Liberty!

(Edit)
I will add, I do agree with you that the US should not have been there and I would go as far to say we still should not be there physically (tanks, aircraft, small arms), or monetarily.
We should just leave the "sovereign" state of israel alone.
edit on 27-5-2011 by g146541 because: to add and agree.



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by g146541
 


The USS Liberty was NOT clearly marked as you allege. In fact, there were no markings to suggest it was American and anyone who claims otherwise, including those on board the naval vessel, are liars in the first degree.

You guys were on a spy mission; obviously the ship is going to be unmarked!!!
edit on 26-5-2011 by bluemirage5 because: (no reason given)


That's a pretty serious alegation. If you are going to call the veterans from the USS Liberty liars, please provide actualy proof. Otherwise stop being so disrespectful.



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by Stewie
 


Israel is not controlled by Jewish bankers at all, Israel is controlled by Israelis - PERIOD!
I don't give a damn what any of you say - Israel is not going anywhere, not now, not ever.
Like it or lump it, there's nothing you can say nor do about it!


Nah, Israel may always be there but it's Government will need to change it's stance or it may be turned to ruble..
But yes, it will still be there..



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 12:49 AM
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It's not an allegation, it's fact. I don't need to show you proof because I'm not the one making an allegation the ship was clearly marked and was outside Egyptian waters.

Now......got soldi proof you knocked off OBL on 1 May 2011 ???



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 12:50 AM
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The Arabs have tried and failed 5 times.......

so unless you know something I don't know?
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posted on May, 27 2011 @ 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by SpeachM1litant
 


You know what? Who cares what you and your ilk thinks. Israel is going no where and there's nothing you can say or do to change that.

Got it?


I don't want Israel to go anywhere. I want them to stay in the middle east within the pre-June 1967 borders. I want the Jews to have their own state and live peacefully amongst the Arabs. I want Israel and Palestine to both have their own states. I want both Israel and Palestine to abide by international law.

It seems as if you want Israel to reclaim the land from the Nile to the Euphrates. Which to any sane indiviual, would be dispicable.



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by backinblack
 


The Arabs have tried and failed 5 times.......
so unless you know something I don't know?
edit on 27-5-2011 by bluemirage5 because: (no reason given)


Yeah, that was many moons ago and often Israel attacked first destroying their arsenal..
Israel are alienating themselves more every day..
It will only take one decent force to join the fight and Israel is in serious trouble..

IMO the time of choice is near..
Israel can negotiate in good faith for peace or perish...



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 12:58 AM
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So......would you agree the USA should revert back to their 1845 borders?

Yes I do think Israel should revert back to their biblical borders and I'm the only one with b@lls enough to suggest that and probably the only one whose not afraid to say it.



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 12:59 AM
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the ship was clearly marked and was outside Egyptian waters.


So you agree. The USS liberty was clearly marked with the U.S flag and was assualted by the Israeli's. If that was a typo then yes you do need to provide proof. They have provided proof. They have the sworn testimony of crew members, where as you have a few statements.

First of all why would I need to provide proof that America killed Osama Bin Laden on May 1st
a) I live in Australia
b) I don't believe the official story
c) It is completely irrelevant to this debate

Nice attempt to divert the argument. You still have to show me proof the ship was not clearly marked with the U.S flag.



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 12:59 AM
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The only decent force in the whole Middle East is Israel and any other nation outside the Middle East will never dare try because they know what their fate would be.



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by SpeachM1litant
 


So......would you agree the USA should revert back to their 1845 borders?

Yes I do think Israel should revert back to their biblical borders and I'm the only one with b@lls enough to suggest that and probably the only one whose not afraid to say it.


Nah mate, there are many fools like you who believe all the BS written in books by men with agendas..
But do you go by everything written in that book?
Or just the bits that suit you?
There's some pretty scary stuff ya know..



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by backinblack
 


The only decent force in the whole Middle East is Israel and any other nation outside the Middle East will never dare try because they know what their fate would be.


You're delusional mate..
Israel is a very small target..
Really not that much area to take out..

Israel keep pushing people to attack them and it WILL happen...

It's almost like people like you are pushing for it..
Maybe you believe the BS prophecies but even if true I doubt God would be pleased that the events were forced before their time for an agenda..



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 01:05 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by SpeachM1litant
 


So......would you agree the USA should revert back to their 1845 borders?

Yes I do think Israel should revert back to their biblical borders and I'm the only one with b@lls enough to suggest that and probably the only one whose not afraid to say it.


I have read very little about the Mexican-American war, however I would like to state a few things in regards to that aspect of your comment.
a) My opinions on Americans 1845 borders are irrelevant to this debate
b) International law and the U.N were not in effect nor established in 1845
c) If Mexico could find legit legal claims under international law to the area of the West coast anexxed by the U.S then yes I would support their claims.




Yes I do think Israel should revert back to their biblical borders and I'm the only one with b@lls enough to suggest that and probably the only one whose not afraid to say it.


With this comment you have clearly illustrated that you have an agenda and you do not wish for peace in the Middle East. You have just completely de-legitamized yourself.



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 01:05 AM
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No I do not agree the USS Liberty was marked and I do not agree the USS Liberty was outside Egyptian waters. And no, I do not believe the USS Liberty witness testimony.

I'll believe what I want and you believe what you want.

I feel sorry for any American that was killed on the USS Liberty that day, it should'nt had happened and the US Govt should never had put their naval crew in harms way they way they did and they alone are fully responsible for the lose of crew by their balant irresponsibility that STILL continues to this very day.



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 01:05 AM
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Then in these 2 cases we have more that we can agree on!
I don't buy the OBL story but have absolutely Zero intel, so I know nothing of that.
And you are right that the only decent force in the whole Middle East is Israel.
And that is thanks to US tech and weaponry, as soon as we pull that, then the rightful owners can retake their land.
Remember the USS Liberty.



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 01:06 AM
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How would you know how God thinks?

You don't!!!



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 01:07 AM
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tell me what Israeli technology is so vital to the US military today????????



posted on May, 27 2011 @ 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by SpeachM1litant
 


No I do not agree the USS Liberty was marked and I do not agree the USS Liberty was outside Egyptian waters. And no, I do not believe the USS Liberty witness testimony.

I'll believe what I want and you believe what you want.

I feel sorry for any American that was killed on the USS Liberty that day, it should'nt had happened and the US Govt should never had put their naval crew in harms way they way they did and they alone are fully responsible for the lose of crew by their balant irresponsibility that STILL continues to this very day.


So let me get this straight. You will disregard the facts and evidence and believe only what you wish to believe. Honestly why do you bother debating on these forums? You are detremental to the Zionist cause as you reverbarate idiocy and warmonger.



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