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Thankfully only a tiny margin of Americans take in fiction as reality.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by grahag
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by userid1
3rd eye:
What other interpretation have you heard of this? That anyone can be POTUS? please no YOU give it up. Show me where the 14th says it clarifies who can be POTUS.
Precisely my point. It does NOT specify that parents must be US citizens, neither does Article II. YOU made the case that they MUST because that was YOUR interpretation of what the founding fathers *must* have meant. Unfortunately, the Constitution does NOT specify this, and while US Code IS more specific (if you'd JUST bother to read it), but it still doesn't help your case.
Please show me where I suggested that ANYONE could be POTUS? If you'll just re-read my comments - you'll *clearly* note that I said there are only two kinds of citizens - "naturalized" (can't be President) and Natural Born (can be President)
naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com...
So... You have to have NATURALIZED parents to be a natural born citizen? That means we all have to have immigrant parents that were naturalized in order to be natural born citizens!
While I know where you're going with that, the speech of one man on the floor of the house does not make law or define terms. In the end, if there is a dispute regarding the verbiage, then it'll be decided in court and it has been.
Where do you people come off with such inflammatory nonsense.
It is sick how people keep twisting around such an easy concept. The Pro obama crowd keep referring to the case of Wong Kim Ark as if it was intended to prove his eligibility to be POTUS. That is clearly explained in Leo Donofrio's blog. He is an attorney who has filed suit against Obama and that is why I am pointing to his material. Frankly I think you and a couple others here are just determined to do the support-Obama thing come what may, and use the stuff you've heard from the liberal blogs. I've heard it ad nauseum.
Originally posted by Antiquated1
reply to post by wcitizen
So to sum up your character in your own words -
You made a character judgment on Obama and decided he was not trustworthy. You feel he lied to you and lost credibility and is not to be trusted on many things.
You believe a complete stranger online that began with "Hi, I am a 20 year old female" just because you do.
Did I get that right?
Originally posted by grahag
reply to post by wcitizen
I don't think the point was about you, personally, but your judgment. I'm positive that I have some posts here which might contradict some things I say, but my general philosophy stays the same.
I'll play devil's advocate though and say that we don't have the big picture. Maybe we don't have information based on your relationship with the person in question and maybe she has given you reason to trust her outside of what we know.
The biggest problem with the argument though is that it undermines your credibility for your criteria of proof. Maybe you're just a sucker for a skirt? I know MY judgment has been affected numerous times because of that and I can hardly fault you for that, but you need to reconcile the difference between the burden of proof for Obama and then some girl who thinks she's being targeted by the Illuminati if you want people to take your arguments seriously.
Originally posted by lance_covel
For crying out loud, if anyone wishes to read this book that he so wishes to be in the public eye (even tho there ARE avenues to provide it freely) Just drop me a message, it can easily be obtained in PDF form from me or on the internet, but I'm sure he would rather everyone buy the book than to provide the American public with information that would proove Obamas illegitimacy to be the POTUS.
Read it, then tell us all on what page the valid, solid proof is on.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by Antiquated1
I'm going to assume that there is some evidence not in the book if it's going to be played out in the Supreme Court, otherwise it won't be permissable as evidence. Just a guess.
Kenya probed claim Obama born in Africa Internal intelligence reports indicate government investigation
Critics point out many reasons to be skeptical of the recorded telephone conversation, including the possibility something was lost in the translation and the fact that, through her interpreter, she later clarified that her famous grandson was born in Hawaii, not Kenya. Nevertheless, two members of the Obamas' Luo tribe who are fluent in the local Luo dialect, Swahili and English told WND that after carefully listening to the tape they believe she declared Barack Obama Jr. was born in Kenya and that she was present at the birth. The discussion of Sarah Obama's purported claim is found in reports by Kenya's National Security Intelligence Service, or NSIS, and official letters indicating the Kenyan government investigated the possibility that President Obama was born in Kenya.
An "interim report" by the NSIS issued in September 2008 "concludes that a birth certificate in the name of Barack Hussein Obama may have been issued" in Kenya "but to confirm this would require a further thorough joint investigation" by the NSIS and Kenya's Central Intelligence Department, or CID.
The report said that none of several investigations by various officers has been conclusive and that some leads require further investigation "because it appears some powerful forces as it were are hell bent in defeating this investigation."
WND Exclusive A QUESTION OF ELIGIBILITY Birth certificate book a New York Times best-seller! Also makes USA Today, Wall Street Journal, Publisher's Weekly lists
Once again, more good news that people are waking up and examining the facts and evidence for themselves -
Originally posted by bluemirage5
And to throw salt in the wounds of all Americans, especially the veterans and soldiers on Memorial Day.....Obama go places a wreath in the morning then off to golf for the remainder of the day. No other Western leader would ever be seen dead doing that! Bloody disrespectful if you tell me!!!
______beforeitsnews/story/676/499/Barack_Obamas_decision_to_play_golf_on_Memorial_Day_was_disrespectful_and_hardly_presidential.htmledit on 31-5-2011 by bluemirage5 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ShakaDoodle
reply to post by bluemirage5
Yes, it speaks volumes as to the depth of his sincerity and faithfulness to true American values and principles.
Originally posted by wcitizen
Wow, you really want to make a point about me personally, don't you.[/quopte]
I do not "want" anything about you. I have noticed a lot of posters on ATS feel that they have people respond to them because they think they hit a nerve, are super popular, or the envy of others just for existing. Sorry no.
Yes, I CHOOSE who I trust and who I don't. Not you, ME, I MAKE MY OWN INFORMED CHOICES.
If you don't like it, tough.
Originally posted by ShakaDoodle
It debuts today on the Times nonfiction list at No. 6 – joining virtually all the other top bestseller lists this week, including USA Today, the Wall Street Journal and Publisher's Weekly.
Source: www.wnd.com...