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Corsi To File Criminal Charges Against White House Over Obama Birth Certificate

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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 02:40 PM
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So not only is Obama a Kenyan-born illegal alien, our judges are in on the conspiracy?

Can't argue with that.....I guess. I really don't know what to say.




posted on May, 25 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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No I don't. Actually "I" do, but the consequences would be dire and the status quo would be threatened. So I don't think that most judges would see it that way. Besides, it's kind of a screwed if you do damned if you don't. If they hear the case and it proves fruitless, then they will be accused of wasting taxpayer resources and time.

I don't know if there is merit to the being born elsewhere, I postulate that he is not a natural born citizen due to his allegiance to another country because his father was not a citizen. I'm not talking about his father being born in a foreign country, I'm talking about him not being ANY type of American citizen at the time of Obama's birth. I could care less if he is black and I'm soo tired of the racist card being played here. If John "whitey" White was born of an Brittish Father I would feel the exact same way and anyone that espouses the socialist ideology regardless of their birth is unfit to be the leader of our nation IMO. We are a FREE people, not a controlled class based society, although we are getting farther from our ideal instead of closer to right now.

Jaden



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by xyankee
 


I am open to the idea that Obama is not eligible. But I cannot allow political or personal hacks to sway my opinion through horrible evidence and desperation.

So far it looks as though he supplied the necessary people with the documentation to become president. It's up to the birthers to prove otherwise, but we usually get someone peddling a book deal or making ridiculous claims instead of presenting facts.

I want facts!



How can anyone, who has looked at the whole picture, not feel, that something is not right with his whole story! I can't help but say you must be blind, not comprehended it, or very gullible.


Taking actions based on feeling, politics or assumptions is how we get ourselves in a world of hurt. I refuse to be "blinded" by a movement that yet to produce anything...except book deals and a political movement based on Obama being "different" than us Americans. Thats not how it works.

edit on 24-5-2011 by sheepslayer247 because: add comment and quote


And yet you and many others have consistently ignored the very facts which Corsi helped to bring out into the public eye when he released his first book, The Obamanation, when we found out the connections with Bill Ayers, the unrepentent domestic terrorist Weatherman Underground, who also raised the child of another Weatherman couple charged and in jail for bombings and homicide. Details about the family's relationship with known communist Frank Marshall Davis(referred to by Barry in his own book as "Frank") also came out through Corsi's first book. By the way, I wonder if ATS has ever debunked those pics of Stanley Ann naked in heels which surfaced a couple years ago, which some believe were taken by FMD.
Some people just do not want to see these inonvenient truths and continue to promote allowing this fraud to be perpetrated on the American people in the name of social justice, because a large number of people are already primed through successive generations to accept, and even to yearn for the Socialist Utopia that Barry is bringing head on through various forms of legislation, and through the czars.
Why, oh why do so many people accept his appointment of these czars, such as John Holdren, who wrote a book espousing such things as mass sterilization of people by medicating the water with sterilants. He strongly promotes the de-population agenda so many here say they oppose, and yet still apparently support the very person who is enabling it.
Or maybe you Barry supporters do support forced sterilization. Kinda makes one wonder what we have come to.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by MiloNickels
I, for one, have no desire to repeat lies. I don't have evidence of any sort, and that is the problem. I have questions that require evidence to adequately answer. The ONE AND ONLY way to answer my questions about Obama's birth certificate is to turn over the paper-and-ink, original copy, for forensic document analysis.

Then, even if his birth certificate is legitimate, I want to know:
- was he a citizen of indonesia.

How can that question be answered to your satisfaction?


- how he can consider himself to be naturally born when his own cosigned resolution says that the subjects PARENTS (plural) must be american citizens.

Because you are repeating a lie. That resolution stated that since McCain was born to two Americans, then McCain can forgo all the other nonsense. McCain is not Obama. Obama never signed a resolution having to do with anyone other than McCain as far as NBC status goes. Have you read and understood the resolution for yourself? Perhaps someone steered you wrong?

- why does he have (and use) multiple social security numbers.

Unless someone can prove he ever has, you are just repeating another lie. I believe there is a reason even Orly backed off this but if you can prove it ever happened, I can get you an answer. Deal?

- why he won't release his college records.

Why should he? How would what grades he got as a sophomore help you determine where he was born?

- why he surrendered his law license (thereby wasting a harvard law education)...

Because it makes no sense to pay the fees involved if you are not practicing law because you are busy being a senator or president. What does that have to do with his NBC status?


His place of birth is only one (of many) issues that potentially disqualifies him from office or may even land his ass in prison.


You must be saving those issues for a quality post.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 02:48 PM
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That is just deflection and obfuscation. The implication of the resolution is that both the parents must be American citizens at the time of birth, which Barrys Dad was not, no matter where Barry was born.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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That is just deflection and obfuscation. The implication of the resolution is that both the parents must be American citizens at the time of birth, which Barrys Dad was not, no matter where Barry was born.


No, it is the truth. Please show me the resolution in full and explain how you find that implication.

You do know it was a non-binding resolution right? From the same people that "resolved" that Hawaii is Obama's birthplace. Let me guess, what they actually do and say does not matter, just what you think it really meant.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by ShakaDoodle
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Hi TheImmaculateD1 - was wondering when you'd show up.
I think Mr. Corsi is having a scanner expert file a criminal charge with the FBI
and it will be handled from there.


Shaka,

You really think I was going to let this one get away really?



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by roadtoad
The damn thing doesn't even have a raised seal on it.
When, in another thread, I pointed out to roadtoad that the birth certificate does in fact have a seal, he responded to those facts with “You lie!”

Birthers make grandiose statements about the truth and the facts, but the only information they are interested in is if it confirms Barack Obama can’t be the President of the United States.

Since all non-fictional evidence points to Obama being born in Hawaii in 1961, birthers will continue this nonsense until he’s out of office.

What else are they going to do? They can’t and will never admit what they believe is utter BS. They have emotionally involved too much on this delusion.



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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:05 PM
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The further off topic you go, the better your argument gets. Obama must have been born in Kenya because you think FMD took nude pictures of Obama's mom. Keep up the good work. Have some stars on me.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by arriana
I don’t get the whole birther thing because of one simple piece of logic.

He is one of the most powerful men in the world, possibly put in his position by even more powerful men than him. With all the resources available, why oh why would he produce an obvious fake BC? Seriously, how does that make any sense?


Simple. The deception that put Obama into the White House is being deliberately exposed by those MORE powerful men. All part of the plan, you see, to create social and political chaos .......
2nd line



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:09 PM
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The Vault Copy does not require a seal as it sits on the front cover.

The inability to hit back on facts and to instantly hurl attacks and insults means this groups platform is so minute and so fragile and is meant to keep the entire GOP distracted so that we all cannot come together.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by wcitizen
It seems to me that most of the posters on this thread have not even watched the video, let alone read the book.

How can anyone claim there is 'no verifiable evidence' - when this guy has put all his evidence in the book and it can all be verified by anyone who wants to take the trouble to do so.

To say you don't find his evidence convincing is one thing, to say it's not verifiable is totally another, and blatantly untrue.







Some just don't want to read the facts even though they know something's wrong. Either blind followers, very gullible, or have an agenda.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by grahag

Originally posted by xyankee
When this is all said and done and he is finally cornered. There are going to be an awful lot of people,and media, That are going to look real, real, foolish! If you believe it or not, you should keep an open mind and allow others to question without the name calling or labels!

How can anyone, who has looked at the whole picture, not feel, that something is not right with his whole story! I can't help but say you must be blind, not comprehended it, or very gullible.


Or maybe they don't see what you do because you're reading too much into it? For one, I'll apologize to all the people I called crazy if something ever comes of the birther argument, but until then, you're all a bunch of loons that see the sky falling and I giggle with mischievous glee when someone gets derailed in their crusade...


Well Ya might want to get started with the "Im sorry'" have you been following what the latest is? Now there is a judge involved!



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir
This is a waste of time and resources, both that of this man and the courts. I am not sure if the courts have yet implemented it, doubt they have, but it would be wise to implement a law which says should you lose the court case that you brought before the courts you pay all the expenses.

How many other times has this been brought before a court? And how many times has it failed? Face it the facts are against his argument.


That isn't entirely true. This birther issue hasn't actually seen a courtroom yet. Every time someone files Obama's lawyers, upon which he has spent millions, have the case thrown out on a technicality know as "standing". What that means is that they are saying that the individual doesn't have the right to question the big O's legitimacy, that the only people that can do that are those in congress. So, since only congress can do it no one else has "standing" unless they can "prove" that they have been harmed in some way by Obama becoming president and that harm relates directly to whether or not he is a natural born citizen.

This is, of course, an impossible situation. The reason no one can show that they are harmed is because all of the stupid stuff Obama has done would be just as stupid whether or not he is a natural born citizen. So, since it would be just as bad if he is a NBC as if he isn't then you cannot be "harmed" by it and therefore have no "standing". So, it is a catch 22.

That, my friend, is all that has been to court to date.

Not one argument has been heard on the BC issue so it is FALSE to state that the courts have already ruled.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:41 PM
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Just out of curiosity, can you obamatons at least admit that:

1) the US Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land, requires a US President to be a Natural Born Citizen (not just a citizen)
2) that if there were a possibility that somehow the President were NOT a Natural Born Citizen then that would be a bad thing?

Forget about your lovefest with Obama or the "birther's" lovefest with Bush and hatred of Obama.

It all comes down to those simple questions. Once that is truthfully answered then let all the Corsi's and so forth have their day in court. It isn't like it is going to waste any money or time since Obama has already spent millions making sure the BC issue won't see a court. It would be much cheaper if he just pulled his army of lawyers off and let it go to court and let the judges decide. Then it would be over.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by aptness

How many other times has this been brought before a court? And how many times has it failed? Face it the facts are against his argument.

About 80 or more. Every single lawsuit has failed. But the birthers are too delusional and stupid to read and understand the reasons the courts dismiss their lawsuits.


Again, the "facts" of the case(s) has never been to court. Obama has had everything thrown out on a technicality.

It amazes me how people can scream about the fact that the judicial system is being manipulated by big lawyers and how unfair it is to the little guy, until it fits their agenda, then it is OK an the little guy is "stupid".

It is a technicality not a ruling. It all boils down to the judges are just plain scared and "standing" is an easy cop-out.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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You really think I was going to let this one get away really?


LOL - Well....no.
I would probably be disappointed if you did.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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common, do you really think that a blog or website compares to a publisher? If he was to do that no one would get the information. What would he do advertise his blog and expect to be taken seriously?



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:51 PM
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I dont think he is going to get very far but good luck to him



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by Antiquated1
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The further off topic you go, the better your argument gets. Obama must have been born in Kenya because you think FMD took nude pictures of Obama's mom. Keep up the good work. Have some stars on me.


Typical elitist response of an obamaton. No debate, just snide and flippant remarks.

Why are you all so afraid of this going to court? If it is proven he is absolutely a NBC then you can gloat and gloat and gloat. If he is shown not to be a NBC....well....things will be rather interesting at that point.



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