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Policing for Profit: Cops Stealing Cash from Citizens under War on Drugs Hoax

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posted on May, 24 2011 @ 02:34 PM
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Policing for Profit: Cops Stealing Cash from Citizens under War on Drugs Hoax


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Police departments in short of money are now using the excuse of the War against Drugs to seize innocent citizens money illegally , the Police are now more interested in finding money than they are interested in finding drugs , and they will keep all the money they put their hands on , they are fully taking advantage of the extended authority they have under the war on drugs umbrella ..
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posted on May, 24 2011 @ 02:34 PM
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Wow! This is not good. I thought cops were suppose to be looking after the safety of citizens. Instead, they are robbing citizens. How much crap are people going to take from law and order madness. Although not all law enforcement cops are bad, just some, when is enough enough. I mean officers are often giving the false sense of power to serve the government when they really serve the people.

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posted on May, 24 2011 @ 02:41 PM
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I don't know about anybody else but I have already seen this video and news regarding this happening in Tennessee. I do have a question. Does anyone know if this is limited to Tenn. or has it expanded to other states?



posted on May, 24 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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It has extended to any municipality with a police presence.

Sooner or later a citizen funded law enforcement scheme degrades to eating itself.

Fear and might cause it to grow larger and larger until it can no longer sustain itself so to make ends meet it needs to consumer more and more into the system by virtue of evermore laws and legalities and eventually blatant simple theft.

People have always denied this and they'll continue to deny it right up to the point that they get personally abused by this.

Soon enough you will either be one of them or one of their victims.

Then revolution happens.



posted on May, 24 2011 @ 02:50 PM
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I agree with your comment. However I meant in regards to stopping everyday citizens on highways and taking all their cash then letting them go. I haven't heard of this here. Of course there are confiscation laws in place concerning drug dealers and RICO laws which I don't necessarily agree with. I haven't heard of anyone discussing simply getting highway robbed by the police at least not yet in my community.



posted on May, 24 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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People do what is expected from them and follow the lead of those higher up the chain. The war on drugs is a fabricated war which suits only the minority and even on ATS you can't whisper your true thoughts. Mental isn't it?

Who benefits from the war on drugs, mostly politicians and organs of the state, certainly not the populace, but the MSM has failed us and to a huge extent so has this site.



posted on May, 24 2011 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by MIDNIGHTSUN

Wow! This is not good. I thought cops were suppose to be looking after the safety of citizens. Instead, they are robbing citizens.

www.setyoufreenews.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


No sorry, the only look out for themselves, their self intrests and their quota which is all kind of the same. It a job for kids that got picked on in highschool, a way to get revenge.

Not all are like this but I would say a good majority are. Their a a few good cops. Part of the problem is the system that lets good cops go bad but that's also a choice made by the cops.



posted on May, 24 2011 @ 03:06 PM
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You need to understand ballistics and body armor. Arm yourself appropriately to deal with ANY thief regardless of what costume they wear or what they wear beneath said costume. Mirrored sunglasses are not body armor BTW.



posted on May, 24 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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One thing that really caught my attention in the video (other than the plain robbing of citizens)...was how the police are nearly fighting eachother.

One squad blocks another one in, then has their own gang memebers come in a show of force. Then another cop pulls infront of another who was originally pulling over a vehicle and then the yelling and threats are yelled at eachother......Anyone else see something wrong with this?

They're supposedly here to protect and serve.....and now they're fighting eachother......great times



posted on May, 24 2011 @ 03:54 PM
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I just have to point out that the Institute for Justice, interviewed and mentioned by name in this video, is a group formed by none other than the supposedly evil, evil, Koch Bros.

Damn those evil, libertarian do-gooders for fighting the good fight.
I'm sure the evil "Tea Baggers" probably support the Institute for Justice and the Koch Bros. on this one, too!



posted on May, 24 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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This is really old news. ALL police departments factor seizure funds into their budgets they are also following the good corporate model of increasing revenue each fiscal period, so figure it out. Eventually ,given the seizure powers of RICO any and all cash found is "dirty" and confiscated. Hell they even market drug dogs using the increased seizure revenue they generate. Handy bit there is nearly all currency has drugs on it and can set of a dog for easy picking by the cop.
www.erowid.org... aine/coc aine_media3.shtml
Now if you lose your cash it becomes up to you it was procured legally not for them to prove you came by it dishonestly.It is a cash cow for LE and folks just going to buy a car have had their money taken and tied up for years. As budgets tighten the reaching will go further out and into more pockets than can be silenced or ignored
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posted on May, 24 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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Cops operate much more like local street gangs than they would like to admit with turf wars and posturing and targeted assaults and even flashing colors and sign.

They're little more than government sanctioned Bloods and Crips.

Punk ass Joey on the block thinks he's doing what's best for his neighborhood when he kicks in the teeth of Chico down the street for selling drugs on his corner.

That right there nullifies the "I really want to help" cops if there are even any of those left. Every good soldier believes what he's doing is right and policy is always there to assure him should his faith ever waver.

In that light there is no such thing as a good cop. Only cops who are convinced they are somehow "better" than worse cops.

The very existence of such an entity is an affront to a civil, spiritual and intellectual people.



posted on May, 24 2011 @ 08:15 PM
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Did you watch the video? This isn't about anything you discuss. It is about the police in Tennessee having basically the old fashion speed trap along highways. Instead of calling it speed traps its called drug traps. However the only thing getting trapped is the persons money. No tickets, no drugs just robbed citizens.



posted on May, 24 2011 @ 09:38 PM
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I have seen similar in Oregon as the one in the video. I do believe what I posted has everything to do with why they are getting away with this in Tennessee
this link shows how this has come about
www.independent.org...
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posted on May, 24 2011 @ 11:52 PM
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The nanny becomes a tyrant when her own self-interests outweigh the best interests of her charge. Prohibition becomes self-serving and creates more problems than it purports to solve yet it always claims the more high-ground.

What percentage of crime and violence in our communities are a direct result of this agenda? Whatever the number it has been on a constant increase and will not diminish until our policies change. That will not happen until the American Dream becomes a whining whimper. Civil unrest, civil disobedience, civil war, or public apathy, they are all brought on by things like this. Poor bleeding eagle. Good road-kill chili someday, perhaps.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 12:00 AM
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Whether you agree with that or not, it is still against the law to possess or sell drugs. The civil forfeiture laws allow the police department to seize large sums of money when they have probable cause to believe it is connected with the drug trade or other illegal activities. This includes things like cars and houses where you have probable cause to believe it was purchased with proceeds from illegal activity. How does it make sense for the police to uncover illegal activity and let the criminals keep the money from said illegal activity?

Now I agree that the seizures should only be made if a direct connection can be made at the time of the seizure. Meaning if you only have a large sum of cash and no drugs or other evidence of illegal activity, you do not have probable cause to seize the money. A person carrying a large sum of cash should not be considered suspicious in and of itself.

To be honest, have you ever carried an extremely large sum of cash, shrink wrapped, in the back of your 18 wheeler? Can a reasonable person consider this to be a little suspicious or out of the ordinary? When you look at the whole picture and take into consideration that the highway is a major drug trafficing route, I guess you could articulate your suspicion of why you think it is drug money.

The piece of "investigative journalism" was fabricated to make it appear all the police want is money. This is not true.

When the Sheriff said the officers could lose their job if they do not seize money, he meant the unit would be disbanded because it is paid for with seized money. The officers would most likely move back to another unit and not be fired outright.

When the officers were arguing on the side of the road, their reason for argument was not stated in the recording. To be honest they were probably arguing because they are competing to perform the job not trying to earn more money than one another.

The "investigative journalism" piece had a tone that made it extremely one sided and was intended to give you the perception that officers were just taking money off of people. Please, be reasonable and realize that the police are not pulling people over and saying "give me all your money." It is money that the officer has probable cause to believe comes from proceeds of drug trafficing.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 12:03 AM
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My old computer will not let me see videos, however I have been awar of this for a few years.

It is called Civil Asset Forfieture




"Civil asset forfeiture has allowed police to view all of America as some giant national K-Mart, where prices are not just lower, but non-existent — a sort of law enforcement 'pick-and-don't-pay.'" —U.S. Representative Henry Hyde,


Incredible as it sounds, civil asset forfeiture laws allow the government to seize property without charging anyone with a crime. .... the government was allowed to keep whatever property it seized without ever having to prove a case. Seized property was presumed guilty and could be forfeited based upon mere hearsay—even a tip supplied by by an informant who stood to gain up to 25% of the forfeited assets. Owners were forced into the untenable situation of trying to prove a negative—that something never happened, even though no proof of any illegal act had been offered at trial....

Eighty percent of property forfeited to the US during the previous decade was seized from owners who were never even charged with a crime! Over $7 billion has been forfeited to the federal government since 1985.....

Over 200 federal forfeiture laws are attached to non-drug related crimes. Even a false statement on a loan application can trigger forfeiture. Physicians are subject to forfeiture of their entire assets based on a clerical errors in medicare billing. The government even tried to forfeit a farmer's tractor for allegedly running over an endangered rat......

Innocent owners who are never charged with a crime still must prove their innocence in complex proceedings, where many cases are lost before even coming to trial. Most forfeiture cases are never contested, in part because contesting the proceedings can cost more than the value of what's been confiscated. "The average vehicle siezed is worth about $4,000," states FEAR president Brenda Grantland, Esq. "To defend a case, especially when you're out of state, they've pretty much made it cost prohibitive."

Under civil asset forfeiture laws, the simple possession of cash, with no drugs or other contraband, can be considered evidence of criminal activity.



Well I think you get the idea. The website Forfeiture Endangers American Rights (FEAR) has a wealth of information about the laws and battle to fight them.
edit on 25-5-2011 by crimvelvet because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 12:08 AM
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What the media is leaving out is the fact Law Enforcement does not need RS or PC to stop a semi that is registered as an interstate commerce vehicle. They are subject to federal regulation, including being stopped without violating any laws. Their cargos can be checked against the manifest, and law enforcement is allowed to break seals on semis to conduct an inspection.

The ability for police to use this on civilians (not commercial vehicles) falls back into the category of needing RS or PC to initiate a traffic stop. They can request consent to search your vehicle and you have a right to refuse. If you have something illegal in plain sight, it will be an exception to the 4th amendment.

Tractor trailers do NOT fall into the same category as regular people driving cars.

If a search is conducted and money is found, and the driver knows nothing about the money, or states its not his, it can be sezied. Depending on the agnecy, amount of money etc, the money either goes to the schol system, or back to the department who confiscated it (certain percentage, etc).

Anything in excess of 10k entering or leaving the US must be declared at customs.

Inside the US, the amount of money present that can trigger a drug investigation is dependant upon state law, case laws in those states, and the opinion of the PA.

No laws are being violated by law enforcement with regards to stopping and inspecting semis.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 12:13 AM
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Sounds to me like "gang warfare" within the "gang in blue".
Again,Peace officers,becoming like the very ones they should be arresting.
Sad....................



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 12:18 AM
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It is not the police that dictate policy though. And some on this site call for outright violence towards police officers. That is where most people who are posting here are wrong. You do not agree with the law so instead of dealing with the persons responsible for passing the laws non violently, you take it out on the ones that are bound by duty to enforce the law violently?

The country that you live in, Mexico, is now the drug violence capital of the entire world. This violence is the reason the police combat the drug problem with such voracity. Because politicians make the policy and pass the laws, the police have to enforce them by any means possible.

The drug cartels make billions of dollars a year off of the trade. Instead of simply selling the drugs, they then turn it around, buy weapons and kill anyone who stands in their way. This includes other cartel members, innocent people and police officers.

If tomorrow drugs were legalized, the police would no longer enforce drug laws. "Blank check" legalization is not the answer though. I would argue that legalization of SOME drugs with regluation of their trade is more in order. "Blank check" legalization would not stop the criminal elements from continuing to use the drug trade. It would have to be legitimized like the alcohol trade.



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