Today we start our revolution! Wish us good luck...

We need this Viking the riot police is nowhere

reply to post by Cythraul


Do NOT drink the kool aid... migrants arent the source of problems anywhere... CORRUPT AND GREEDY POLITICIANS ARE !!!!!!

DO NOT FALL FOR THEIR DIVIDE AND CONQUER TACTICS... they will use anyone to distract from themselves and their big scam on our expense...

reply to post by pitchdragon


You are doing great work, hope it will spread all across europe, and the world.

My thoughts are with you! Good luck!

first an formost thank you and thank you again for all the answers ... I am very happy and proud to take this path .

encore merci à vous tous.

we are trying to be organized, i will post some material.


I would like to put some things clear to some of you.

nobody will steal us this revolution with little sentences, we are not dreamers who spits on the system, a stupid young people with no idea who wants to destroy a society just for their own pleasure, spoiled children who knows nothing.

Why we complain ?you have Social Security, you have a holiday (for those who are lucky enough to work) ... you believe that life is up to social security and holidays, our movement is not enrolled in a sense to have more, but rather in system where everyone could have their place, just and grateful to all its citizens and its citizens, not just ask us to pay and close our mouths.

It condemns an entire system run by politicians who know nothing of our existence, a governement who makes believe that we have a great chance , yes we are aware that we have more advantage than a person living in an African country for example, but this system is it fair, I do not understand this attitude of thinking that is great chance to live like a machine and let others on side of the road, I'm sorry I did not have this mentality, individualism has his limits, you can live cloistered in you well decored appartement, watching TV playing games and eating your toxic food , and watch the world falling apart, war and pollution, inequality, we believe that it is not a chance for us.

Our intentions are peaceful manipulation is a weapon, nobody talks about us in the media, because it is a movement that grew up and scary, we are not a bunch of lazy, but Youth from all sides of every nationality there are young people who graduate and want to just have a normal life.

The current state of our political and economic system does not meet these priorities and it is multi-faceted an obstacle to human progress.

Democracy belongs to the people (demos = people, cracy = government), which means that each of us is part of the government. However, in Spain and France , the majority of politicians do not listen to us even more. Its functions should be to bring our voice to the institutions, facilitating the political participation of citizens through the channels of direct democracy for the benefit of many, and not that of wealth and to prosper at our expense, in following levels of economic forces and clinging to power through a bipartisan dictatorship represented by the letters irremovable PS and the UMP (with the FN as a foil).

If as a society we learn not to entrust our future to an abstract economic profitability where the majority does not enjoy its benefits, we can remove the abuses that we endure.
We need an ethical revolution. Rather than putting money before human beings, we must put our service. We are people, not objects. I am not the product of what I buy, so I bought it or who I bought it.
On behalf of all that is cited, I am outraged
I sincerely believe that I can change things.
I think I can help.
I know that together we can achieve.


and again thank you for you support we are one.

This is no revolution - what we are seeing just another left wing street movement that comes from the Left, not the people.

Talking about immigrants rights and supporting immigration is just what the capitalists wants - CHEAP LABOUR - and just what the Left want - CHEAP VOTES - it is not what the PEOPLE WANT !

The 'immigrants' in France are Islamist Colonists - they are not in France to integrate and merge into French society -they are supporting sharia law , the overthrow of the Republic, the end of the values of Liberty and democracy and the imposition of a theological fascist regime.

But hey - they are not white - and therefore they are beyond criticism by the left and the reactionary right want their votes - hence they are the most powerful group in society.

The people want Nationalism - not capitalist globalism and leftist internationalism.

There is no revolution of the 'revolutionaries' as they want to keep the system and the same elites in power.

They want their consumerism, their leftism, their apathy and cowardice.

Revolution - REAL REVOLUTION - is a war against society, it is not a joke or a chant of students indoctrinated in universities to parrot far left slogans like idiots.

You people want a revolution - here is the slogan the people need to chant ;

DEFAULT AND REVOLT !

In other words overthrow the left and right politicians and the political system and end the rule of the banks and bankers and default the debts to ensure the people do not live in poverty.

But hey you have already imposed your leftist stance on the revolution and thereby support the system.

There will be no revolution - the people are too stupid to realise what a revolution is, too lazy to fight for one and too corrupt and weak to live in a true revolutionary system,.

You love your slavery, hence you are mental slaves.

You love you toys and trinkets, hence you abase yourself before consumerism.

You love money and power, hence you abase yourself before the rich and powerful.

You are slaves as that is all you deserve.

GREEK REVOLT starts today in centre of athens at 18:00. Let's see where this will go.

if you really think revolution will happen youre crazy


2nd line just like every other post by people on ats

reply to post by leejohnbarnes


the revolt by force will not change the situation, how many times this method has been used and we are still at the same point, the politician with the times have learned to manage the revolution by violence, this time we must change our strategy.

I am truly curious though about what you are planning to install in the place of the current system ? I mean, I will be living under it too, so it effects me.

Since right now, everyones basic needs for survival are taken care of, I sure hope your system will continue that at least.

Coming from a totally different origin, I haven’t seen things the same way- here the french protest for things all the time (there is always some going on) and it works- they get what they demand almost always. It kind of seems like the public is running the show- but perhaps that is just the contrast that makes it seem that way.

But how is your new system proposing to ensure employment for all jeunes ?

Originally posted by Dynamitrios
Do NOT drink the kool aid... migrants arent the source of problems anywhere... CORRUPT AND GREEDY POLITICIANS ARE !!!!!

Did you even READ my post? Don't be so insulting, telling me not to drink the kool aid. I know the depths of this global conspiracy. Like I said, I DON'T BLAME IMMIGRANTS THEMSELVES, but I do blame immigration. And anyone who knows anything about the manner in which our liberties are being stolen knows that TPTB are using mass-immigration to DIVIDE AND CONQUER.

So no, don't fall for the divide and conquer tactics, but realise that mass-immigration IS a divide and conquer tactic.

Wake up buddy and don't just adopt the politically correct understanding of liberty and revolution.

reply to post by Dynamitrios

And if you're open-minded enough to let me explain to you why mass-immigration is one of TPTB's most favoured weapons against us, I'll gladly lay it out in detail. But chances are you'd find that truth a bit too uncomfortable.

And to re-iterate, no-one wants to persecute immigrants. Even here in England where, when the revolution happens it will be nationalistic in nature, we won't be going for well-meaning immigrants, we'll be going for the politicians who encouraged our country to be overwhelmed by them.

Originally posted by gentledissident

Originally posted by hawkiyeGET GOVERNMENT OUT OF IT!

Yes, the government's income should be through competition in food, housing, clothing, transportation, and other necessities. The government would have the means to coordinate production and distribution to high efficiency...

There is no way, nor reason to abolish the free market. Life is more than necessities.

The government could not coordinate its way out of a paper bag. They are what's stifling the free market.

Originally posted by pitchdragon
reply to post by leejohnbarnes

 

the revolt by force will not change the situation, how many times this method has been used and we are still at the same point, the politician with the times have learned to manage the revolution by violence, this time we must change our strategy.

The true revolution begins within the individual.

First you have to free yourself from your addictions and mental slavery - you have to reject leftism, capitalism, consumerism and the comfort that makes you as much an addict of the system as any herouin addict.

You have to stand for the values of the Republic - not left wing ideology and rubbish about immigrants rights or right wing rubbish about wanting cheap workers in France.

Any 'immigrant' can become French - but anyone who calls themself an Muslim or Islamist in France is not French, they are a colonist.

Regardless of race or religion anyone can be French if they embrace the values of the Republic - those that go to France and who want to impose sharia law, retain their ancestral identities and impose their way of life on French society are not French.

They are colonists and must be deported.

That also applies to the Zionists who dominate politics and the media in France - both the Islamists and the Zionists have to be dealt with as both undermine the Republic.

YOU ARE NOT FIGHTING FOR THE REPUBLIC.

You are fighting for the left and the capitalists and the colonists.

You are as much an enemy of the people and the republic as the bankers, the left and right wing politicians and the capitalists and the media.

You will merely replace banker capitalism with banker socialism.

DEFAULT AND REVOLT !

The ONLY revolution worth fighting for has two goals ;

To restore power to the French people and restore the values of the Republic.

To end the capitalist banker sysyem and the capitalist socialist system.

Dominic Strauus Kahn was a socialist who ran the International Monetary Fund.

A socialist who was in charge of capitalism.

Capitalism and socialism are the same thing - both are run by the same elite for the same elite.

You want a revolution - then fight for the Republic against the bankers, socialists, capitalists and colonists and to overthrow the system and put power back into the hands of the French people.

Thats the only revolution worth fighting for.

You do not need violence to do that - just committment.




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Originally posted by hawkiye

The government could not coordinate its way out of a paper bag. They are what's stifling the free market.

Again, I ask WHICH government are you refering to??? The french one, as per this thread, or another?
I'm sorry but it really sounds like you are in a different country and experiencing something different than the french do.

reply to post by NoHierarchy

You seem to believe that government is the only problem and that our markets represent freedom. What many right-wing Libertarians such as yourself fail to realize is that, regardless of the government, the economic system is inherently oppressive/tyrannical in and of itself. The markets, along with governments, represent a conjoined monster that tyrannizes both the masses of humanity and the ecosystems of the planet. Without government you still will not be free, please consider economic tyrannies more deeply:

The reason the markets are not free IS PRECISELY BECAUSE OF GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION. What you left wing Marxists fail to realize Is you cannot have a government controlled free market they are a contradiction in terms. The monstrosity you describe would not exist in a free market because people would be free to vote with thier wallets and feet and take thier business else where and businesses that did not provide a good product or service would go out of business without government protection or bailouts etc. Market regulation in the name of consumer protection is nothing more then protectionism for the politically connected big business.

reply to post by coquine


this is where our point of view diverges you think individually and we think globally ...you say for me and we say for us...we know that we are individual as a person but we have responsibility to a group, you continued to defend a system but one you could lose everything nobody is protected and you will not even have to say word.
this is it

I repeat we want a fairer society
the equilibrium of the balance
you wonder what is the new solution as a challenge, then I suggest that everything is already written you need only read between the lines.
if the world for you has resulted in to follow the path that others draw for you for there own benefits then it's ok. we want changed the system not break it we lead our destiny.

Originally posted by coquine

Originally posted by hawkiye

The government could not coordinate its way out of a paper bag. They are what's stifling the free market.

Again, I ask WHICH government are you refering to??? The french one, as per this thread, or another?
I'm sorry but it really sounds like you are in a different country and experiencing something different than the french do.

The only governments we have are puppets of the bankers and the New World Order.

Our politicians are puppets, they dance to the tune of their banker and globalist pay masters.

There is no democracy - only the New World Order and the corporate media that tells the idiot public who to vote for.

There is no France - there is only the New World Order.

There is no Republic - there is only the global market

You want a revolution - then first free yourself from your illusions and mental slavery.


Fight for France and the French people !

Fight for Liberty, Equality and Fraternity for all French people under the protection of the Republic !


Do not fight for socialism, capitalism , consumerism, immigrants rights and colonists.

Originally posted by coquine
reply to post by hawkiye

 

..... But I'm confused..... it sounds like you are not in France?? Am I mistaken? I mean the real estate crash and all that which didn't happen here....in France you would be living off your retirement now, going on cruises and such.
The idea of losing that retirement (90% of your salary at time of retirement) in a revolution would probably not make you hurry to join the younguns in destroying the system. Especially if they have no plan for a new system of government they want to install, they just plan on throwing out the present one and........?

edit on 25-5-2011 by coquine because: (no reason given)

No I am in the USA however don't worry France is not far behind you will have your crash too eventually. Those retirements you are talking about are being paid for by others so when they are out of work and all those pensions disappear then you will see the older folks in France up and arms too.

The youngins are misguided they want revolution for hand outs. I just want freedom and a level playing field to make a living as i see fit and keep the government out of my business and from stealing my substance!

I look forward to your updates! Keep us informed!

reply to post by leejohnbarnes

People should listen to this guy!

Popular youth conceptions of revolution are, and have been for decades, tainted with Marxist doctrine. I truly believe that Political Correctness is the moral dogma of the atheist generation. So when a so-called 'revolution' carries with it the preservation of mass-immigration and reckless welfare, things which originally came about AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE, then how can that revolution ever claim to be democratic or liberal?!

Another fake, Che Guevara style revolution by brainwashed youth - blind to the fact that their views are minority and are more similar to the existing establishment's than they care to acknowledge.