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Today we start our revolution! Wish us good luck...

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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 02:18 PM
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reply to post by timski
 


I'll try my best.

Worldwide blank votes in 2012. Behind a movement "Neither guide, nor follow"
Open-Source Politics based on social justice and travel-based education, and not from lodges/clubs/groups.
Close Monsanto, Bayer, Basf, and give our feeders back their prides and their terroir.
Declare that the common good is above corporations and rules them all, long enough to dissolve and bring them to justice.
Redistribute the Vatican and Switzerland's gold to clean up the Niger Delta.
Stop buying Coke, McDo, or any other crazy moral person.
Declare ALL debts infamous.
Open a school so you can close a prison.
A wiki-like index about social movements and a mycelium-like network of solidarity allowing people to do what they love for who they love. No slave paid jobs, no Industry, just anarcho-syndicalism. Ask Nature.
Make the Industry to recycle every piece of crap they made and still make.
Take over the UN and put Chomsky and Tarpley on top of a world constitution.
Take over the CIA and put Mumia Abu-Jamal in charge.
Take over the IMF and put Vandana Shiva in charge.
Take over the WTO and put José Bové in charge.
Take over the FED and put Ron Paul and Nader in charge.
Take over Wall Street and give it to Zach de la Rocha.
I could go on forever mate.
And I'm just one little tiny (curious) brain.
Peace



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 02:54 PM
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Goodluck and Godspeed!

Just remember, a good revolution starts in whispers behind closed doors, gains members in shadows, and waits until the right moment to make its momentum apparent.

Too much too soon will do nothing for your country or your cause. You will simply "disappear"

This has happened in every country, probably throughout every era. People who are considered dangerous to the establishment either "runaway" and go missing, or "commit suicide" before they have the chance to rally cry people into action.

They Live, We Sleep.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 02:58 PM
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Problem with revolutions - once won, people have no clue what will occupy the power vacuum. Better have a good outline of what you want to accomplish, and how you are going to meet these goals after you fight the good fight.

A lot of times through history, people have revolted and ended up with someone a lot worse then they started out with.



Originally posted by kellynap43
reply to post by Shinta
 


IF FRANCE EXISTS TODAY ITS BECAUSE OF ONE NATION THAT GAVE IT LIFE- USA USA USA
That is something you will never be able to deny! You can argue about opinions all day long, but this is a FACT! No arguing with facts.

Case in point World War I
Case in point World War II



So who helped the colonies fight the British? If it wasn't for France, the thirteen colonies would have never thrown off British rule.



Originally posted by Dbriefed

Originally posted by coquine

The revolutionary here (the OP) is not against the problems of immigration.

The present government and president have been attempting to deal with the problem of immigration (stopping illegal immigrants from entering, and even kicking them out of the country). This is why we voted this adminstration in.

The people who want to overthrow this administration are against that. The left wing socialists think it is very very wrong and we should welcome warmly all immigrants and provide them shelter (food, medical care, cable tv..) with or without legal papers.

Sounds like this is the wrong revolution. The OP wants fewer controls on immigration and more handouts? That's what caused our global catastrophe in the first place.

If what you say is correct, the OP is evangelizing more of the bad. It's a bad guy revolution.
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The youth of today have bought in the lies of the socialists....unfortunately there isn't any more money to freely spend on socialist programs.
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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:02 PM
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You truly are a baffoon. You do realize that you there are way more liberals and democrats then conservatives. Hate to give you a news FLASH but your in the majority. So take that blue pill. Im sure its prozac.

www.politicsdaily.com...



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by kellynap43
reply to post by gentledissident
 


You truly are a baffoon. You do realize that you there are way more liberals and democrats then conservatives.

I understand you reverting to an insult. I'm sure you're used to using those. How's that working out for you?

I never said that I'm a Liberal or a Democrat. I did mention that I am a Socialist.

If you're interested in what I think, this guy sums it up pretty well...
video.google.com...#
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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:23 PM
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Its like saying tan is beige. Like girl is woman. Like Superman is Super. Its the same thing! Obviously you havent studied one lick of history. That is why your a liberal/socialist. If you would study, you would understand that kind of political system doesnt work. Much like how water doesnt run up hill. Please, Please, Please, go revolt and show the world how lazy your people really are.

As far as insult. Sorry. I dont sugar coat. I dont hand out free money and lollie pops to make everything ok. I call it how it is. Its called facts and logic. Try it some time.
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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by kellynap43
reply to post by gentledissident
 


Its like saying tan is beige. Like girl is woman. Like Superman is Super. Its the same thing!

I'm sorry that you're unable to tell the difference.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:50 PM
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Im sorry you can't draw similarities. I wouldn't expect you too, for the simple fact that its impresive enough that you can type.

Take a look at every social country in the world. Go live in North Korea. See how you like it
Take a look at Cuba, see how you like there as well. Along with vietnam, china, etc.

www.google.com...://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt293/Riath/socialism_poster.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.politicalforum.com/curren t-events/186325-satellite-images-north-korea-prison-camps-find-200-000-living-slaves.html&usg=__lgegyJ1zAOieeYikzLBqZaScvDo=&h=320&w=400&sz=26&hl=en&s tart=94&zoom=1&tbnid=wuT6ovF6u_VzyM:&tbnh=121&tbnw=154&ei=iWvdTdCVF8PX0QGc5aDIDw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpictures%2Bof%2Bsocialism%2Bin%2Bnorth%2Bkorea%26u m%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1419%26bih%3D720%26tbm%3Disch0%2C2064&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=294&vpy=232&dur=500&hovh=201&hovw=251&tx=175&ty=121&sqi =2&page=4&ndsp=31&ved=1t:429,r:25,s:94&biw=1419&bih=720



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:54 PM
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Yes, more insults. I've already been through people showing me how "Socialism" doesn't work. I'm not sure why they point to these places that are claimed to be Socialist. The closest I've seen to my dream is Sweden. I think we can do better than that, though.
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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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Yep your right , showing up at the last second and shooting some cannon balls really helped. Where were you in the beginning the middle? I know in the end , the French were 5 miles off shore shooting cannons from the safety of their ships. How many casualties did the french carry during that war? So little that most history books dont bother mentioning it, if there were any. Get real.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 03:57 PM
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You think your the first generation that thinks that you can make socialism work?
Your think your generation is the first to think that you can improve it?
Give you a hint, you cant. Its a flawed system.

Cant argue with stupid. So Im not going to.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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Really, where does this "My country is better than your country" attitude come from? It's sad, but it does make me giggle a little.

BTW, I am a citizen of the planet Earth. Now, I'm pretty sure we can conquer those worthless Martians. They don't even know how to drive right.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by pitchdragon
I do not want immigration and you want to know why?
because if there is no immigration, it will mean that all these people are well in their country, they did not need to cross the seas to a hard life to come clean the # of the Europeans.

That's great to hear! I feel the same way and thanks for clarifying.

What many pro and anti immigration people have in common is that by extension we want what's best for the immigrants too, and we want to eradicate the reasons for mass-immigration moreso than we wish to persecute immigrants themselves.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by kellynap43
reply to post by MidnightTide
 


Yep your right , showing up at the last second and shooting some cannon balls really helped. Where were you in the beginning the middle? I know in the end , the French were 5 miles off shore shooting cannons from the safety of their ships. How many casualties did the french carry during that war? So little that most history books dont bother mentioning it, if there were any. Get real.



France did not need to fire a shot, the threat of the French in Europe prevented the British from sending tens of thousands of additional troops to the war. With additional troops, and the British navy - they would have held the coastal cities and just endured the guerrilla tactics of the Continental Army.



Originally posted by gentledissident
reply to post by kellynap43
 
Yes, more insults. I've already been through people showing me how "Socialism" doesn't work. I'm not sure why they point to these places that are claimed to be Socialist. The closest I've seen to my dream is Sweden. I think we can do better than that, though.
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Sorry, but socialism on a grand scale does not work. People MUST be held accountable for their actions, and that means some people are going to live a hard life.


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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by MidnightTide People MUST be held accountable for their actions, and that means some people are going to live a hard life.
What are you on about?



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by gentledissident

Originally posted by MidnightTide People MUST be held accountable for their actions, and that means some people are going to live a hard life.
What are you on about?


Looking at your posts, you seem to think that socialism actually can work. Just throwing out my two cents on the matter.

Socialism = free lunch.

(or perhaps I took things out of context and that part of my post is just a herp derp)
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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 05:08 PM
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Where have I said there will be no defined crime nor reform in my posts? Where is this stated as being a part of Socialism? How is it that you think individuals will just get handouts if they don't participate in the survival and comfort of the whole? I had already allowed for free trade. If people don't want to contribute, they have an honest alternative. In the end, it all depends on which "side" is more appealing. It's a sell, not a take over.
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posted on May, 25 2011 @ 05:57 PM
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MORE FLAGS PEOPLE!

I love your original post, it really put things into perspective for me. I feel revolutionary!~



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by kellynap43
reply to post by Ex_MislTech
 


You do realize those stones were made during the Cold War, when people thought end times were upon us. Guess what, nothing happened. And did you ever think, due to the setting in the world at that time, that maybe those who wrote 500,000 as a recommendation on how to live life after nuclear holocaust and war? A guide to remaining survivors? Stop smoking so much. Pick up a book and read. Put down the Xbox controller and take a walk from time to time. Your mind is starting to slip. Sorry
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1) You can't even read or maybe it is write, the number is 500 million.

2) These are Neo-druidic GAIA freaks.

3) Gore Vidal warned about this in his books, so did Quigley, so did HG Wells, so
did Samuel Zane Battens, and all before you were born.

4) The new living language mentioned is Esperanto, and Soros is a "native" speaker
of the language.

5) have read Holdren's book Eco Science ??? probably not you just like to insult ppl
and thus think your smart because you can insult ppl but have no facts.
Pull hard on your neck til you hear the popping noise.

6) Pianka's speech on how he wants 90% of the planet dead via a bio weapon ???

Seriously, I do not mind you wanting to embrace ignorance, just try and realize it
before you write something thinking your not ignorant of what is going on around you.



posted on May, 25 2011 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by kellynap43
reply to post by gentledissident
 


You truly are a baffoon. You do realize that you there are way more liberals and democrats then conservatives. Hate to give you a news FLASH but your in the majority. So take that blue pill. Im sure its prozac.

www.politicsdaily.com...


If you persist with the name calling the mods are going to start taking your posts down.

Also you might check out this new technology called spellcheck, maybe some 3rd grader
can show you how to use it...

Buffoon

If you just looking to troll with your brand new account knock yourself out and
they will go after your IP address if you keep it up under another account.



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