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reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 04:42 AM by radkrish
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Oops..how could you explain the Roswell crash as Russian spy plane? You mean Stanton Friedman is a liar too?



reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 09:42 AM by greyer
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Maybe a little gullible, but I have studied Bob and I think there are some gaps in the story but I believe him. Pastly because of the many witnessed sightings of UFOs in the area around the time. Clearly we have the technology whether it is alien or human. What makes me believe in the Roswell alien crash is that men who were key players and involved in the cover-up came out to the world in their old age and admitted the cover-up before they passed away, some of them said to have witnessed the bodies. These men were highly respectable men in the military and in those days honor was even more of a word with all the stuff going on from the war and everything. It would not be likely that they would create a hoax for the public on their deathbed, admitting they were sworn for life not to tell us from the military and saying they want us to know the truth.
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reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 09:49 AM by Chrisfishenstein
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There are people all the time claiming stuff that isn't true....You believe they are classified as the biggest liar ever?? "Change" that never happened....Followers who devoted their lives and all of their money to help assist Harold Camping to something he assured would happen...I think these are much more of a liar than someone who wants spotlight!! Think about it...and get out more yourself


reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 09:53 AM by timelike
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There are people all the time claiming stuff that isn't true....You believe they are classified as the biggest liar ever?? "Change" that never happened....Followers who devoted their lives and all of their money to help assist Harold Camping to something he assured would happen...I think these are much more of a liar than someone who wants spotlight!! Think about it...and get out more yourself


Oh yes, very convincing- as for the gullible idiots who followed Harold Camping I can only say it serves them right. Stupidity should be punished.


reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 09:55 AM by Chrisfishenstein
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That is my point....Don't believe for one second I don't believe this guy is a liar because he is....By no means am I saying that....I am just saying to be classified as that, I think you need a lot more like my previous examples, not just spotlight....But ruining people's lives in the process of a huge lie....You know what I mean??



reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 10:00 AM by timelike
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That is my point....Don't believe for one second I don't believe this guy is a liar because he is....By no means am I saying that....I am just saying to be classified as that, I think you need a lot more like my previous examples, not just spotlight....But ruining people's lives in the process of a huge lie....You know what I mean??


I agree with that point- but I do think he is also lying when it comes to working on alien spacecraft- not a single shred of proof or a plausible theory who these craft are supposed to work. Wanting to be the spot light and producing crap like this does a tremendous amount of harm to those people who wish to study the subject seriously. So yes, I think it can be just as damaging.


reply posted on 28-5-2011 @ 10:42 AM by SlightlyAbovePar
I want to believe, I really do. Mr. Lazar seems like a nice guy. He also appears to be very intelligent. The operative word is appears. Those much smarter than I, those with verifiable engineering backgrounds claim he sounds creditable but, in reality, is spewing science-sounding nonsense. Keep in mind, the lynchpin (as is so often the case with far-fetched stories) is something that can’t quantified, or proven exists.

Here are some things I do know: he can’t specify with certainty where he went to school, or what he studied or even what year he graduated. Here’s a clue: do any of you who’ve attended college not remember the exact year you graduated or the years you attended? Of course you do. Mr. Lazar doesn’t. Do you really think ‘they’ could simply erase his college school records? Class attendance? Year book entries? Social club memberships? How about the very memories of people Mr. Lazar has claimed played large roles in his academic career? He claims ‘they’ can, and did.

On the other hand, George Knapp – whom I have great respect for – believes a lot of Mr. Lazar’s story. I said a lot, not all. Mr. Knapp very clearly states Mr. Lazar’s educational records cannot be verified. He also goes on (totally paraphrasing here, these are by no means first hand or direct quotes) to say some parts of Mr. Lazar’s story do seem to check out.Seem to. Reference: the famous story where Mr. Lazar showed Mr. Knapp around some EG&G (?) non-secure, non-secret areas (not at area 51) and reported the employees sis, in fact, know and recognize Mr. Lazar. Wait, wait, wait………I didn’t say he showed Mr. Kapp around Area 51. He didn’t. Disclaimer: it’s been some time since I looked at the huge amount of written info on Mr. Lazar; it’s very possible some of the details I have mentioned are off by a small fraction. So, please allow for slight errors. However, the main thrust of what I am asserting is true as I know it.

What do I think? I think he had a low-level job at EG&G, was aware of area-51, never had a thing to do with the operations there, did a sub-par job and was about to get canned. So, he came out swinging with a total B.S. story he thought would bring pressure to bear on EG&G. I think he thought by “exposing” Area 51, he could somehow take the heat off of him. In fact, what he did was bring attention to the facility that has played a crucial role in U.S. security (think U2 spy plane), thereby diminishing the role Area 51 could/can continue to play. UFO’s at Area 51? Absolutely! They are called the U2, SR-71, A-12 & F-117…….among many others I’m sure. Why would he make such outlandish claims? The simple fact that he knew he could claim anything he wants: how could anyone prove or disprove anything he says central to the story? I don’t think he ever, ever expected the firestorm that erupted with his claims to be anything other than a local affair. When the story took on national prominence, he was trapped. If he backed away from his initial claims, he would forever be discredited as a serious individual, within science, or anywhere else where your word matters. Faced with exposing himself with the truth, or continuing the lie, I think what happened is obvious. IMO, it’s the very reason he (Lazar) despises talking about it. He knows it’s all BS and this many years into it, can’t possibly keep all the lies straight. If you think about it, the ones still carrying the water on his story aren’t Mr. Lazar.

The things we do know: what can be verified, what evidence has been presented (very, very little) what facts can be checked have been. It ain’t pretty for Mr. Lazar.

Bob Lazar's story & claims broken down in detail
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