Originally posted by beezzer
Have we just thrown Israel under the bus? I know there's been alot of talk recently about the 1967 border issue. And I know that there are many folks here that will gleefully let Israel sink or swim on its own.
But left on its own, Israel won't have the US support for negotiations.
I see more violence rather than less with statements like this.

Your thoughts and views are always welcome.

No we didn't throw Israel under the bus Israel threw itself under the bus by the way it treats it's neighbors. There will be no peace in the middle east because Israel thinks it should get it's way and screw everyone else. We can't cut Israel off fast enough.

it managed to defend itself okay, with the '67 borders. it's 200+ nukes pretty much guarantees that if they are at the brink of defeat, the aggressor nation would get nuked.

ats should start a poll on how americans feel that a foreign president calls and berates it's secretary of defense like a 5 year old child and gets their president to appear before israeli lobbyists the very next day to explain his actions.

then publicly embarrasses him moments after his speech at a photo op with the two of them seated on chairs and dismisses everything he just said in his speech to his face in front of the world, like he wasn't there.

how much more of this disrespect and humiliation are americans going to take. any other nation would have thrown their asses out of the country for treating their president and officials in that way, israel or no israel.

President Obama was clearly chosen because he united the black and white vote but he appears to have no say in the running of the USA. Its just like Mr Cameron, says one thing but does quite another..

I don't think Israel has much to worry about concerning her neighbours. The Arab States seem to be busily getting involved in democracy, improving their education, housing, medical care etc. These things can only make the area more settled. Part of getting these things means that they will have to trade to earn the money to pay for them so it may even mean barriers coming down.

I think its Israel that has problems. The people are not always informed of what is going on by the press so are not always aware of what their Goverment or the Zionist bankers have agreed.

Also its fine having a weaponry consisting of nukes and the latest depleted uranium weapons, but you can't risk using them because they will contaminate the soil and water. Israel exports a large amount of fresh produce and were she to use her weapons on a neighbour the land would inevitably become contaminated for thousands of years.

Somewhat uncomfortably I can. The Chinese have a great interest in Africa so they may manage to service some of their needs for minerals there but I hadn't realised it was Libya who supplied them with oil. They are remarkably quiet about the possible loss of supply.

Thank God Late Lounge Jazz FM is on and I shall quietly drift off to sleep and not think too deeply about this disconcerting scenario. You know its hard to imagine anyone saying boo to China.