Canadian Activists Vow to Arrest George W. Bush in October, page 5
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reply posted on 23-5-2011 @ 10:45 PM by aboutface
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International law has no place in the US and should be fought tooth and nail by the American Public.


From this statement it seems you think everyone is trying to impose some law INSIDE the US? If so, you have missed the point completely. International law is about how countries behave outside on the world stage.

The point of the OP has nothing to do with US law or US internal politics. It's about upholding Canadian law in Canada


reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 12:37 AM by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by macman
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Show me where I am defending him?



Perhaps I am mistaken. This is a thread about an activist group in Canada 'vowing' to arrest Bush because of his actions while a sitting POTUS in regard to Torture, as it relates to Canadian and international law. Bush defended these actions in defense of torture by saying the US was not accountable to international law. That, too, is the argument you are making against the notion that this 'arrest' could actually occur. Ergo, you are defending him. That's kinda what that means.

OR are you now saying you DON'T agree with Bush's stance on international law?


Um, maybe you are not understanding me.
I say go for it.
Will it happen? Do I really need to answer that??
But, please look to what other Governments (Including Canada's) are doing within this realm today.

Now, if you are implying that you want my stance on torture, then please start another thread.
Just because I think this is a waste of time and will not be successful does not, by default mean I am defending him.


No, as I said, because you are defending the very same position he is being criticized for in the OP link, you are defending him.

It's so disappointing when people are so disingenuous. I mean, you're denying something you just said. Just admit it. Its okay. You agree with Bush's stance on the US's use of Torture, as it relates to International law vs. the US's 'sovereignty'. You already said so several times. (although you did continue to strong-headedly and inaccurately maintain it was somehow a violation of the USA's domestic 'sovereignty'.)

It's a common argument made. You're in common company. It's too bad you guys have thrown Bush under the buss, but still cant let go of the ideals he represented.


reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 05:22 AM by arbitrarygeneraiist
reply to post by jude11



If George Bush should be arrested, then everybody who funded him and his activities deserve to be rounded up and arrested as well -- even the taxpayers for allowing him to be in office and conduct wars. So everyone, even Canadians who might have paid to help fund Bush's so-called war crimes deserve to be arrested and punished.

As the law states, ignorance isn't an excuse.


reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 09:57 AM by macman
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Um, no I understand what I typed and how I used it.
More tongue in cheek then anything.
If you look into my other posts, I have no problem with admitting I am wrong.
I am married, I know how to.




reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 10:03 AM by macman
Originally posted by aboutface
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International law has no place in the US and should be fought tooth and nail by the American Public.


From this statement it seems you think everyone is trying to impose some law INSIDE the US? If so, you have missed the point completely. International law is about how countries behave outside on the world stage.

The point of the OP has nothing to do with US law or US internal politics. It's about upholding Canadian law in Canada


That is just it. Because when a Sovereign country agrees to international law, as our documents are founded, we are then subject to those laws/agreements.
The Canadian law dictates Canadians, not US Citizens.
If a Canadian citizen where to violate a US based law, outside of both countries, then the US can't arrest. The law has to be violated either within the US or by a US citizen.


reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 10:06 AM by macman
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by macman
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post by incrediblelousminds



Show me where I am defending him?



Perhaps I am mistaken. This is a thread about an activist group in Canada 'vowing' to arrest Bush because of his actions while a sitting POTUS in regard to Torture, as it relates to Canadian and international law. Bush defended these actions in defense of torture by saying the US was not accountable to international law. That, too, is the argument you are making against the notion that this 'arrest' could actually occur. Ergo, you are defending him. That's kinda what that means.

OR are you now saying you DON'T agree with Bush's stance on international law?


Um, maybe you are not understanding me.
I say go for it.
Will it happen? Do I really need to answer that??
But, please look to what other Governments (Including Canada's) are doing within this realm today.

Now, if you are implying that you want my stance on torture, then please start another thread.
Just because I think this is a waste of time and will not be successful does not, by default mean I am defending him.


No, as I said, because you are defending the very same position he is being criticized for in the OP link, you are defending him.

It's so disappointing when people are so disingenuous. I mean, you're denying something you just said. Just admit it. Its okay. You agree with Bush's stance on the US's use of Torture, as it relates to International law vs. the US's 'sovereignty'. You already said so several times. (although you did continue to strong-headedly and inaccurately maintain it was somehow a violation of the USA's domestic 'sovereignty'.)

It's a common argument made. You're in common company. It's too bad you guys have thrown Bush under the buss, but still cant let go of the ideals he represented.


No, I am not defending him. Just because you say 1+1=3, does not make it so.

My stance on water boarding or torture is not the topic. It really has no play in this game.
If you want my stance, start a new thread or PM me.
The laws should be when in Rome, do as the Romans. US law should not be a driving force in a country outside the US and vice-verse.


reply posted on 24-5-2011 @ 03:23 PM by Swills
reply to post by jude11



I had no idea this guy existed. Thanks for posting this, I'm very interested in this, and very supportive of him. Arrest the Government
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