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Originally posted by bogomil
reply to post by laffoe
You wrote:
["Everything can be faked - but the heart sees it trough."]
This bhakti-approach (as the emotional religious/semi-religious path is called in asian contexts) is just as falsifiable as any other way of 'wrapping' any ideology/message/world-view.
It's usually also as exclusive and can be as elitist as any other wrapping-method, .....and it is per se based on the same primitive assumptions as all other self-appointed 'truth/reality' seeking models. The method is true, because it's true. The eternal theist circle-argumentation.
Personally I don't give a darn about how these often bizarre theist claims are wrapped. Pushing A 'god' or THE 'god' is all the same, independent of the sugar-coating. And that you push an elitist 'absolute' is beyond doubt.....
Quote: [" We need GOD and we already got him, we just have to realize... wake up"]
We?? An all-inclusive 'WE'? Speak for yourself, mate.
I don't need any 'god', abstract or specified. And unless I get a special dispensation from being included in your invasive semantics, I obviously also have 'got' this entity, whose existence is debatable; whether I believe in it or want it.
As to waking up...save your mind-manipulations. 'Waking up' can be quite a few things, and if used as a propagandistic pro-'god' slogan it's just as meaningless as any other theist clichée.
Quote: [" Again (repeating myself) Religion is about power and control, GOD is about love."]
This 'search-criterium' of yours is just as worthless as any other theist pseudo-methodology, be it inventing pseudo-rational 'explanations', using the bible as a self-confirming 'authority', twisted semantics or even scholastics. You've just pronounced YOUR heart, to be THE measure-tape.
Quote: ["I don´t need you to believe anything but what you find when you seek within yourself."]
You have no possible way to have any opinion whatsoever about what I'll find inside myself, ....if I already HAVE seeked within myself, .....what I in that case possibly have found .....or my general knowledge about the subject of 'seeking-inside-yourself- methodology' on a comparative basis.
Quote: ["This is not blah blah, I am sharing from my heart here in hope of reaching another heart"]
Why can't you people even SPEAK in a rational way. It doesn't make missioning more digestible or acceptable, because you call it 'sharing'.
Quote: ["(just one reached will make my day)"]
Which for me only demonstrates the obsessional missionary drive many theists suffer from. What about letting people finding their own way, instead of throwing your 'answers' at them.
Quote: ["sorry if you feel that way."]
Why? Because I interfere with your preaching, or because only your doctrines can make people happy, wise, holy or whatever?
Originally posted by badw0lf
Is there like a secret club or society where you guys all sit around a giant round table, wearing robes and resting your hands at arms length on delicately carved wooden staffs that symbolize rank within your bretheren, who sit down and make this stuff up? See who can some up with the best one?
I mean you all have different names, but every time I read one of these posts, I see that little grey man carrying the "THE END IS NIGH" sign up and down the town mall, claiming he is christ and the sinners must repent.
Is there? Can I join it?
Originally posted by liejunkie01
I just do not know what to say.
I just erased the rest of my comment. Have a nice day.
Religous do gooders.
Originally posted by grindhouzer
reply to post by laffoe
Perfect Candidate..
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b5919d859cd3.gif[/atsimg]
Youve been FALCON KICKED by the best my friend.edit on 23-5-2011 by grindhouzer because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by liejunkie01
Originally posted by grindhouzer
reply to post by laffoe
Perfect Candidate..
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b5919d859cd3.gif[/atsimg]
Star for you.
I read your thread.
Originally posted by badw0lf
Originally posted by laffoe
reply to post by badw0lf
No secret club lol
Only honesty speaking truth from the heart
My point is
Forgive yourself
Don´t buy into all that sheiz from those fake Messias - you´ll know when it´s real
Rapture might be faked - Crapture - but connected to your heart you´ll see it trough easily
God is real, he speaks trough us all
We forgot to listen, some came back
Choose to
Well I'll certainly be keeping cRapture as I do like that !
But, I am poor. I cannot afford to buy into sheiz from fake messais. I won't know when it's real because to me, god is the wind. The sun. The dog farts that drif on by after a good meal and the dog is content. It's the rain on a hot day, the sound of the night, the bliss of dawn.
To me, all of this randomness that created all life on earth, is god. And it's not intelligent, it's just equilibrium.
I listened. All I heard was humans talking bollocks..
Originally posted by bogomil
reply to post by laffoe
You wrote:
["God doesn´t need to play hide and seek with you, if God wanted He could freeze time, make us all stop in the moment and walk around talking with us all."]
Untill this paragraph in your OP, you use rather rational arguments against what you consider faulty. When you get to supporting your own positivist claims, you're just as irrational, doctrinal and propagandistic as the majority of evangelists.
Quote: ["There are so much illusion and fakery on so many levels, so my advice to you is to seek a place of silence within your self."]
You don't need any specific 'god' to do this or to benefit from it. You don't even need religion per se. Religionism can even taint the experience of inner silence, because you risk to come back with what you hoped to find. Not with what's really there.
Quote: ["Don´t give me your blah blah (sorry if I´m rude)"]
So why do you give us YOUR blah blah?
Originally posted by bogomil
reply to post by laffoe
You wrote:
["Everything can be faked - but the heart sees it trough."]
This bhakti-approach (as the emotional religious/semi-religious path is called in asian contexts) is just as falsifiable as any other way of 'wrapping' any ideology/message/world-view.
It's usually also as exclusive and can be as elitist as any other wrapping-method, .....and it is per se based on the same primitive assumptions as all other self-appointed 'truth/reality' seeking models. The method is true, because it's true. The eternal theist circle-argumentation.
Personally I don't give a darn about how these often bizarre theist claims are wrapped. Pushing A 'god' or THE 'god' is all the same, independent of the sugar-coating. And that you push an elitist 'absolute' is beyond doubt.....
Quote: [" We need GOD and we already got him, we just have to realize... wake up"]
We?? An all-inclusive 'WE'? Speak for yourself, mate.
I don't need any 'god', abstract or specified. And unless I get a special dispensation from being included in your invasive semantics, I obviously also have 'got' this entity, whose existence is debatable; whether I believe in it or want it.
As to waking up...save your mind-manipulations. 'Waking up' can be quite a few things, and if used as a propagandistic pro-'god' slogan it's just as meaningless as any other theist clichée.
Quote: [" Again (repeating myself) Religion is about power and control, GOD is about love."]
This 'search-criterium' of yours is just as worthless as any other theist pseudo-methodology, be it inventing pseudo-rational 'explanations', using the bible as a self-confirming 'authority', twisted semantics or even scholastics. You've just pronounced YOUR heart, to be THE measure-tape.
Quote: ["I don´t need you to believe anything but what you find when you seek within yourself."]
You have no possible way to have any opinion whatsoever about what I'll find inside myself, ....if I already HAVE seeked within myself, .....what I in that case possibly have found .....or my general knowledge about the subject of 'seeking-inside-yourself- methodology' on a comparative basis.
Quote: ["This is not blah blah, I am sharing from my heart here in hope of reaching another heart"]
Why can't you people even SPEAK in a rational way. It doesn't make missioning more digestible or acceptable, because you call it 'sharing'.
Quote: ["(just one reached will make my day)"]
Which for me only demonstrates the obsessional missionary drive many theists suffer from. What about letting people finding their own way, instead of throwing your 'answers' at them.
Quote: ["sorry if you feel that way."]
Why? Because I interfere with your preaching, or because only your doctrines can make people happy, wise, holy or whatever?
Originally posted by badw0lf
Originally posted by laffoe
reply to post by badw0lf
Thanks for sharing your opinion
Very poetic
Feel free to use cRapture (you invented the big R in it )
.
We´re a Family and we want you realize that you were always part of it
If we didn´t knew that, why bother coming here and get a beating lol
Always be welcome here
Lol, I hug your concept, but distance myself from the position.
I like your thoughts tho.