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Originally posted by Hawking
You're using Christian religion, science and technology to come up with a broad view of who we are and what we're capable of becoming.
Kudos to you OP, we need more open-minded thought like this. Thank you for not going the route of "The Bible says this, it's all accurate" or "Science says this, the Bible is wrong."
Our reality is much more complex than binary black-and-white thought processes
Originally posted by AMANNAMEDQUEST
I enjoyed the reading, thank you. My immediate thought after reading the first reply was of what I have read of druidic, secret schools, and romanticized versions of King Arthur. Science goes until it hits a wall, that wall takes on the spiritual and metaphysical. Same with religion, it goes until it hits a wall, this case being science. Both sides afraid to pass the boundary. That or it is corrupted.
But we can still give thanks there are those who are not afraid to delve in the middle.
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
The question is this: What does it take for our information to be saved and expressed forward into another sense vehicle?
Originally posted by NorEaster
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
The question is this: What does it take for our information to be saved and expressed forward into another sense vehicle?
The answer is this: When the human brain takes residual information (memory) and applies it to the incoming data stream (ears, eyes, nose, mouth, touch) to configure survival responses to what the corporeal whole is presented with, those information configurations are integral to the entire event trajectory of ongoing survival for the brain and the body that it serves. Due to this, that information that emerges is fully dynamic - not residual - in physical nature. It is a literal hybrid of event and information, and in the case of the human being, it's self aware and contemplative (due to the sophistication of the human brain itself).
That information is what you are. You are that gathering of dynamic information bursts - collecting like cells to create the eternal being that you'll emerge as when the corporeal generation system has had its run. There isn't another sense vehicle. This earth-bound body and brain is your 2nd stage of physical gestation, and it brings more and more of the real you into physical existence with each moment that it chugs along. Once this phase of development ends, you'll be fully born as what the human being actually is - an eternal informational being. You are literally crafting your own eternal self as you sit there and think, react, emote, ruminate, and dismiss all this stuff as hogwash. We notice this external emergence as it happens and we've invented concepts like the soul, and the spirit, and bits of God, trying out physical existence, but it's information that's transcended the limitations of both the event and fact-centric residual information to become the ultimate in naturally emergent physical existence.edit on 5/22/2011 by NorEaster because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by rwfresh
reply to post by SuperiorEd
The experience is infinite like God. The experience is God. You are God experiencing yourself.
Love your enemy.. Or better yet, Love love. Nothing else is possible in Reality. This non-reality of experience is often called an illusion. It is more like a delusion.
Nothing is happening here in time that has any effect on Eternity. The second coming is the whisper in your ear when everyone and everything is told to wake up because time has come to an end. The end of Time is just that. And when time ends nothing will exist but God. But then.. even in time nothing exists but God. It is for the sake of drama that we as one create this powerful delusion and all the stories of souls progression and learning are told. The outcome from a perspective as a god cell in time will be the same. Illusion gone, nothing but one Love, God, Reality, Truth. End of time.
Try as you might, with ego or delusion to carry non-Reality forward or free mankind with truth stories.. It is all drama because Reality is and always will be. It is eternity without time. It is an eternal now. And the second coming is the last unless there is a new beginning. But there is no script for that yet written.Maybe we are tired of the drama..
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
How do you see us in the future when we inherit the Kingdom of God? From my view, the Bible is ripe with the reward that comes as we transition. We return to God as autonomous and free to create in the universe. This reminds me of this from the Hebrew Midrash Tanhum:
“Future bliss can neither be imagined, explained, nor described. We know nothing of its nature, form, greatness, or beauty, its quantity or quality. This much one should know, the phrase, "the world to come," does not imply that it is a world yet to be called into existence; it exists already, but the phrase is employed to describe the life into which those who are in the present stage of existence will be transposed when they throw off this mortal coil.”
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Originally posted by rwfresh
reply to post by SuperiorEd
The experience is infinite like God. The experience is God. You are God experiencing yourself.
Love your enemy.. Or better yet, Love love. Nothing else is possible in Reality. This non-reality of experience is often called an illusion. It is more like a delusion.
Nothing is happening here in time that has any effect on Eternity. The second coming is the whisper in your ear when everyone and everything is told to wake up because time has come to an end. The end of Time is just that. And when time ends nothing will exist but God. But then.. even in time nothing exists but God. It is for the sake of drama that we as one create this powerful delusion and all the stories of souls progression and learning are told. The outcome from a perspective as a god cell in time will be the same. Illusion gone, nothing but one Love, God, Reality, Truth. End of time.
Try as you might, with ego or delusion to carry non-Reality forward or free mankind with truth stories.. It is all drama because Reality is and always will be. It is eternity without time. It is an eternal now. And the second coming is the last unless there is a new beginning. But there is no script for that yet written.Maybe we are tired of the drama..edit on 22-5-2011 by SuperiorEd because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by refresh
All past and future are delusions. Past and future only 'exist' in the human head/mind. Time only 'exists' because we have a thought that says there is tomorrow or yesterday, nobody has ever seen either of these 'things'.
Every 'thing' that 'exists' is only ever a thought, an idea. Each and every thought arises presently, now. Does thought exist? Can thought be trusted?
Thoughts are our only problem. The thoughts and beliefs about the world are what shape our world.
Every time we have the thought tomorrow we believe in time, we have not checked to see if it is possible to leave now.
You can stop time,( or your belief in time) when you realize it is always now. And when you do, you will see that the drama does stop, you see that it is you and this moment combined that makes this existence.
If we stop believing in time then there is no room for drama. This happens, this happens, this happens. Only thought can make a story out of it. What will the story be based upon?
When our minds go to a future event, it wants to make us safe, it tries to protect us from an imagined threat. I read somewhere that 90% of thought is negative and repetitive. The protective mind can only work with the already perceived 'past', and with that content it repeats into the 'future'. The mind downloads fear from the 'past' (guilt and shame) and fear from the future (dread) straight into the body which is here now. The body reacts to every thought as though it is real, the body doesn't know it is not really happening. The body is a machine that responds to the thoughts/mind.
The mind lives in the 'realm of what's not happening', with the star of the show as you.
To be free of the drama (fears) stay here and now and be in the 'realm of what is happening'.
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Originally posted by SuperiorEd
Amazing insight. This reminds me of the key verse that fits your comment:
Matthew 18:18
"I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
I only disagree with your part about us inventing the truth that is revealed to us. There is far too great a purpose at work for anything to be random or unintended. There are no mistakes or errors in the message. Untruth only points back to truth. Break a law and it breaks you right back. The only free will you have is how you treat God and others. As you state, "...information is what you are." You are a product of your choices. Others are, to some degree, a product of your choices. Judgment comes from these interactions.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by refresh
I do not type these words in the hope that you be freed from the drama , writing occurs.
It likes to do this, share, to see, to create, to acknowledge. It is aliveness.
You are no one and i am no one. There is this.
This.
You may think there is a you and a me but that is the illusion/delusion.
I do not exist and neither do you.
All there is, is this.
And 'this' does itself, all at once where ever you go right now.
It is Being.
You are a tiny droplet of water in a massive ocean.
One ocean waving.
The unified field.
edit on 24-5-2011 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)