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How to prove to anyone that Water Fluoridation is Bad for us

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posted on May, 23 2011 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by dadgad
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Exactly!!

Put Vitamines inside if you want a positive effect. Spot on.

Oh, these deniers make me berserk, we humans are at such a low level, how can people become like this. Fluoride is a chemical toxic, jezus, how can that help? How! Just think for a second. You have been conned.


Yeah, I really can't even believe that someone would even TRY to defend this and make it sound like it's a good idea. It just goes to show you that the plan of using Fluoride to dumb down the nation is really working.


Maybe they will say some more......my sides aren't sore from laughing at their ignorance yet.




posted on May, 23 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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I rage in fury against all these numbskulls that rationalize and downplay this utter serious matter. Indeed the fluoride is working.

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posted on May, 23 2011 @ 08:04 PM
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So why isn't everyone dying at age 50 if fluoride is so dangerous?
Btw, I've looked at this whole thread. None of the "evidence" proves anythings, except you're all gullible. It's just random people saying stuff about fluoride. Quotes aren't evidence of anything.
Seriously, if what you're all saying is true, why are so many people living to be so old? Oh yeah, what you're saying isn't true.

I don't trust the government and the corporations that actually run it. But that doesn't mean I'm going to believe everything bad said about them. If they actually wanted to kill us all, they would do it in a heartbeat. And they don't need to drug the masses to get them to do stuff. Propaganda effects 80% of people(I get this statistic from Aldous Huxley, who learned that prior to fluoride being in the water), they don't need a drug to brainwash the masses. Heck I even have a link in my sig. to a website detailing how they're brainwashing American children. They don't need a drug to do this.

You fluoride people make all CTs look so dumb. You need to take a step back and realize that. You're doing more harm than good. Read the quote in my signature and take it to heart.

Fluoride is just a red-herring.
I call Alex Jones a fear-mongerer because he is just that and more. He doesn't increase awareness, he shifts awareness to topics that aren't important.
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posted on May, 23 2011 @ 08:07 PM
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Just think. If it would help? Why not vitamins? Besides too many people have come forward now. The evidence is legion. Everything you read is outdated and false.

It dumbs people down and be honest here. ARent people massively incredibly dumbed down? They are..



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 08:10 PM
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Actually is the life expectancy really going up in the US? I thought I read somewhere that it really isn't, I could be wrong, though.

Fluoride might not be as bad as some claim (in the amounts that a normal person may consume) but why even take the chance if you can avoid it?

I think the scariest claim about fluoride is it dumbs people down. I can believe it, there sure is a lot of dumb, gullible people in the US right now.

Does anyone honestly think people are getting smarter in this country?



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by dadgad
It dumbs people down and be honest here. ARent people massively incredibly dumbed down? They are..


Compared to what? The 1930s, when everyone was so clever? How are you determining this? The people around you?



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 08:17 PM
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I have to agree with you that people are extremely dumb nowadays, but remember correlation doesn't mean causation. There could be many reasons for a dumbing down.
Have you been in schools these days? Not only are the teachers bad, but kids just sit and play on their cellphones all day. I have a sister in high school. It sounds even worse than 5 years ago when I was there. The few kids that actually study get made fun. Then the kids get home and watch TV or play PS3 or Xbox all night, and listen to Bieber or that "Friday" song. That "Friday" song has actually been proven to cause a lowering of IQ in just one listen.
Fluoride is the least of our worries.

And the life expectancy went down by about 6 months or less. But it's been going up steadily for the past 60+ years before that.

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posted on May, 23 2011 @ 08:22 PM
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Dude, there is a massive conspiracy going on against humanity and the masses do not see this. It is like a big fat elephant in the room.

Yes people are much dumber, not all of them. Many are awakening at the same time. So its a strange scenario.



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 08:33 PM
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There's one thing I've noticed throughout this thread and that's a lot of you give Alex Jones Credit for this conspiracy, when in fact he's not who I heard this from. In fact, until I came to this forum I had no idea who AJ was. It was only recently that I watched a show about the Bohemian Grove from Brad Metlzer's Decoded that I realize what a contribution AJ did by video taping the Cremation of Care. Sick bastards our Elite.

Anyway, you can blame Jesse Ventura and the Howard Stern Show because that's how I found out, and I was like "no way, if that were true it would be well known" and this is what I found out so far. I'm pretty sure this whole conspiracy is older than Alex Jones.

And if you want proof, go back to my original post, go to all the sites, and check all the sources they list. Then come back and see if you can still call us fear mongering crazies

Bottom line, fluoride does NOT fight cavities and of ALL the things we can add to water ( see vitamins ) why the hell are they adding fluoride. Let me worry about my teeth.

They've already been giving us too much Fluoride as it is

Community Water Fluoridation: Questions and Answers


6. How is HHS developing new recommendations?

In September 2010, the Department of Health and Human Services convened a panel of scientists from the across the U.S. government to review new information related to fluoride intake and to develop new recommendations for community water fluoridation.

The scientists reviewed the best available information on: the prevalence and trends in dental caries, water intake in children in relation to outdoor air temperature, changes in the percentage of U.S. children and adults with dental fluorosis, and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) new assessments of cumulative sources of fluoride exposure and risks of children developing severe dental fluorosis.

This new information led HHS to propose changing the recommended level for community water systems to 0.7 milligrams per liter. The current recommended level is a range of 0.7 to 1.2 milligrams per liter. An announcement about the proposed change was published in the Federal Register. Public comment on the new proposed optimal fluoridation level is being sought and may be provided for 30 days. Comments will be considered by HHS in finalizing a new recommendation for community water fluoridation in the United States.


National Academy of Sciences on Fluoride in Drinking Water


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The 2006 NRC Report on Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Scientific Review of EPA’s Standards*

In 2006, the NRC stated in this report that in developing regulatory standards for high levels of fluoride in drinking water, three adverse health effects warranted consideration: severe enamel (dental) fluorosis from exposure to these high levels between birth and 8 years of age, risk of bone fractures, and severe forms of skeletal fluorosis (a rare condition in the United States) after lifetime exposure.

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posted on May, 23 2011 @ 08:40 PM
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Some interesting information here.
Though i havent read through the entire thread yet, a while ago, i found a very interesting video on flouride and reasons for the governments introducing it to our drinking supply.

The whole 'flouride is good for our dental health' is only half of the story... check out this video below and make up your own mind.




There are also some threads here on ATS about the flouride/pineal gland connection - how flouride is calcifying our pineal gland... a gland which should produce a naturally occurring drug '___'.
This might open up a can of worms for a few of you here...

EDIT: Sorry, not quite sure how to embed vids here. If someone could help out, that would be greatly appreciated.


THE FLOURIDE DECEPTION


Happy hunting folks...
edit on 23-5-2011 by brinbin because: Youtube vid problem...



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 08:42 PM
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Is it true that Viagra gives municipalities free money to buy Fluoride to put into their water?

fluoride makes people impotent so they have to buy Viagra...they make money and spin the whole process to generate $$$$$?

Sounds plausible to me.



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by dadgad
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Just think. If it would help? Why not vitamins? Besides too many people have come forward now. The evidence is legion. Everything you read is outdated and false.

It dumbs people down and be honest here. ARent people massively incredibly dumbed down? They are..


Obviously you don't need vitamin supplements, you get vitamins from your diet. One doesn't get fluoride from their diet, so they add it to the water. One doesn't usually get iodine from their diet, so they add it to the salt.

This is neither a conspiracy nor a hard concept to grasp.



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by Pervius
Is it true that Viagra gives municipalities free money to buy Fluoride to put into their water?

fluoride makes people impotent so they have to buy Viagra...they make money and spin the whole process to generate $$$$$?

Sounds plausible to me.

Sounds like bullocks to me, unless you have a source that will provide some independently verifiable facts.



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by Pervius
Is it true that Viagra gives municipalities free money to buy Fluoride to put into their water?

fluoride makes people impotent so they have to buy Viagra...they make money and spin the whole process to generate $$$$$?

Sounds plausible to me.


I have never heard this but then again, I'm learning, anything is possible.



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by dadgad
reply to post by Uncinus
 



Dude, there is a massive conspiracy going on against humanity and the masses do not see this. It is like a big fat elephant in the room.

Yes people are much dumber, not all of them. Many are awakening at the same time. So its a strange scenario.


There are many atrocities throughout history, there have also been many grand conspiracies (many led by religious order). But I am having trouble finding evidence of these kinds of things in this thread. Also, the idea that people are getting "dumber" is based on what?


Life is getting worse for us or getting better?


In the early 19th century poor families often had to share toilets and on Sunday mornings queues formed.

Given these horrid conditions it is not surprising that disease was common. Life expectancy in towns was low (significantly lower than in the countryside) and infant mortality was very high.

British towns and cities suffered outbreaks of cholera in 1831-32 and in 1848-49.
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posted on May, 23 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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World illiteracy rates: 1970-2010:



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posted on May, 23 2011 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by adeclerk

Originally posted by dadgad
reply to post by Ghost375
 


Just think. If it would help? Why not vitamins? Besides too many people have come forward now. The evidence is legion. Everything you read is outdated and false.

It dumbs people down and be honest here. ARent people massively incredibly dumbed down? They are..


Obviously you don't need vitamin supplements, you get vitamins from your diet. One doesn't get fluoride from their diet, so they add it to the water. One doesn't usually get iodine from their diet, so they add it to the salt.

This is neither a conspiracy nor a hard concept to grasp.


I've noticed a lot of people are prolly in need of vitamin more than they are in need of fluoride. I'm guessing most American diets lack proper vitamin, and I only have to look to Americas rising waist line to know they need more vitamins as well as exercise



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 09:00 PM
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edit on 23-5-2011 by Swills because: Yeah, I had a double post too, weird



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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I've noticed a lot of people are prolly in need of vitamin more than they are in need of fluoride. I'm guessing most American diets lack proper vitamin, and I only have to look to Americas rising waist line to know they need more vitamins as well as exercise.


I don't know about you but I still remember memorizing the food pyramid in school. Knowing how much of what to eat, how many times a day, as well as portion sizes.

For a grand conspiracy, they are doing a bad job at trying to teach people to eat right.

Of course, if they force fed you the proper food you ate, then that would be a violation of your rights...

People enjoy being lazy, and other people make money off of it. Eventually, someone has to take responsibility for their own life.



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 09:05 PM
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I just typed up a paragraph about how there are tons of other chemicals in toothpaste and how we don't know that the flouride is the danger when you swallow it, but then I went to the bathroom, checked out a tube, and to my surprise the only listed ingredient was sodium flouride.




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