Handicapped Man Picked Up From Wheelchair And SMASHED Into The Ground By D.C. Police., page 9


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reply posted on 23-5-2011 @ 09:23 AM by wisdomnotemotion
Michael Jackson had warned us countless times before...

They Don't Care About Us

Skin head, dead head
Everybody gone bad
Situation, aggravation
Everybody allegation
In the suite, on the news
Everybody dog food
Bang bang, shot dead
Everybody's gone mad

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Beat me, hate me
You can never break me
Will me, thrill me
You can never kill me
chew me, sue me
Everybody do me
Kick me, kike me
Don't you black or white me

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Tell me what has become of my life
I have a wife and two children who love me
I am the victim of police brutality, now
I'm tired of bein' the victim of hate
You're rapin' me of my pride
Oh, for God's sake
I look to heaven to fulfill its prophecy...
Set me free

Skin head, dead head
Everybody gone bad
trepidation, speculation
Everybody allegation
In the suite, on the news
Everybody dog food
Black male, black mail
Throw your brother in jail

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Tell me what has become of my rights
Am I invisible because you ignore me?
Your proclamation promised me free liberty, now
I'm tired of bein' the victim of shame
They're throwing me in a class with a bad name
I can't believe this is the land from which I came
You know I do really hate to say it
The government don't wanna see
But if Roosevelt was livin'
He wouldn't let this be, no, no

Skin head, dead head
Everybody gone bad
Situation, speculation
Everybody litigation
Beat me, bash me
You can never trash me
Hit me, kick me
You can never get me

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

Some things in life they just don't wanna see
But if Martin Luther was livin'
He wouldn't let this be

Skin head, dead head
Everybody gone bad
Situation, segregation
Everybody allegation
In the suite, on the news
Everybody dog food
Kick me, strike me
Don't you wrong or right me

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us

All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us


reply posted on 23-5-2011 @ 09:25 AM by yrwehere1
reply to post by imasecretspy
As I said, I'd like to know more about what was going on before the clip was taken before passing judgement on it. Unless you were there or more evidence is brought to light, thing that cn be said is that it appears that excessive force was used, but unless you were there, who knows for sure?



reply posted on 23-5-2011 @ 09:31 AM by Klose
Originally posted by Qwenn
Originally posted by Klose
I think it's a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to jump on the cops in this case. This video only cuts in when the action takes place. We don't know what happened before or what the guy SAID. Yeh he's in a wheelchair, but if he threatened an officer and inferred he had a gun or other weapon, the officers are 100% justified to throw him to the pavement.

.

Then if they thought he was armed, why did they not search him or the chair after they had slam-dunked him, because they KNEW he was no threat to them. They do these sort of things because people like you turn a blind eye and say " well he must have done something wrong ".


That's a good point, but in many cases it's best to err on the side of caution, esp when this is your daily grind. I've trained with police/FBI/CIA/military on a regular basis, and the primary concern is the safety of the officer, not the criminal. People have been known to carry HIV/Hep tainted needles, knives, guns, you name it. A lot of these guys are not people you want to 'wrestle around' with...IE lice infested, extremely dirty, etc.

With that said, the officer didn't need to to reap the guy's leg, that's a difficult breakfall to take even for a decent practitioner. Lots of other ways to make this take down happen without splitting the guys head. So yah, I think he prob needed to be taken down and cuffed, but there is a good chance they were too zealous. Might be an issue of not enough training or possibly frustration.
edit on 23-5-2011 by Klose because: (no reason given)


reply posted on 23-5-2011 @ 10:15 AM by Klose
Originally posted by dadgad
Stop rationalizing this situation, stop defending the officers, stop doing this.

There are numerous videos of the exact same scenario's popping up on the net like mushrooms.

All you people need to worry about is. How can we stop this police state in rising?
I am here living in the Netherlands and I feel there is little I can do. But you over there can make a difference. Just stop rationalizing and get that thought ''they won't turn against us'' out of your mind. They will and they already have. They no longer serve the people, they no longer serve the constitution. They now serve their Masters.



I understand your worry about the police state, but lets get real. It's not like they have meetings and inform these officers to go out and "abuse your power." These are guys who walk these streets daily, and prob have created some (somewhat) unjustified judgments and prejudices. They see a certain 'type' of people doing something on a regular basis and are quick to jump to conclusions. That's the reality of the situation. What I'm more worried about are police forces that have a direct tie to the real elites, similar to the Gustapo or Stasi. Most cops are totally regular guys, mostly good guys, with a few exceptions (as there are with any job).

If this bothers you try a visit to Singapore....undercover cops everywhere, corporal punishment, really 1984 style. That sort of thing is what I'm worried about, not a couple cops bashing a guy that likely was pushing the limits with the cops (if you spit on a bully he's apt to punch you in the face).


reply posted on 23-5-2011 @ 10:20 AM by restlessbrainsyndrome
reply to post by TheLoneArcher


We are too scared to do anything. Here in America, you can go to jail for interfering with police business. Plus you never know if one will freak out and shoot you (they carry guns here). And if you go to jail here, you can screw up your whole life. When we apply for jobs, there is a box to check if you have been convicted of a crime. Many employers will just pass you over if this is the case. Also, forget being able to get a concealed weapons permit, or volunteer at your kid's school.


reply posted on 23-5-2011 @ 11:06 AM by yrwehere1
reply to post by ahmonrarh
Thanks for posting the link to the article in the Washington Post. I hadn't seen that.

Now, let's forget about the guy in the wheelchair being slammed to the ground as I believe we all agree that it was excessive and uncalled for.

However, according to the article in the Washington Post, the man had two opportunities to remove himself from the situation before it escalated out of control:

1. When he was spotted with the open container he could have left as requested and

2. When he was told he was being issued a citation, he could have accepted it and used it for toilet paper when he got home.


reply posted on 23-5-2011 @ 11:32 AM by Tifozi
People need to stop being sentimental when judging this videos.

It's a fact that you don't know the thing's that happened before the video starts. Period.

It's a guy in a wheelchair, but since you know that in this world there are mothers who kill their infants, it's not that far stretched to think that maybe just because someone is in a wheelchair, doesn't make him a better person.

I'm not defending the cops, nor the guy in a wheelchair. For this sort of things we have courts, we have lawyers and all the other bunch. I support that things get viral to gain support, when the cause is rightful (the case of the guy in wheelchair in the UK, as a good example of that), but not just because someone got slammed to the floor.

It's not the end of the world, and it's not the end of life to anyone in this story. So get over it.

I love to see the "pacifists" and "rightful" people in here, slamming the police because of videos like these. Don't wanna burst your bubble, but being a pacifist isn't about hating the military and law enforcement. Being a pacifist means that you refuse violance, not order and not the professionals that sustain it.

Too many people use the flag of peace for actual agendas that have nothing to do with a peaceful coexistence with everyone around them. It's just an excuse to oppose any sort of authority. And it's quite sad, because when they need it, they will be the first to call the people who they dismiss as being a equal human being.

If people would care more about doing the right thing, instead of just opposing and trashing things, subjects and situations, the world would be a better place.
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