Handicapped Man Picked Up From Wheelchair And SMASHED Into The Ground By D.C. Police.

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posted on May, 23 2011 @ 11:52 AM
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Firefly_ , I feel the same way. I am truly afraid of interaction with Law Enforcement because they are hand-picked for low IQ's, aggressive personality traits, willingness to blindly follow instruction regardless of right or wrong and the horrific "Us against Them" mindset they accept in training.


There is no evidence that police are hand picked for low IQ, aggressive personality traits or willingness to blindly follow orders. In fact, most situations are dealt with through and officer's discretion and no orders are given by supervisors.



I am not a wealthy man, and I know all too well that I could easily become one of the thousands of falsely accused imprisoned population any day. The Innocence Project is a major eye-opener proving many men spend a portion of their life in the horror of prison and they are not guilty.


Even if the amount of innocent people convicted of a crime numbers in the thousands, this is not even 1% of the entire population of people convicted of crimes yearly in the United States. Although it is unfortunate if even one person is wrongly convicted of a crime, it is not necessarily the police department's fault that occurred.



I would rather face an encounter with a mugger, a thief robbing my home, a drugg dealer or user, a car thief, an out of control mental patient or a person spaced out on substance than have to tangle with Law Enforcement. There are many levels of mental illness involved when dealing with someone who wants to lord over others with a baton, tazer, handgun, hand-to-hand combat style training, restraints, mace, etcetera.


You have obviously never dealt with any of the types of people you have listed. If you had you would realize that there is a reason the police carry the weapons you listed. It is because SOME of the types of people you listed are extremely dangerous and will not hesitate to seriously injure or kill anyone who stands in their way.



Police do not have regular friends, they have Police friends.


Some police only have police friends. Some police have all kinds of friends. You can not claim to know what that ratio is among police officers.



Police have extraordinarily high divorce rates.


The population of the United States has a high divorce rate. This rate may be elevated in police officers due to the stresses of the job and the stresses on a family in that line of work.



Police & alcoholism are more the rule and not the exception.


Where is your study on alcoholism rates in police officers? Dont tell me, show me.



Police are fully willing to kill someone every time they strap on that big penis gun.


Yes, the police are willing to kill someone that is either trying to kill them or someone else everytime they strap on a gun. What would be the point in carrying it if you were not prepared to use it if needed?



Police lie in courtrooms, they lie to cover and protect other Police, worst of all they lie to themselves.


Yes, some police officers have lied on the stand and it will happen again in the future. This is a rare occurrance though and the officer should be dealt with harshly which should include criminal charges and termination of employment. Again, this is a rare occurrance. Criminals and defense attorneys have made it common practice to claim the police are lying when in fact it is they that are lying. A police officer's real weapon against crime is his or her integrity. Without his or her integrity, a police officer can not testify in court and is useless.
edit on 23-5-2011 by areyouserious2010 because: added quotes




posted on May, 23 2011 @ 11:54 AM
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In response to the video, I have to say it's quite an overreaction by the police force in the DC area. Aren't police supposed to help people and not just go around throwing their force about?



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 12:03 PM
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Functions of power attracts the exact people who should not have it. (most of the time)



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 12:03 PM
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Stop telling people not to disagree with you. If they disagree they have as much right to post it here as you do. If you disagree with them, post your argument while using logic and reason. Allow the reader to make up his or her own mind. If you are right, then people will read you post and say "yea this guy is right."

The problem with video on the internet is that it does not tell the full story. Video leaves out important facts that may lead an officer to take the action he or she did.

Another problem with video on the internet is that there are thousands of arrests and incidents where the police do everything correctly which is not captured on video. And if something good is captured on video, no one posts it because it is not exciting. This disparity makes basing your opinion of the police solely on internet video a little one-sided.

I do not think someone in the Netherlands can accurately comment on something in the United States that they have no experience of because they live in the NETHERLANDS.



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 12:07 PM
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If you look at the movie "Training Day" in a different light, it shows a corrupt cop attempting to corrupt a good cop. In the end, the good cop triumphs over the corrupt police with the help of the community that is oppressed by the corrupt cop.



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 12:42 PM
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I'm gonna have to be one of the odd balls here and state that I'm not seeing what any of you are seeing. Here is my take on the video: They stopped the guy in the wheelchair, (for what reason we obviously do not know) they went to arrest him...which to do so, they would both have to pick him up, obviously if he is in a wheel chair his legs do not work so well, I don't think it would take two officers to "throw" someone from their wheel chair. You can clearly see that an officer got on each side of the person to "help" lift him up...he struggled against them, causing them to trip and fall, with the man. I did not see them "throw" him from his chair..I see them quite clearly..tripping..tripping because he resisted arrest. The one officer then yells out "let it go, drop it! let it go."

I've watched the video 3 times now, along with my husband and sent it to my mother, they all agree with me, I don't see any wrong actions here.



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by Nkinga
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I'm gonna have to be one of the odd balls here and state that I'm not seeing what any of you are seeing. Here is my take on the video: They stopped the guy in the wheelchair, (for what reason we obviously do not know) they went to arrest him...which to do so, they would both have to pick him up, obviously if he is in a wheel chair his legs do not work so well, I don't think it would take two officers to "throw" someone from their wheel chair. You can clearly see that an officer got on each side of the person to "help" lift him up...he struggled against them, causing them to trip and fall, with the man. I did not see them "throw" him from his chair..I see them quite clearly..tripping..tripping because he resisted arrest. The one officer then yells out "let it go, drop it! let it go."

I've watched the video 3 times now, along with my husband and sent it to my mother, they all agree with me, I don't see any wrong actions here.
100 agree,he resisted



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Klose

Originally posted by Qwenn

Originally posted by Klose
I think it's a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to jump on the cops in this case. This video only cuts in when the action takes place. We don't know what happened before or what the guy SAID. Yeh he's in a wheelchair, but if he threatened an officer and inferred he had a gun or other weapon, the officers are 100% justified to throw him to the pavement.

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Then if they thought he was armed, why did they not search him or the chair after they had slam-dunked him, because they KNEW he was no threat to them. They do these sort of things because people like you turn a blind eye and say " well he must have done something wrong ".




With that said, the officer didn't need to to reap the guy's leg, that's a difficult breakfall to take even for a decent practitioner.


This is why he fell, as has been confirmed here, by someone who knows about takedown proceedures !



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 01:19 PM
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So if your dog pulls on his leash you're gonna' shoot him.
Nice.
No excuse for this type of violence.



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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Being in law enforcement, that looks pretty ridiculous. But it is a video taken out of context. The man in the chair reached down toward his waist band. Handicapped or not, he could still fire a gun. Safety first, right?

That said, this is truly far more aggressive than any officer needs to be. It only appeared worse, because the man split his forehead open. People bleed like crazy from forehead cuts.

The reasons for heightened physicality are two fold.

First: Everyone blames t.v., rap, all that jazz for the escalated criminal activity. Same can be said about all the "macho" cop shows on t.v. Especially in the States and Canada. Of course people can be influenced by what they are bombarded with. They are people. Being held to a higher standard does not mean they are not people. That is danger.

Secondly, go through this thread and count the amount of times violent actions were suggested to be inflicted on these cops, and in general in regards to protest against an overbearing fascist government. Which it technically isn't, by the way. People in general, are becoming far more difficult and violent to deal with.

Can't have society without rules. Can't have rules without some enforcement. Doesn't matter who the enforcers work for, certain elements of society would consider them oppressive and power driven etc. But they have to have some powers, to enforce the laws. The stupider people get, the harder it is to enforce laws.

In the end, YES, this was too much force. Regardless of the situation. Training is the issue. These were pooorly trained officers. Plain and simple.
edit on 23-5-2011 by Demoncreeper because: people.



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by Nkinga
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he struggled against them, causing them to trip and fall, with the man. I did not see them "throw" him from his chair..I see them quite clearly..tripping..tripping because he resisted arrest. The one officer then yells out "let it go, drop it! let it go."

I've watched the video 3 times now, along with my husband and sent it to my mother, they all agree with me, I don't see any wrong actions here.


As I said above, NOT a fall, but a professional technique to take someone down !



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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do they need more training to learn how to hurt him more???? this is just wrong period.



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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It just makes me sad how our government abuses power. There are so many cop videos of them doing this type of thing. It happened in my city like a year ago. They were "suspended" Ooooo... they should be fired, period



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by xstatic
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do they need more training to learn how to hurt him more???? this is just wrong period.


Need more training in communication skills.
and various other conflict resolution skills that do not end with blood or violence..



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 01:28 PM
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The ignorance speakes within the video for itself. SMH! But I guess some compassion for the tax paying citizens is not fair game...



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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You can twist the story however you want.You cant resist arrest,period,or this will be the result.The story should actually read"Man in wheelchair resisting arrest and causing a public nuisance has to be handcuffed and arrested for refusing to cooperate and wasting taxpayer money."



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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being that i am a big guy any time i have had to deal with the police its been in handcuffs in the back of the car then they interrogate.never since i was 15 have the police treated me like a person instead of a threat.



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by Demoncreeper
Being in law enforcement, that looks pretty ridiculous. But it is a video taken out of context. The man in the chair reached down toward his waist band. Handicapped or not, he could still fire a gun. Safety first, right?

That said, this is truly far more aggressive than any officer needs to be. It only appeared worse, because the man split his forehead open. People bleed like crazy from forehead cuts.


In the end, YES, this was too much force. Regardless of the situation. Training is the issue. These were pooorly trained officers. Plain and simple.
edit on 23-5-2011 by Demoncreeper because: people.


Yes if you land on your head after being thrown down, and flattened by two officers, you probably will bleed from it, presuming you dont die fom a fractured skull. I don't know if the rules are the same in america, but any head trauma must be phoned straight in for ambulance support, to escort for an X-ray. After they had smashed his head open, they ignored him, not even assesing him for first aid !



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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Real life is not the show reno 911,where you can do what you want and grab the cops gun and chase him.It is a great hilarious tv show.In real life,you only get one chance to comply.I see alot of people here think all cops should be like the reno 911 force



posted on May, 23 2011 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by brindle
You can twist the story however you want.You cant resist arrest,period,or this will be the result.The story should actually read"Man in wheelchair resisting arrest and causing a public nuisance has to be handcuffed and arrested for refusing to cooperate and wasting taxpayer money."


Well they should FULLY undrstand an eye for an eye for resisting the lords ways he set. And for not providing the lords influence in there works, what say they represent? Love compassion fairness or gang mentality. Apollos to you boys and gals in blue who try, this lance was not intended for you only for those too blind too see this was wrong. How would they act if GOD was watching. Oh yea they would raise their hand and realise oh no too many eyes and then spank the individual like the pgh, pa recent at the stadium guy. He was ready to give it too him but realized the crowd see his every move so he caught that in mid air smh. As long as these activities are supported the darkness energy will continue to drive towards.

Be well
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