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Originally posted by TedHodgson
I find this logic entirely idiotic considering Humans cause ALL the problems on the earth Compared to common nature that flows and winds through time without really causing any problem to anyone, I am not one of these animal activists that like to preach about animal rights etc i believe that nature should never have been disturbed by us morons in the first place to be honest but all i can see is that Humans really don't fit in at all in "decent society" of the earth, we seem to have no purpose anymore other than to satisfy and improve ourselves whilst at the same time trying desperately not to let humanity come unstuck as if where heading somewhere Important or is as if it really matters what we achieve, what we become.
In reality nature has become what it needs to become, it seems to be a fine balance that seems to work yet would be able to thrive if we didn't keep oppressing it
I say to think ourselves more intelligent than a pretty much perfect system is pretty darn "Human" If you ask me
Originally posted by TedHodgson
I find this logic entirely idiotic considering Humans cause ALL the problems on the earth Compared to common nature that flows and winds through time without really causing any problem to anyone, I am not one of these animal activists that like to preach about animal rights etc i believe that nature should never have been disturbed by us morons in the first place to be honest but all i can see is that Humans really don't fit in at all in "decent society" of the earth, we seem to have no purpose anymore other than to satisfy and improve ourselves whilst at the same time trying desperately not to let humanity come unstuck as if where heading somewhere Important or is as if it really matters what we achieve, what we become.
In reality nature has become what it needs to become, it seems to be a fine balance that seems to work yet would be able to thrive if we didn't keep oppressing it
I say to think ourselves more intelligent than a pretty much perfect system is pretty darn "Human" If you ask me
Originally posted by Mactire
Intelligence is a relative thing. Mankind bases its dominance on its accomplishments, but doesn't weigh the accomplishments on the scale of how these leaps and bounds in technology and lifestyle may affect the rest of the world?
For instance; we build an engine to drive a car. This car uses oil and pollutes the world. Are we better or worse than a deer that is still walking around the way nature intended?
Now take a look at the Octopus: They live relatively short lives, some as much as 5 years, most only live for months. In this short life they self-teach themselves to the average intelligence of a toddler. How smart would they be if they lived as long as humans?
I won't even get into the realm of plants, which have been discovered to actually have language.
With humans.... its all an ego thing.
S&F for waking up to the revelation that humans are just another animal.edit on 22-5-2011 by Mactire because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Haribon
i totally agree with you, i hate the feeling of being surrounded by 4 or more walls of concrete and then the city of concrete surrounding that. i would have preffered it if our civilisation continued to live with nature and in the forest instead of laying down roads and other belony to pave the way of what we live in today.
Originally posted by TedHodgson
reply to post by davesmart
He doesn't mean "Talking" in the human sense more like talking in the way a puddle of dog urine is like a Book to another dog
The way plants "Talk" is much more complicated than just opening ones mouth.
Originally posted by Mactire
reply to post by davesmart
Here are a few Links:
Trees Talk
Tree Warfare Against Pests
There are scores of books and papers on this subject. Some are very interesting, showing how the shapes of trees is directly connected with the kind of energy that surrounds them. Interesting stuff. Enjoy the knowledge.
Originally posted by TedHodgson
to common nature that flows and winds through time without really causing any problem to anyone
Originally posted by TedHodgson
we seem to have no purpose anymore other than to satisfy and improve ourselves
Originally posted by archasama
reply to post by TedHodgson
Earth isn't going to be here forever. Time will come when life on our planet wont be sustainable anymore. All plants, all animal, all fungus etc will die. We are the ones that actually have the capability to build Noah's Ark... Taking genetic material from Earth's plants, animals etc. to some other planet so that we would be able to protect life from destruction.
Are you saying that we should run around the world naked, live in trees/caves and die with all other life on Earth when the last days of Earth come?
Just saying... Dolphins can't build spaceships.
As for the whole humans will destroy Earth thing... No they wont. Maybe they will # up the planet so that we won't be able live here but after that Earth will heal itself.
As for those who say "bla bla blah... I hate my life living in a civilized world..." Go away! What's keeping you? There are plenty of uninhabited places where you'll be able to live in harmony with nature for the rest of your life.
Of course I agree that humans (more precisely - big companies) are destroying nature by polluting land, water - over exploiting nature's resources.
But that is as much your fault as it's theirs.
I see them drilling oil wells in sea. I see them cutting down trees.
But I don't see you damaging their equipment. Blowing their company's headquarters. I don't see you going into politics to control what they do and how they do their business.
But I see you sitting at PC and whining about it. Guess what? It doesn't really change a thing and the president of SHELL doesn't really give a f**k!